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CongQ
yeah, you from DLC land?
kiratsunami
what is this
CongQ
wadu
Noรฉ
he's not even on the server wtf
CongQ
atleast remove that 78888
lmfao
BingChilling
That should be bottom
Lucky Boy
You guys from US? Im just above you
BingChilling
No volume in weekend + monday dump
CongQ
yeah jimmy day
BingChilling
Jim carter stock is close
CongQ
good luck trying to link my wallet address
Lucky Boy
I havent open this since i start crypto
basedscarf
Knock knock open up
CongQ
sht u got me IRS
basedscarf
Til cayman is 2 blocks from nyse
CongQ
i literally live 2 blocks away from nasdaq hq bruh
Lucky Boy
Ow its closed
CongQ
that not inhour
CongQ
what US person, im cayman person
no tax as long as you dont withdraw :^)
famousfxck
No tax on crypto
Send it
Less taxes please
And say some bullish stuff about crypto
Lucky Boy
Let me open interactive brokers
famousfxck
Trump needs to president asap
CongQ
its not opened today, just AH
famousfxck
But it was up yesterday
Oh itโs going down in premarket
CongQ
US market
Lucky Boy
Where are you from its 2:42 here market still open until 3
CongQ
closed today, still opens tmrw, then its the weekend
famousfxck
Ohhh
CongQ
yeah
famousfxck
Oh wait that was yesterday
NASDAQ up 2%
So why is crypto acting like this lmfao
Bro stocks are up
CongQ
no today is holiday, tmrw still opens
on ramp availability doesnt mean sht, BTC wasn't easy to on ramp, now you got ATMs that my 90 y/o grammy can use all over the world, once its large enough, people will figure out about on ramp availability, FDUSD is easy to on ramp only because binance want that sweet return on YOUR capitalLucky Boy
Bnb
CongQ
on ramp availability doesnt mean sht, BTC wasn't easy to on ramp, now you got ATMs that my 90 y/o grammy can use all over the world, once its large enough, people will figure out about on ramp availability, FDUSD is easy to on ramp only because binance want that sweet return on YOUR capital
famousfxck
Tomorrow is holiday and then itโs weekend
If somebody ask me again how to hedge i will tell them make long in one exchange the short in another exchange this way you are 100% hedged hahaha
Usual
Lucky Boy
If somebody ask me again how to hedge i will tell them make long in one exchange the short in another exchange this way you are 100% hedged hahaha
fab1440
01/09/2025 at 15:37:42 ESTi on ramp thruogh FDusd but i cant on ramp thruogh USD++o
fab1440
01/09/2025 at 15:37:19 ESTFDUSD > USDo++
Lucky Boy
Bwahaha
Lucky Boy
How about diversification portfolio? So we can diversify our losses ๐คฃ
Lucky Boy
The power of compounding losses๐คฃ
Noรฉ
always remember that you loose less as the market dumps, that's the power of compounding!
CongQ
man is kinda scared to watch the stock exchange open up tmrw tbh, IV flying through the roof
Lucky Boy
I write message to him using chatgpt that i need a job 4 weeks later i got a job dont know if its just chances or the angels smiled on me
Noรฉ
famousfxck
Iโve always said, the next big black swan event would be Binance failure
famousfxck
Same ponzi
And continued with FDUSD
Bro they terminated BUSD
yns94
I swear
famousfxck
Nobody holds or trades FDUSD
CongQ
mfs tryin to get that sweet tbill returns and force ppl to use FDUSD to farm for airdrops
ELKA2ED
Till they milk out the most of people to sell their spots
Noรฉ
calling him rn
famousfxck
Bro 5th MOST volume in the entire crypto is insane
Lucky Boy
@Noรฉ you gotta write to larry fink his a reasonable man.
CongQ
cough binance cough
famousfxck
But TVL is 1.5B$???
Please tell me how FDUSD has the 5th most volume in the entire crypto space
That's the point, the recent mega sell 2 days ago also spreading of rumors about (silk road BTC) and this bullshits, only because when he is in office he wants to buy a lot of (crypto reserve)..don't you think?yns94
Possible, but how long will they wait before buying big amount?
CongQ
people buy people sell, tale as old as the whale
famousfxck
And FDUSD is a whole scam
They didnโt get a 4B$ fine for nothing lmao
Everyone knows Binance is the real evil CEX in this space
flyingfish
even black rock ? ๐ถ
Noรฉ
retardio traders
CongQ
gigachad strat
CongQ
that way you can keep being -50% when it goes back up
famousfxck
https://x.com/runnerxbt/status/1877412154330001469?s=46
Binance dumping so much that its CVD is literally out of the image of how much market selling these cucks are doing
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Twitter โข 01/09/2025 12:48:32 ESTELKA2ED
That's the point, the recent mega sell 2 days ago also spreading of rumors about (silk road BTC) and this bullshits, only because when he is in office he wants to buy a lot of (crypto reserve)..don't you think?
Lucky Boy
Bwahahaha
Noรฉ
why hedge when you're -50% lmeow
CongQ
Lucky Boy
What marveloud balls of steel this guy has all naked no hedge nothing hahahs
CongQ
IV is going crazy in the options market
Noรฉ
why is that ser
famousfxck
True
Noรฉ
even tradfi is dumping
famousfxck
Yeah but itโs mainly coming from Binance tho
Noรฉ
there's no big mean entity
guys, the whole market is dumping
famousfxck
Binance is dumping everything, more than any other CEX rn
CongQ
what menstruations
famousfxck
Itโs definitely manipulation. Binance is dumping max
Noรฉ
That's statistically the same as winning the lottery tbh
famousfxck
?!
Need to be a chad first
Do you guys think this whole market dump is due to manipulation from (certain) government to allow them to buy at very low prices (by fearing people)?yns94
Idk if its manipulation because nobody is buying big amount
Noรฉ
I have bad news bro
famousfxck
Or some shi
Some Louis Vuitton heiress
Lucky Boy
Jesus christ man hahaha
Dont worry Im already thinking about which one I'm going to sleep under tonight, I hope you won't be thereNoรฉ
I'm not sharing my blanket btw
CongQ
W
famousfxck
Best investment ever
I need to find a rich girlfriend fr
ELKA2ED
Do you guys think this whole market dump is due to manipulation from (certain) government to allow them to buy at very low prices (by fearing people)?
famousfxck
W ๐ง
But the thing is, even if most of my money is stuck in Usual. I have 2 jobs so Iโll never go broke broke
Noรฉ
bro i'm literally homeless it'll be fun trying to find under which bridge i am
CongQ
(no financial advise) :^)
famousfxck
Lets get rekt
Noรฉ
bro wtf
famousfxck
But we move boiiii
ELKA2ED
I have a speculation
famousfxck
Overinvested by alottt
Okay not everything but like mostly
famousfxck
100% of my savings and all too lmfao
Noรฉ
financial advisors are sweating bullets reading this message
famousfxck
Either I get wealthy or back to poor
Like 100% of my portfolio
No cap, Iโm all in on Usual
Noรฉ
x)
and how the fuck you know I'm tall
CongQ
bro if usual sinks imma turn you in to the interpol to get that bounty
Noรฉ
LMFAO what does it have to do with the market 
famousfxck
We canโt compare to you
famousfxck
Bro youโre like 6ft5 tall in real life
Noรฉ
i feel u
CongQ
famousfxck
Look where itโs at now
And from 1.5$ to 0.2$
Ethena went during bearmarket from 3.6B$ TVL to 2.6B$ TVL
famousfxck
Wallahi literally this, either way Iโm gonna enjoy that revenue
CongQ
i have SL on a lotta positions but not usual
yns94
Yeah never sell when you lost like +50% of what youve put
famousfxck
Only to check it a few months later at 10X
CongQ
i aint going nowhere with usual anyway, if it sinks im going down with the ship๐ญ
ELKA2ED
Probably 0.05 happens everytime while 5$ only happens with memeshits XD
famousfxck
Iโve wasted CRAZY money by selling because price was going down
Wallahi 1 single rule
Been in this space since 2017
CongQ
yeah
famousfxck
Nothing makes sense
famousfxck
Crypto is so volatile this can go to 0.05$ and go up to 5$ in the same year
famousfxck
Rip
CongQ
it is
yeah good decision
famousfxck
Chart looks scary
famousfxck
Wallah might even delete all apps and visit in a few months ๐ญ
CongQ
i dont have the balls to keep USUAL in my watchlist no more
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CongQ
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famousfxck
Bro I just want it to become stable or bounce fr
famousfxck
Inshallah it will bounce here 89-90k
CongQ
same brotha
famousfxck
Was thinking about buying a car partially with the profit. But now Iโm downbad
yns94
Speak good about my baby, the only one who didnt take my money is btc
famousfxck
My wallet hurts
my balls hurt
CongQ
Inshallah
Noรฉ
nice shill hahaha
famousfxck
And bounce to 0.8-0.85$
we should be very near the bottom, max 0.60$
Btw if we have the same price action as ENA at launch
Noรฉ
found it
Noรฉ
who?
CongQ
Wtf thatโs cursed
Lucky Boy
And just to scoop it up later at the bottom just to add it to their etf portfolios. Nah thank you
Lucky Boy
Depends on the platform you use 30 bnb is more than enough collateral to create small mayhem. Its almost impossible to get exposed to delta since when it goes wayway up you can just exit with coin you own. Its like a covered call but in reverse.
if you use leverage it can be dangerous, you must rebalance and do both trades at the same time or you are exposed to deltaLucky Boy
Thats why we have quants to do this. Or you make one
Noรฉ
yep exactly
ravished
and when you sleep...
not to mention watching the funding rates
Its is easy to say delta neutral but it takes skill to execute. See everyone watches bruce lee films but not everyone can do kung furavished
if you use leverage it can be dangerous, you must rebalance and do both trades at the same time or you are exposed to delta
I think a lot of selling pressure even prior to the market sell off was from the deltra neutral trade where usual emissions where being sold off along with shorts on the token to offset the long stakingLucky Boy
Its is easy to say delta neutral but it takes skill to execute. See everyone watches bruce lee films but not everyone can do kung fu
The one with fee is primary market the 0 is secondary see the loading stats when you click it reroutes you where it finds most efficient
Investus
Ok thanks for info.. Good to know
Lucky Boy
Stake for 1 year thats the best or completely forget about and see it in 4 years
The one with fee is primary market the 0 is secondary see the loading stats when you click it reroutes you where it finds most efficient
Investus
Hmm meaning? Ok so different all the time. Sometimes 10% percent and sometimes 0%
Lucky Boy
That the secondary market
Investus
@Lucky Boy It's not always possible to see the unstaking fee in the usual dashboard. Sometimes it's 0 fee there.
unknown l
yes please
KubzThe14Th
i think i understand, thanks dude
@Noรฉ , would you agree that all these recent massive dumps could be rewards being sold and that they were that big because of the "1st 7days' and that due to the rolling window, size of dumps would reduce?ravished
I think a lot of selling pressure even prior to the market sell off was from the deltra neutral trade where usual emissions where being sold off along with shorts on the token to offset the long staking
Lucky Boy
A crash is when a bank goes to zero and delisted thats a crash
KubzThe14Th
they like the narrative that goes with 100k btc
Lucky Boy
This people are overeacting btc was just 90 a few weeks ago and they call it crash
Just wondering why do they charge 10% on their own platform but others are 0% fee. Wouldnโt it make users swap outside of their platform?Noรฉ
Unstaking has a 10% fee. This fee is redistributed to those who stay staking, and part of it is also burned to increase scarcity. Yes, if you swap (not unstake - swap), there's no fee since you exchange assets.
KubzThe14Th
yea that s a thing too, but does it make sense on its own too or not really?
Just wondering why do they charge 10% on their own platform but others are 0% fee. Wouldnโt it make users swap outside of their platform?Lucky Boy
@noe dont know ho to answer this
@Noรฉ , would you agree that all these recent massive dumps could be rewards being sold and that they were that big because of the "1st 7days' and that due to the rolling window, size of dumps would reduce?Noรฉ
No, the whole crypto market is dumping
phanes
Just wondering why do they charge 10% on their own platform but others are 0% fee. Wouldnโt it make users swap outside of their platform?
ravished
a $10 usual in the not to distant future is very reasonable
KubzThe14Th
(or i didnt understand the 7days reward thing
@Noรฉ , would you agree that all these recent massive dumps could be rewards being sold and that they were that big because of the "1st 7days' and that due to the rolling window, size of dumps would reduce?
ravished
I already aped in at the top so I am far from sensible, im still hear learning lessons from the market
basedscarf
dUSD0
Eth0
KubzThe14Th
craperino, say ho ti him for me then
why do you limit the future my guy... as high as it can go !!!
Noรฉ
calling warren buffet
yns94
I want money
its better
No make it 10$
yns94
Make it 1.6$ or i will come to you
Bro you gotta be relaxed to be successful in this business. Let me ask you one thing do you jerk off?Noรฉ
x)
the whole market is dying right now
just close the charts
bro
Investus
@Lucky Boy ahh I cee.. So its better to swap (0% fee) and not unstake 10% fee? ๐
Zao_Roto
01/09/2025 at 13:27:12 ESTWe all agree this will never go back to 1$ right?
Lucky Boy
Just back read man common
Investus
Which other platform?
I am so wanting to ape in RN but I'm waiting for Rev share to be live and USD0++ to lock alreadyLucky Boy
Even on platform sometimes it appear 0 fee its on secondary market
Investus
Are you sure?
Lucky Boy
My bet is the price will remain constant for a while going up and down as players switches positions and do shenanigans to eaxh other but in long term as supply narrows tortoise clutches and gain advantage
ravished
I am so wanting to ape in RN but I'm waiting for Rev share to be live and USD0++ to lock already
JazzySt
https://tenor.com/view/smile-turtle-hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii-gif-12999472
BingChilling
U earb 200% apy cant give back 10% ?
BingChilling
Nothing burger you can swap in uniswap/pendleswap
samkilam
cmon
samkilam
i need a near definite answer man
BingChilling
Gazillion dollar
samkilam
how aboutb that 10% cut ยฟ
Deicide
Might be getting a bit 
here Bois.
I tried promoting USUAL to a merchant I'm in the middle of an appeal with.
ravished
scroll up, read down
ravished
only if you like money
Lucky Boy
Thats a decent amount
kiratsunami
because youd 4.76% just the first month, but after that we will get more cause the revenue will get bigger
Mava (AI Support)
Staking 4000 USUAL can be beneficial if you are looking to earn rewards through the USUALx staking mechanism. By staking, you can earn a share of the staking rewards, which can increase over time. However, it's important to consider factors such as the current APY, any fees associated with staking and unstaking, and your own financial goals and risk tolerance. References: 1
Mava AI Betasamkilam
is it advisable to stake 4000 usual ?
kiratsunami
I'm wrong
ravished
yeah, I was just being conservitive
samkilam
is it advisable to stake 4000 usual ?
kiratsunami
tbh I'm wrong it's more
Lucky Boy
Yeah when everything seems to look fine here comes powell fuukong this up
still bullish for usual. If im getting around 55% on my money i really don't care that much about the token valuekiratsunami
76% in one year mate
ravished
the rev share is far from priced in
still bullish for usual. If im getting around 55% on my money i really don't care that much about the token value
BingChilling
Hard to become fed now lol. Even more cut yield still soar
kiratsunami
we can't ...
but like not now
ravished
or both
kiratsunami
I prefer the latter
BingChilling
Trump policy + tarrif = dollar strong
BingChilling
Thats what people thought but powell rate cut 2-3times and yield still up. People dont believe it anymore.
ravished
beautifuly designed
it should be a win win for usual, this rev share can't come soon enough
kiratsunami
good for class assets like crrypto
higher rate cuts is less revenue but more easy money which means there is more speculation and the FDV/TVL goes to higher multipleskiratsunami
yes, more rate cuts ==> weaker dollar ==> people will go to more risky assets ...
ravished
less revenue but higher multiples on the underlying revenue
kiratsunami
more rate cuts ==> less money
higher rate cuts is less revenue but more easy money which means there is more speculation and the FDV/TVL goes to higher multiples@Mava (AI Support) make it longer and indepth, explain why it can be bullish for usual if the rate goes down and why it is bullish if the rate goes upravished
@Mava (AI Support) make it longer and indepth, explain why it can be bullish for usual if the rate goes down and why it is bullish if the rate goes up
kiratsunami
higher rate cuts ==> more revenue
@Mava (AI Support) write me a twitter post on our discussion regarding the fed funds rate being bullish for usual regardless of the directionMava (AI Support)
๐ Exciting times for Usual! Whether the Fed funds rate goes up or down, our protocol remains bullish. Our dynamic alignment with interest rate fluctuations ensures fair distribution and sustainability for all participants. Stay tuned for more updates! #DeFi #UsualMoney #CryptoInnovation
Mava AI Betaravished
@Mava (AI Support) write me a twitter post on our discussion regarding the fed funds rate being bullish for usual regardless of the direction
beautiful
@Mava (AI Support) so if the fed funds rate goes up usual earns more revenue but if the fed funds rate goes down usual token might go up in FDV/TVL because of easy money?Mava (AI Support)
Yes, when the Federal Reserve adjusts interest rates, it impacts the underlying collateral interest rate of USD0. If the interest rates increase, the protocol earns more revenue, which can lead to more USUAL tokens being minted. Conversely, if interest rates decrease, the emission of USUAL tokens might increase in value relative to TVL due to the easier monetary conditions, potentially boosting its FDV/TVL.
Mava AI Betaravished
@Mava (AI Support) so if the fed funds rate goes up usual earns more revenue but if the fed funds rate goes down usual token might go up in FDV/TVL because of easy money?
@Mava (AI Support) what generally happens with speculative assets like crypto when the fed funds rate goes down?Mava (AI Support)
When the Federal Reserve lowers the fed funds rate, it generally leads to lower interest rates across the economy. This can make borrowing cheaper and saving less attractive, potentially increasing liquidity in the market. For speculative assets like cryptocurrencies, this increased liquidity can lead to higher demand as investors seek higher returns than those available from traditional savings. Consequently, the prices of speculative assets like crypto may rise as more investors are willing to take on risk in search of better returns.
Mava AI Betaravished
@Mava (AI Support) what generally happens with speculative assets like crypto when the fed funds rate goes down?
Alexanderz๐
Everyone take 0.6?
Mava (AI Support)
If the Federal Reserve (FED) funds rate goes down, it generally leads to lower interest rates on the underlying collateral for USD0. This can result in lower revenue for Usual, as the interest earned on the collateral decreases. Consequently, the amount of USUAL tokens minted would also adjust proportionally to maintain fairness in the protocol's distribution mechanism.
Mava AI Betaravished
if the fed funds rate goes down what does that do for usual revenue?
Mava (AI Support)
The Federal Reserve's interest rates can impact the value of the collateral backing Usual's stablecoin, USD0. When interest rates rise, the value of fixed-income securities, such as bonds, typically decreases. This affects Usual's collateral, which mainly consists of tokenized US bonds and money market funds. As a result, changes in the Fed funds rate can influence the revenue generated from these assets. Reference: 1
Mava AI Betaravished
@Mava (AI Support) how does the fed funds rate impact usual revenues?
the fewer fed rate cuts are designed to hurt trump. Regardless less rate cuts are negative for crypto but positive for treasury yields which are good for stakers!
ravished
I was wondering the same thing
Lucky Boy
Because fuuk them
correct, if you are supplying USD0++ and borrowing USDC the borrow rate on USDC is probably very high atmLucky Boy
You borrow from physical bank
kiratsunami
this remind me of the first days with Pendle, it felt like chinese ...
correct, if you are supplying USD0++ and borrowing USDC the borrow rate on USDC is probably very high atmkiratsunami
but why there is 2 values, one in Usual and one in nbrs
ravished
correct, if you are supplying USD0++ and borrowing USDC the borrow rate on USDC is probably very high atm
kiratsunami
in ROE ?
ravished
if you are looping and your borrow is higher than your supply you will be negative, you need to watch these things when looping
ravished
in your negative yield
kiratsunami
where do you see it ??????
famousfxck
Yeah
It canโt go down sub 0.045$ because it was the ICO price
kiratsunami
their token right
famousfxck
$TANGO
kiratsunami
what do you stake ?
famousfxck
Tbh I only use Contango for staking purposes only
kiratsunami
where do you see it ?
famousfxck
Best to ask those questions at Contango
famousfxck
Look at the funding rates bro lol
I'm not sure @Mava (AI Support) understood their own analogy. The hare is the USDO++ holder who claims and sells their USUAL rewards. The Tortoise is the USDO++ holder who claims and stakes their USUAL.ravished
USD0++ holders earn small pieces of the golden goose, Usualx holders own the golden goose
Lucky Boy
I mean if i have 1m loan and im earning from that more than the interest of the loan ill just make an ouroborus kinda like a snake eating its own tail
The nice thing is even the hare is helping the protocol because they are probably selling their USUAL for more USDO++ which increases long term protocol earnings.Lucky Boy
They are selling emission usual to pay loan. i mean i will use money that i dont have to pay for money i dont have
It really is a nice concept my only question is when tortoise will clutch in .1?
Cortina
The nice thing is even the hare is helping the protocol because they are probably selling their USUAL for more USDO++ which increases long term protocol earnings.
I'm not sure @Mava (AI Support) understood their own analogy. The hare is the USDO++ holder who claims and sells their USUAL rewards. The Tortoise is the USDO++ holder who claims and stakes their USUAL.Lucky Boy
Tortoise is usualx holders
I'm not sure @Mava (AI Support) understood their own analogy. The hare is the USDO++ holder who claims and sells their USUAL rewards. The Tortoise is the USDO++ holder who claims and stakes their USUAL.Mava (AI Support)
The analogy of the tortoise and the hare in Usual's context is used to illustrate different strategies for maximizing rewards. The hare represents those who seek immediate gains by claiming and selling their USUAL rewards quickly. In contrast, the tortoise symbolizes those who take a long-term approach by claiming and staking their USUAL, allowing rewards to compound over time. This strategy aligns with Usual's design to reward long-term holders more significantly.
Mava AI BetaCortina
I'm not sure @Mava (AI Support) understood their own analogy. The hare is the USDO++ holder who claims and sells their USUAL rewards. The Tortoise is the USDO++ holder who claims and stakes their USUAL.
Lucky Boy
"Feds fewer cuts" may affect bond rates j.powell got us by the balls
BingChilling
Btc 1h candle go to 140k.
ravished
its a clever idea
@Mava (AI Support) ok. If the hare is usd0 players and the tortoise is the usualx players. Can a player be on the same teams?ravished
either your principal is in USD0++ or in Usualx but your emissions are the opposite
Lucky Boy
@Noรฉ this game theory is cool nice concept i like it
ravished
we really need this USD0++ to be locked already, is risky otherwise
@Mava (AI Support) ok. If the hare is usd0 players and the tortoise is the usualx players. Can a player be on the same teams?Mava (AI Support)
Yes, a player can participate in both USD0 and USUALx. The Usual protocol allows users to engage with multiple products and strategies, benefiting from both short-term opportunities with USD0 and long-term value with USUALx.
Mava AI BetaLucky Boy
@Mava (AI Support) ok. If the hare is usd0 players and the tortoise is the usualx players. Can a player be on the same teams?
ravished
great questions
I need to change my avatar to a tortoise
Mava (AI Support)
Yes, in the context of Usual's game theory, the hare represents players who are eager to seize immediate opportunities and maximize short-term yield, which aligns with USD0 players. The tortoise, on the other hand, represents those who are patient and focused on sustainable, long-term value, which aligns with USUALx players.
Mava AI BetaMava (AI Support)
In Usual, game theory revolves around two key players: the tortoise and the hare. The tortoise represents a cautious and methodical approach, focusing on sustainable and long-term value. The hare, on the other hand, is a swift risk-taker, aiming for immediate opportunities and short-term yield. These players influence each other's outcomes, and the introduction of USUALx changes the dynamics by offering governance power and economic rights to stakers. The game theory explores decision-making for both the value-driven tortoise and the risk-demanding hare.
Mava AI BetaLucky Boy
@Mava (AI Support) what is game theory in usual?
someGuy112
ok
someGuy112
when i try to witdraw usual from binance it only lets me pay the fee with usual, why?
ravished
### Drivers of FDV/TVL Multiples in Bull Markets - Speculative Premium: Investors price in future growth and TVL increases that may not yet materialize. - Token Utility: Higher perceived utility (e.g., staking, governance, fee generation) leads to higher FDV multiples. - Market Narrative: Strong narratives around sectors (e.g., GameFi, Liquid Staking Derivatives) drive outsized valuations. - Token Emissions and Vesting Schedules: High FDVs can persist even with modest TVL if token supply is heavily locked or emissions are ongoing. ### Cautionary Notes - High FDV/TVL multiples are not always sustainable and often correct sharply in bear markets. - Liquidity mining incentives can temporarily inflate TVL without sustainable user retention. Understanding these dynamics helps distinguish between sustainable growth and speculative bubbles in the DeFi ecosystem.
In the crypto DeFi space during a bull market, FDV/TVL (Fully Diluted Valuation to Total Value Locked) multiples tend to expand significantly due to heightened speculative activity and optimism about future growth. Here's what you typically see: ### Bull Market FDV/TVL Multiples 1. Established Protocols: - Established blue-chip DeFi protocols (e.g., Aave, Uniswap) often trade at 2x to 5x FDV/TVL. - These protocols benefit from a "safety premium," as investors perceive them as lower risk and likely to maintain TVL through the cycle. 2. Emerging Protocols: - Newer or smaller protocols with innovative mechanisms or early-stage traction can trade at 10x to 20x FDV/TVL or higher. - These valuations are driven by speculation and anticipation of rapid TVL growth, often ahead of actual adoption. 3. High-Speculation Protocols: - Meme coins or protocols in trending niches (e.g., liquid staking, perpetual DEXs) can see 20x to 50x FDV/TVL during peak euphoria. - These are typically unsustainable and represent the extreme end of market exuberance. 4. Layer 1 and Layer 2 Tokens: - Layer 1 and 2 networks sometimes have FDV multiples that dwarf TVL, with FDV/TVL ratios exceeding 50x or more, as they're valued more on ecosystem potential than immediate DeFi TVL.
someGuy112
chepest way to move usual from binnace to usual dap?
would it be possible at some point to stake usualx and usd0 on binance or any other exange?Mava (AI Support)
Currently, USUAL cannot be staked on Binance directly; it must be done through the Usual dApp. There is no information available about future plans to enable staking of USUALx or USD0 on Binance or other exchanges.
Mava AI BetasomeGuy112
would it be possible at some point to stake usualx and usd0 on binance or any other exange?
Mava (AI Support)
USD0 tokens are initially available on decentralized exchanges (DEXs) and are soon to be listed on centralized exchanges (CEXs). While specific exchanges like Coinbase or Binance are not mentioned, the plan is to expand USD0's availability on major platforms. Reference: 1
Mava AI Beta
JohnCarraway
Will usd0 be used on major exchanges like coinbase , Binance in future ?
interected
he will be taking a loan to buy USUAL in the value of 140k.
RPP
the $ he lost
ravished
does anyone know what this guy is talking about? "Tonight 140k"?
I don't know, I don't know enough about hashnote or USYC, all I know is it is an onchain overnight repo and Tbills, what i am saying is if that connection was not full proof in some way that would be the riskravished
I don't know, I don't know enough about hashnote or USYC, all I know is it is an onchain overnight repo and Tbills, what i am saying is if that connection was not full proof in some way that would be the risk
if there was a risk with hashnote USYC contracts not being redeemed for their underlying collateralNoรฉ
because of redeem capacity or something else?
ravished
if there was a risk with hashnote USYC contracts not being redeemed for their underlying collateral
Noรฉ
you guys saw it a week ago
because we can redeem the full supply in less than an hour if we need to tbh
Noรฉ
mmmh it what sense
if there was some issue with USYC as far as I can tell
the only risk would be hashnotes redemptions
looks like it may have already been tried
Noรฉ
attacking the peg wouldn't work
@ravished not really tbh
Mava (AI Support)
Usual is designed to be a decentralized stablecoin protocol, ensuring that control is decentralized and not influenced by centralized entities like Tether. The protocol is governed by the holders of the Usual governance token, which includes decision-making over risk policies, collateral, and liquidity strategies. This decentralized control ensures that external entities like Tether cannot directly influence the protocol. Reference: 1
Mava AI Betaravished
is there anyway tether can do anything to the protocol?
@Mava (AI Support) take on the persona of a bad actor and a competitor to Usual, how would you attack the protocol to remove it as a threat?ravished
@Mava (AI Support) take on the persona of a bad actor and a competitor to Usual, how would you attack the protocol to remove it as a threat?
interected
USUAL currently is top 5 tokens which will reward daily with unreal %
with USUALX project just started it might go to 10 usd by 1st feb if BTC goes to 200k.
kiratsunami
or 10USD
interected
its gamble, you sell to buy later but in the end you might not get back and cry.
or 1.6 usd.
MorningPhoenix
I think will go back to 0.6 again
kiratsunami
like doc and stuff
But if you like passive income, Contango always gives 50-150%+ APR paid out in stablecoins ETH and other assetskiratsunami
bro where I find stuff about contango ...
yns94
I love you gunner
Mava (AI Support)
Para adquirir USUALx, primero necesitas comprar USUAL en intercambios descentralizados (DEX) o centralizados (CEX). Luego, puedes convertir tus USUAL a USUALx a travรฉs de la plataforma de Usual.
Mava AI Beta
laurozeki
Como compro usualx?
Usualx now or never 
interected
outperforming several coins as of now.
famousfxck
Contango is a DeFi platform dummy, not a competitor of ours
Lucky Boy
Loools
famousfxck
Lmao just being honest ๐
Gunner funk
Ban this guy
famousfxck
Price canโt go sub 0.0.45$ because this was the ICO price
But if you like passive income, Contango always gives 50-150%+ APR paid out in stablecoins ETH and other assets
Btw not a shill
Real Ownership
The USUAL token gives you the power to control the protocolโs treasury, fueled by 100% of its revenue.
how i can handle such POWER?KENOBI
Real Ownership The USUAL token gives you the power to control the protocolโs treasury, fueled by 100% of its revenue. how i can handle such POWER?
K
K
Told u guys
famousfxck
Could go lower on Monday though
Watch this bounce
Tomorrow is holiday plus weekend
97k incoming
Okay that was the bottom gg
BingChilling
yes basically rugged by US GOV
Depend on btc 6b are they dump or not.
People afraid bid btc right now.
Afraid getting dump by us
chermiw_
even alt coin is not coming yet ๐ฆ btc will dump again
K
To the moon
BingChilling
Depend on btc 6b are they dump or not. People afraid bid btc right now. Afraid getting dump by us
chermiw_
what's the price predication of your guys end of q1 ?
KENOBI
bought an appartments for 70k now it is problematic to sold it for at least 50
KENOBI
I'm staying in Ukraine. average people in my city need around 500 usd to survive but average salary is 300 ๐ our stat paints another picture. Wanna went to europe maybe Spain or Portugal
famousfxck
And rates are variable so it goes up and down
Need atleast 5kโฌ net per month to have a great life
famousfxck
Lmfao nah, Europe is expensive
famousfxck
Not alot tbh, 50k+ USUALx
KENOBI
week before NY i got 30% more)))
KENOBI
but you can just stake tether on binanse and don't work at all
famousfxck
Max bid inshallah ๐ซก HODL and max stake, everyone will get rich
I also earn 15-20 per hour ๐๐
famousfxck
Bro I have 2 jobs
KENOBI
when i do work i earn 15 per hour, probably you doesn't work at all at this point))
famousfxck
I love being poor
Im losing like 10K per hour
i'm losing around 10 dollars per hour and Staking give me back around 1 dollar cash back - seems it is not profitable))famousfxck
Damn 10$ per hour ๐ญ
BingChilling
Inevitable + usual have yield
KENOBI
i see all the crypto is going down? we already became sticky to the bitcoin?
staking is a long terme move to accumulate more usual
why would you look at the price every hour ? ๐ญKENOBI
to cry more
RPP
be patient
i'm losing around 10 dollars per hour and Staking give me back around 1 dollar cash back - seems it is not profitable))Zak
staking is a long terme move to accumulate more usual why would you look at the price every hour ? ๐ญ
KENOBI
i'm losing around 10 dollars per hour and Staking give me back around 1 dollar cash back - seems it is not profitable))
SatoshiXXX
You are my dawggg
BingChilling
welome to crypto
samkilam
omg its going down like crazy
RPP
Go up at 0,5 ?
MedizN
All in
Cowboy James
So true, lol.
Lucky Boy
In .1 1k is 10k coins
JazzySt
https://tenor.com/view/hodl-cyrpto-shib-shiba-inu-shiba-inu-coin-gif-23688153
JazzySt
lol
You bought high sold low??
i boguht
ravished
Gov's always have some FUD in the barrel to take BTC from paper hands
JazzySt
Then I can buy a big bag
Hopefully when my account is working again lol
Lucky Boy
Might go below pre market
JazzySt
You were right! lol I got my cheap buy order lol
Lucky Boy
K.
Camel
just raw dog everything in a new token and hope for the best
we don't do that here
Camel
hedge? like risk management? pfffft
didn't stable anything
Lucky Boy
Did you guys hedge? Damn look at all this cheap coins
Camel
I do hope the market recovers and this is just a temporary lull. I was properly caught with my pants down in this collapse
Deicide
Lucky Boy
Look at all this cheap coins
Deicide
Same story as you. Stumbled into what I thought was a short. Now I'm here waiting for dips.
Yeah you're right. This one's on me... I was literally the exit liquidity lol. Bought the top. Going to make myself comfy on this bagholder community, clearly going to be here a while 
Yeah you're right. This one's on me... I was literally the exit liquidity lol. Bought the top. Going to make myself comfy on this bagholder community, clearly going to be here a while BingChilling
yeah atleast if you stake your breakeven is price is lower based on time. meme you cannot do that maybe meme not funny anymore and cannot go the way back to the price it used to. that's why defi is safe option
nah if you bought premarket 0.2 to 1.6 also perform better.
you just have biased because u buy top.
if you buy top same fate if u buy meme topCamel
Yeah you're right. This one's on me... I was literally the exit liquidity lol. Bought the top. Going to make myself comfy on this bagholder community, clearly going to be here a while
They did perform waaaay better on the upside though. USUAL has been very painful because it never properly pumped but dumped just as hardBingChilling
nah if you bought premarket 0.2 to 1.6 also perform better. you just have biased because u buy top. if you buy top same fate if u buy meme top
Camel
They did perform waaaay better on the upside though. USUAL has been very painful because it never properly pumped but dumped just as hard
I mean not really...at least not yet. Will start getting ~30% or so from Feb 1 so that's nice. The USUALx staking yield is just pure inflation so it isn't really 'yield'. It's just to prevent myself from getting mega dilutedBingChilling
u still got more token your break even price is lower. that people buy meme they have to break even with exact price they bought
Camel
I mean not really...at least not yet. Will start getting ~30% or so from Feb 1 so that's nice. The USUALx staking yield is just pure inflation so it isn't really 'yield'. It's just to prevent myself from getting mega diluted
not a trader, I am a holder that enjoys losing money as you could probably tell (I bought a giant stack of USUAL at 1.03)BingChilling
atleast u got yield. people buying meme/ai_agent got 0% yield and suffer same downturn
Camel
not a trader, I am a holder that enjoys losing money as you could probably tell (I bought a giant stack of USUAL at 1.03)
BingChilling
stock tomorrow holiday and weekend low volume. just get back in monday.
Camel
this is going sub 50 aint it
0 signs of relief
in freefall
Gunner funk
Liquidity
BingChilling
that's still speculate aspect. german market sell
Unless Saylor max bids
6B$ is crazy money lmfao
stuck 6B btc uncertainty form silk road.
unless trump said he want to keep it.
it can be market sell like german in 1 week before trump go to office.
Bercianos
Scary
BingChilling
stuck 6B btc uncertainty form silk road. unless trump said he want to keep it. it can be market sell like german in 1 week before trump go to office.
Bercianos
What do you think, market start to grow or will be stucked for some time ?
basedscarf
Liquid deposit token (like usd0)
rAiiNbOwZz/Mike
Iโll buy around 0.60
Myguy
Also nice steady teddy
Myguy
What is that? Ldt
basedscarf
Possibly eth0++ and btc0++ as well
basedscarf
Ldt for usual money
Myguy
What are eth0 and btc0?
BingChilling
could be worse if you hold AI agent
Thim
Usual in 7days -33% ๐ซ
Rage4lyf00
Gotta accept that we are in freefall xD But im not selling yet Zero or hero
Deicide
yns94
Bro think we are holding 100 usual
ยซ Start selling ยป๐ค๐ค๐ค
LavaLittleBird - Chasing
01/09/2025 at 05:39:37 ESTThe token seem no bottom line. This might hurt a lot of holder feeling. Might be the time to start selling T^T
basedscarf
Bro what ๐
famousfxck
https://tenor.com/view/risitas-juan-joya-risitas-rofl-risitias-ristas-gif-25276057
MorningPhoenix
Would t this market blood bath be because of the new comers and the recent increase of new crypto enthusiasts that donโt know how to manage dips and corrections ?
Zugor
Rather than making fun, I think we should consider the danger of those false news on Binance square. Some ppl taking it seriously!
ananasbrb
or are there still sellers?
have we hit the bottom good sers?
JazzySt
lol
JoeJoe
Even Hollywood couldn't have imagined the plot would take such a turn
BingChilling
https://tenor.com/view/jail-right-to-jail-right-away-parks-and-recreation-parks-and-rec-gif-16177531
maybach_btc
lmao, what's happened there
JoeJoe
Run๏ผ๏ผ๏ผ๐คฃ
lmfao indeed
Noรฉ
the storm has to stop
Yup, you got the point, it's true that the market is bleeding, the downside is roughly the same with others alts. Let's see things after thatNoรฉ
wise words ser
maybach_btc
Yup, you got the point, it's true that the market is bleeding, the downside is roughly the same with others alts. Let's see things after that
CongQ
market is in reaction mode
BingChilling
bro act they only hold usual token lmao
The Southerner
It is unbelievable nearly all the new coins have the same downtrend path.
I am looking to other cryptocurrency it has nearly the same downtrend path, not only usual, what is going on!!!!Noรฉ
TradFi dumping, BTC dumping, so all cryptos just dump a lot because crypto is a risk-on asset
The Southerner
I am looking to other cryptocurrency it has nearly the same downtrend path, not only usual, what is going on!!!!
Noรฉ
that's crazy
people talking about emission and stuff while the whole market is just bleeding
Noรฉ
wtf
just look at the others crypto
I am truly bullish on USUAL, but the current mechanism is creating a lot of selling pressure for USUAL. Let's try to put ourselves in the shoes of a big whale and consider it, and we will understandNoรฉ
mate
BingChilling
then ? usual is fix supply with 4B and deflationary ? how is that not better comparision ? TAO use btc model and they suffer 7200 tao daily emission too ?
BornSlippy
Holding btc since mid 2015. Know quite well how it works mate ๐
Lol
CongQ
\
Btc has a fixed supply and is deflationary. Usual issues new usual everyday. Not comparable at allCongQ
wait till bro finds out ETH has infinite supply
BingChilling
Yes lmaoo funny guy. The only saviour of btc is michael saylor. He leverage buy btc like crazy when miner capitulate.
CongQ
and eth has infinite supply, omfg sell ๐ฑ
BRUH coming in crypto don't even know how BTC works
Btc has a fixed supply and is deflationary. Usual issues new usual everyday. Not comparable at allBingChilling
Usual is fixed suplly and deflationary. Are u illiterate bro? Eth/sol/pendle has unlimited supply. Lmao u know nothing U not even there when miner dumping btc every day.
Proportion
There is no bottom I love you
Anyone know the 6 month vesting schedules of whales ?. Are they unlocking linear weekly or monthly ?Mava (AI Support)
The vesting schedule for whales is linear. This means that the tokens are unlocked gradually over the vesting period. However, the specific frequency of unlocking (weekly or monthly) is not detailed in the available documentation.
Mava AI Betamaybach_btc
Anyone know the 6 month vesting schedules of whales ?. Are they unlocking linear weekly or monthly ?
BornSlippy
Btc has a fixed supply and is deflationary. Usual issues new usual everyday. Not comparable at all
Gm. Holy moly thatโs a great descent on usualX ๐๐ปโโ๏ธ
SatoshiXXX
Btc supply kept on increasing and they did not have any yield
Btc holder in 2007 is even in worse situation, they did not have any yield
SatoshiXXX
No actually btc is a good comparison
SatoshiXXX
Enlighten me
BingChilling
Yes it take 10 years for btc have 19m/21m supply ratio
billofine
01/09/2025 at 02:42:23 ESTThereโs someone constantly sending a lot of usual to Binance. Is there a way of checking his positions etc. canโt seem to find it
Ingham
In 4 years usual will be a beast
Sure fee switch can.
The only matter that can reduce selling preesure is time.
Lindy effect.
Besife max supply about 4 year.
U just go thru 1 bear cycle and wait next bitcoin halvingIngham
Exactly people just need to think longterm
JazzySt
lol
My order went through at the low
BingChilling
Why not lol every early coin cycle will face same thing lol. Do you think people buy and hold bitcoin early day? Per mine u got 50btc? Now u get satoshi
JazzySt
Gm
maybach_btc
Yup, that's what I think it gonna create something bullish, ETH0, BTC0, some synthetic stables USD0 with ETH, BTC Delta Neutral something
maybach_btc
C'mon, don't compare it with BTC, bro.
I am truly bullish on USUAL, but the current mechanism is creating a lot of selling pressure for USUAL. Let's try to put ourselves in the shoes of a big whale and consider it, and we will understandBingChilling
Btc old day also have alot of selling pressure. Peolle buying pizza with btc.
I am truly bullish on USUAL, but the current mechanism is creating a lot of selling pressure for USUAL. Let's try to put ourselves in the shoes of a big whale and consider it, and we will understandBingChilling
Blud this project not even 1 month live. What u expect? None of pendle pool is maturity yet.
I am truly bullish on USUAL, but the current mechanism is creating a lot of selling pressure for USUAL. Let's try to put ourselves in the shoes of a big whale and consider it, and we will understand
famousfxck
Stablecoins is almost 2X bigger than whole DeFi
ETH0 BTC0
CeFi listings USD0 pairings
famousfxck
0.028$ per USUALx per month
Deicide
What would happen if someone put up a 100 m right now?
famousfxck
I have calculated how much we would earn
BingChilling
No its a meme lol. 0.2 is premarket bottom. I will oprn 1000x leveragr if we go there
It depends on your investment strategy. Hopefully, there will be a new mechanism to boost the flywheel mechanism or reduce the current selling pressureBingChilling
Sure fee switch can. The only matter that can reduce selling preesure is time. Lindy effect. Besife max supply about 4 year. U just go thru 1 bear cycle and wait next bitcoin halving
At 0.9 recover, the rally to 2.
Parkrio
I want to cut my finger
maybach_btc
Are u calculating on the current USUALx statked or 50%
Parkrio
Is not plan to list a new exchange? Like Coinbase
Yes if i want specualte i buy ai agent ai vaporware and meme.
I dont want speculate in defi.maybach_btc
For instance, I speculate on RWA sector before, I'm gonna buy ONDO or ENA.
Yes if i want specualte i buy ai agent ai vaporware and meme.
I dont want speculate in defi.maybach_btc
It depends on your investment strategy. Hopefully, there will be a new mechanism to boost the flywheel mechanism or reduce the current selling pressure
Parkrio
See you soon 5
Hello 6
Gunner funk
It is what it is
Adding yield to a token is double edged sword. You remove the speculative aspect and the price of the token totally depends on the APYmaybach_btc
I know, but it's truly ironic and sarcastic for a good project like USUAL, which brings benefits to token holders compared to other stables on the market today
Gunner funk
That's why memes can go to a billion where's a utility token can stay at 20 million
What I mean is that the good mechanism of USUAL creates daily selling pressure for USUAL. Compared to ENA or ONDO in terms of TVL, MC, and utility, USUAL is superior in every aspectIt can also be said that for ONDO, with its utility purely being governance, the buying demand is purely speculative.Gunner funk
Adding yield to a token is double edged sword. You remove the speculative aspect and the price of the token totally depends on the APY
It can also be said that for ONDO, with its utility purely being governance, the buying demand is purely speculative.BingChilling
Lets see january unlock for ondo
What I mean is that the good mechanism of USUAL creates daily selling pressure for USUAL. Compared to ENA or ONDO in terms of TVL, MC, and utility, USUAL is superior in every aspectBingChilling
Lol same u want daily selling. Or huge billions unlock like ondo/ena. In the end of the day emssion need to be unlock
Gunner funk
With 5 milion dollar per month
maybach_btc
It can also be said that for ONDO, with its utility purely being governance, the buying demand is purely speculative.
Gunner funk
Floor price is $0.2
maybach_btc
What I mean is that the good mechanism of USUAL creates daily selling pressure for USUAL. Compared to ENA or ONDO in terms of TVL, MC, and utility, USUAL is superior in every aspect
maybach_btc
C'mon, we all know that every altcoins drop significantly from the local peak Mar/Apr 24 to Aug 24.
peli
Thats it
Put them in a cold wallet, go have a cold pint, forget about them for an year
It's unfortunate that a project with such good tokenomics and token utility is under selling pressure from the flywheel mechanism. Compared to ENA and ONDO, the USUAL token is superior in every aspect of TVL and the attractiveness of MCmaybach_btc
It's unfortunate that a project with such good tokenomics and token utility is under selling pressure from the flywheel mechanism. Compared to ENA and ONDO, the USUAL token is superior in every aspect of TVL and the attractiveness of MC
maybach_btc
How many USUAL in circulating atm guys ?
CongQ
https://tenor.com/view/garage-tai-lopez-here-in-my-garage-lamborghini-just-bought-gif-20367476
Guru trading lesson WEN
Gunner funk
Everything is going as predicted. Once we hit $0.6 I will post my new target.
why not spot buy and short at the same time to hedge?
binance takes like 50% funding rate but the staking is over 200%Lucky Boy
Because its not stealthy and easy to get liquidated
Lucky Boy
Looks like everyone i watching in anticipation ๐คฃ๐คฃ
CongQ
Do it, i can probably reimburse your lost
XIUXI
how to continue this project?
BingChilling
Bruhhh
https://x.com/tier10k/status/1877175097456316819
\*DOJ CLEARED TO SELL $6\.5B IN SEIZED SILK ROAD BITCOIN: OFFICIAL
Twitter โข 01/08/2025 21:06:34 ESTZugor
Cmon bro, DO IT ๐
nyandoggo
why not spot buy and short at the same time to hedge? binance takes like 50% funding rate but the staking is over 200%
MorningPhoenix
Yeah ! For sure
Lucky Boy
Imagine how much this thing could cost at .04 meaning 40 dollars can give 1000 coins cheap bargain
Lucky Boy
Where not not yet in asian session boys. The chinese gonna wake up pissed after seing this price and start selling more
lofi
it's time to take another mortgage
Lucky Boy
Line of credit
Make a bank loan
fredchan17999
Wish I have more fiat to buy haha
LN123321
feel like pre market now lol
I will buy 1k usd usual at 0.5
MorningPhoenix
Haha you right
Do you want to be good at this business? let me ask you something how many times do you jerk off?
i0sm3
01/08/2025 at 22:27:47 ESTI am good. Iโm just seeing something incredibly wierd happening today I never did leveraging on Binance before, was using spot only and other exchanges for leveraging
MorningPhoenix
Hum not sure this time
Do you want to be good at this business? let me ask you something how many times do you jerk off?Usual
Lucky Boy
Asian session 3 hours from now they gonna wake up pissed and start selling
MorningPhoenix
Humโฆ Iโm really wondering if 0.7 was not the good bet today
Lucky Boy
And like magik you will see the market move to your order like my order at .6
MorningPhoenix
Hahahahahaa
MorningPhoenix
Just saying , lots of people make lots of money on Binance
Have you ever thought maybe you are not placing your order at the right time ?
i0sm3
01/08/2025 at 22:14:15 ESTMade 20 test incredible movements and always to the opposite way as soon as I confirm order
i0sm3
01/08/2025 at 22:12:55 ESTIt is what itโs but I can tell you Binance is fckn manipulating the price specially when you use leverage instantly goes the opposite of your short/long no matter is the price buy/sell pressure or whatever peak lowโฆ
Mava (AI Support)
Staking 3800 USUAL can be beneficial as it allows you to earn rewards over time. When you stake USUAL into USUALx, you receive a share of the staking rewards. There is no locking period, so you can stake for as long as you wish and unstake whenever you want. The benefits include earning additional USUAL tokens as rewards, which accumulate over time. References: 1,2
Mava AI Betasamkilam
is it advisable to stake around 3800 usual ? for how long and whats the benefit ?
Lucky Boy
Everything is dependent upon action of players like a zero sum game
Search about game theory and you will know
Their game theory. They mention it at lot of times in the docs
MorningPhoenix
Oh okay haha ๐คฃ And what happens at this point in your game theory ?
Lucky Boy
My reasoning was 50% of the cards aare still not layed out
Lucky Boy
I mean 50% of total supply or 2b sorry
MorningPhoenix
What do you mean by 50% of 2b ?
Lucky Boy
This is a fukin game man
Depends on players action its game theory
Lucky Boy
When 50% of 2b is staked. But i could be wrong
677
Cool, thanks for the infor
MorningPhoenix
How low ?
And sometimes it doesnโt even show the right numbers
Lucky Boy
Sometimes it appears also in the app when you get rerouted to that unstake fee is 0
Mava (AI Support)
Yes, when you route your order through a secondary market like Uniswap, you are essentially swapping rather than unstaking. This means there is no unstaking fee from the protocol. However, the secondary market might price in the unstaking fee in the conversion rate.
Mava AI Beta677
I heard somes said staked on uniswap can bypass unstake fees is that true?
Lucky Boy
I dont think this early. I feel lower.
MorningPhoenix
Which on you betting on lucky ?
Lucky Boy
Make it atleast 1500 to be worthwhile
677
I have about 600 units
Mava (AI Support)
Staking can be beneficial if you are looking for long-term rewards and are willing to commit your assets for a period of time. By staking, you can earn additional rewards and participate in governance decisions. However, it's important to consider the potential risks and fees associated with unstaking, such as the 10% fee when you decide to unstake. Evaluate your financial goals and risk tolerance before making a decision.
Mava AI Beta677
Should i stake or not?
Lucky Boy
I mean usualx players are getting punished now for how long
But my question is for how long when it gets to cents?
MorningPhoenix
How did you find that ๐คฃ
Haha oh my god you are so clever ! I was thinking the same thing today but not in the same analogy !
Lucky Boy
Its all a game in their docs game theory. I finally understand it there are two players teams and currently team1 is winning
MorningPhoenix
Haha so funny ๐คฃ๐คฃ
677
@Mava (AI Support) how can i convert my usual on binance to usualx
Mava (AI Support)
To stake on Uniswap, you typically need to provide liquidity to a liquidity pool. Here's a general guide: 1. Connect Wallet: Connect your Ethereum wallet to Uniswap. 2. Select Pool: Choose the liquidity pool you want to provide liquidity to. This usually involves selecting a pair of tokens. 3. Provide Liquidity: Deposit an equal value of both tokens in the pair into the pool. 4. Receive LP Tokens: After providing liquidity, you'll receive Liquidity Provider (LP) tokens representing your share in the pool. 5. Stake LP Tokens: If there's a staking option available, you can stake these LP tokens in a staking contract to earn additional rewards. Please note that staking options can vary depending on the specific pool or project. Always ensure you understand the risks involved in providing liquidity and staking.
Mava AI Beta677
@Mava (AI Support) how to staking on uniswap
Lucky Boy
Iiiii gooootchaaa
Thanks
Mava (AI Support)
Yes, in the context of Usual's game theory, the 'hare' represents players who are eager to seize immediate opportunities and maximize short-term yield, which aligns with USD0 players. On the other hand, the 'tortoise' represents players who focus on sustainable and long-term value, which aligns with USUALx players.
Mava AI BetaLucky Boy
@Mava (AI Support) is the hare usd0 players and the tortoise are usualx players?
Mava (AI Support)
In the game theory of Usual, the key players are the tortoise and the hare. The tortoise represents a cautious and methodical veteran, embodying patience and discipline, focusing on sustainable and long-term value. The hare, in contrast, is a swift and daring risk-taker, eager to seize immediate opportunities and maximize short-term yield. These two players influence each other's outcomes through their decisions.
Mava AI BetaLucky Boy
@Mava (AI Support) who are the players in the game theory of usual?
Mava (AI Support)
Game theory is a mathematical framework used for analyzing situations where players make decisions that are interdependent. This means the outcome for each participant depends on the choices of others. It is used to predict the optimal strategies in competitive situations where the outcome depends on the actions of all involved parties.
Mava AI BetaLucky Boy
@Mava (AI Support) what is game theory?
Mava (AI Support)
USD0 and USUAL are different tokens within the Usual protocol. USD0 is a stablecoin backed by real-world assets like U.S. Treasury bills, while USUAL is a governance token that represents ownership of the protocol's revenue. They serve different purposes within the ecosystem. References: 1,2
Mava AI BetaLucky Boy
@Mava (AI Support) are the tokens of player1 is usd0 and token of player2 usual?
Lucky Boy
@Mava (AI Support) what are tokens of the two players
Mava (AI Support)
Usual's game theory involves two key players: the tortoise and the hare. The tortoise represents a cautious and methodical approach, focusing on sustainable and long-term value. The hare, on the other hand, is a swift risk-taker, aiming for immediate opportunities and short-term yield. These players influence each other's outcomes. USUALx, the staked version of USUAL, plays a crucial role in this game theory by offering governance power and economic rights. Rewards for USUALx holders are auto-compounded, and they receive a portion of system fees and potential dividends from the DAO treasury. This setup encourages strategic decision-making between staking and holding, impacting the distribution of rewards.
Mava AI BetaLucky Boy
@Mava (AI Support) explain usuals game theory
Lucky Boy
Feels very synthetic to me like the one on the 7th
People will long at the middle and get trap for sure
MorningPhoenix
Hope it keeps the momentum
Oh yeah itโs going
MorningPhoenix
I mean itโs going well at the moment letโs take a deep breath for once lol
Lucky Boy
Then comes the asian session when everything seems working well
MorningPhoenix
Bought some more though
Yeah โฆ since my stuff is stacked I couldnโt do sh*t
๐คฃ
Lucky Boy
After getting the sheethole gapped
MorningPhoenix
Yup finally moving
Lucky Boy
Finally some green
MorningPhoenix
Something is brewing
Feels like something is about to go up
Lucky Boy
Yeah definetly something at this price point
Lucky Boy
I sold at 1.2 or 1.3 half of my bag got me a rav4 and something in stx maybe i got some of your money
CongQ
i'd rather not think about it atp๐คฃbut def lost more than 2x GT3RS the past few days
Lucky Boy
Whats your exposure in usual?
CongQ
i'd rather not think about it๐คฃ
yeah i hedged a lotta positions including ENA but not USUAL
Lucky Boy
How much exposure?
Just thinking about it makes me wanna vomit
Lucky Boy
It could faak you up big time man seriously
Lucky Boy
Its year to date bro you compare ytd
CongQ
man's naked as a polar bear
CongQ
nope
Parkrio
[Fact] Sp500 -2% Usual -60%
Lucky Boy
You did not hedge at .8?
Did you hedge?
CongQ
still not oversold on 1D, i dont think we're done tbh
im barely surviving without perps
Lucky Boy
5 hours it will continue to dump? How is the guy with 30k long he survive?
Lucky Boy
Feels and looks lile yesterday rebuy
CongQ
Whatโs something
Lucky Boy
Theres something here
Im not trusting this price
CongQ
Weโre in this together๐ญ
CongQ
Same brotha same ๐ญ
Lucky Boy
Are you ready bois looks like something in this price point
Deicide
Even clued up people. Sometimes waiting for return is unbearable experience. Need it now.
Hustle culture.
Lucky Boy
Why people in square are so stupid. Why not read a book instead watching youtube trading scam video
Lucky Boy
Thats why they delay div 1 day
Jan 29 feds interest rate may affect price for the coin
Lucky Boy
@Yi Long Max what you think brother peng?
famousfxck
Iโm down more than 1000X that amount fam ๐ญ
Lucky Boy
@Yi Long Max you think asian session is forgiving this time
yns94
Giving some hopiumโ
Eth in 2024
The real situation for most of people.
JACH
Hey.. i started with much less.
The Southerner
90% , not the average
yns94
215 i think
basedscarf
token go down, token go up tale as old as time
CongQ
Laughing my fricking ahh off
ASH
whats the apy now bros
cant open the dapp as im in the mountains
yns94
They will eat rock with this type of mistake
ASH
whats the apy now on usual
Yi Long Max
let people make mistakes
yns94
Putting a month salary in crypto when your are not ready to loose it, no thats crazy
JaharakaL
Base Salary here is 750 Euro ๐
Yi Long Max
somewhere in India its a month's salary..
JaharakaL
Not the same for every country ๐
yns94
You cant panic for 45 bucks its 5h works
JaharakaL
Why cant people sell their Usuals and leave quietly?
Yi Long Max
45 bucks is 45 bucks, but yeah.. unfortunately that's true ๐
Yi Long Max
your financial advice is priceless ๐
yns94
I think you have to sell your house and buy more usual maboi
Yi Long Max
Lucky Boy
K brother penh
But why would usuals "slider" move in relative to other projects. Again am just going off this picture i think i remember...Lucky Boy
Brother peng when you enter again?
marvak
But why would usuals "slider" move in relative to other projects. Again am just going off this picture i think i remember...
The Southerner
BTC for example and other RWA
Am pretty sure the slider on page for tvl was in completly different positions before this crash?The Southerner
TVL is not related 100% to the usual value, it is related to the RWA
marvak
Somewhwre in middle, now is completly left. Dont remember the values..
marvak
Am pretty sure the slider on page for tvl was in completly different positions before this crash?
The Southerner
@Noรฉ good afternoon brother, but sometimes we need to adjust our strategy and accept the positive comments, I am not talking about the financial and project management, because you know better than me 1000 times, but I think we need a strong community (not the official page of usual) spreading good news and hope for the USUAL holders, my account in the square is dedicated to that even it has a number of followers small but it has a great effect and views, the huge attack against the project makes us feel weak and personally I didn't accept it, if you have time please send me a DM and we can discuss more about it I am here to serve the project because it is my last chance and I will not accept the deception without combating.
Rage4lyf00
Fee switch is activated?
Bercianos
Very bad, we need someone to see the future ๐
Yi Long Max
Rage4lyf00
Give us bottom mannn
Yi Long Max
i don't know sir, i sold my crystal balls yesterday โบ๏ธ
Bercianos
Roll coaster down ? ๐
It looks like end of the fall, so it means that the flight to the moon expected on 7th of January were postponed to 9th January. Fasten your seatbelts pleaseYi Long Max
https://tenor.com/view/the-office-brian-baumgartner-laugh-giggle-gif-16881700
JaharakaL
Just close your internet bois and rest
awson
Usual locked is also part of tvl ?
Bercianos
It looks like end of the fall, so it means that the flight to the moon expected on 7th of January were postponed to 9th January. Fasten your seatbelts please
Noรฉ
It doesnโt
awson
I didn't realise tvl also gets affected by usual market price
Noรฉ
Okay buddy
Noรฉ
Lmfao
0xjmslnr
genius product when it goes up, and awful project when it's going down ๐
Noรฉ
Wasnโt targeted sir hahahaha
0xjmslnr
@Noรฉ not differently, but improving in some area or give news ideas ๐
Noรฉ
https://x.com/dcfgod/status/1877086849060979083?s=46&t=np2Ac2ferBPElmbNivK4qA
Hi Team, I know you spent years building a hyper successful product but I've been here nearly 3 weeks and think you should do everything differently
Twitter โข 01/08/2025 15:15:54 ESTLucky Boy
Its the same pattern as yesterday
CongQ
time to buy (no FA)
Lucky Boy
I am not trusting this price
Dave.race
Time to buy!!!
CongQ
Yeah itโs BRUTAL for sure
Lucky Boy
Thinking about it makes me want to vomit. faaking gross how can be people so cruel and brilliant at the same time
CongQ
Canโt blame em, itโs like a hot knife slicing through butter
yns94
Crazy how some people are selling at 0.69 ๐๐๐
Get in line , or we should go to the tram website and give our info , so they know where to send the moneyyns94
Ohh i need to post my secret word on twitter then, seems logik
Zugor
Sir
Lucky Boy
Yes brother peng. Asian session 7 hours
Yi Long Max
are we sinking maboi? ๐
JohnCarraway
Get in line , or we should go to the tram website and give our info , so they know where to send the money
yns94
When team gonna give us 1m$ plz?
JaharakaL
fix the price?
JaharakaL
Well something like that
JohnCarraway
Putting to stake and waiting till next halving ๐ค
JaharakaL
prolly 1+ years
CongQ
Project is probably fine, just donโt expect to see big gains in the near future๐ญ
Lucky Boy
Its so gross
Just thinking about the asian session tonight make me want to vomit
noname
The market is working only on speculation. So this is the first tool they use in order to keep the market up. But still, they will always be above the market with 1 move at least.
Yeah just manage your risk properly, I loaded up some more too, but in near term, no one has a fricking clue what would happenLucky Boy
I have at asian session its go time
CongQ
Stocks rebounded a little bit
Yeah just manage your risk properly, I loaded up some more too, but in near term, no one has a fricking clue what would happen
Klinta
Yeah ofc , loaded some more tokens now. ๐๐ค๐ผ
CongQ
No verdict, market is the market, try predicting it is what get most people rektโd
noname
When it will touch 0.8 you will regret not buying now and wait for it to go lower. Then at 0.9 again everybody will wait to get lower, but guess what ? It will go up. This will happen with the end of the month when everybody just waits the revenue and stake it back.
Klinta
Guys whatโs the verdict of our beloved usual token in a short time frame? ๐
the forced the sell off to acumulate more and stake at lower price. Now they will buy the remaining supply, increasing the sarcity and price, making all of us buy agaian at athLucky Boy
Exactly
noname
the forced the sell off to acumulate more and stake at lower price. Now they will buy the remaining supply, increasing the sarcity and price, making all of us buy agaian at ath
Lucky Boy
Yeah you guys better hedge also at green
Lucky Boy
Pre market only 40k is allowed per user only chinese has multiple accounts
JazzySt
Donโt hate me Iโm soo old I probably need reading glasses now
wolf-fighter
pre market was at 80 cents also 10 minutes are long over and it dropped
Lucky Boy
Probably at cents like what they did to mantra
JazzySt
Every now and then I read your name as lady boy ๐ญ๐คฃ๐ซฃ๐ซฃ๐ซฃ sorry hahaha
Lucky Boy
If this one gives voting rights i think big money wants to acquire more tokens
yns94
5min after listing it was at 0.66
yns94
What are you talking about
wolf-fighter
still below pre market prices
interected
10min til 0.71.
My favorite quotes from the debates โhe doesnโt even know what he saidโ - Trump 2024 about Biden blabberinginterected
he doesn't even remember what he said.
JazzySt
My favorite quotes from the debates โhe doesnโt even know what he saidโ - Trump 2024 about Biden blabbering
interected
from which video this made up? have link / title?
JazzySt
Unbelievable what he did to the US
interected
there will be no further down.
interected
on all pension.
Even Mr Biden is currently buying
Rage4lyf00
https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-9508832355999336631
interected
for newbies.
Rage4lyf00
lmao
JazzySt
My daughter did a trump face for her school photo last year ๐ญ๐คฃ
interected
charts...
JazzySt
https://tenor.com/view/winning-dance-trump-happy-gif-14497303
interected
USUAL Within hour 0.73
CongQ
Trump being sworn in will probably duck the market tbh
Congress got sworn in today
Yeah
Oh
Trump
CongQ
Wadu heck
What Jan 20
interected
cool bro.
Lucky Boy
Nah i buy more if it gets down im more comfortable holding digital capital
interected
not this correction bro, its now to late.
Lucky Boy
I have btc spot position 93.3
DraKryZ
Forget your usual, remember you got them in 5 years and you will be happy
Remember today, in 5 years
interected
remember date by 1st feb all you need to know.
Lucky Boy
Jan 20 it will pump you will see but i dont know about this coin
interected
USUALX.
next TP 1.6 USD by 1st feb.
we are ending bear market, soon up.
we might expect more dump before fee switch on, big money do want lower entry price for the dividends, 0.4 with 40% usd0 APY sounds like a good oneLucky Boy
Exactly waht im saying
lirrboroncruiser
we might expect more dump before fee switch on, big money do want lower entry price for the dividends, 0.4 with 40% usd0 APY sounds like a good one
Lucky Boy
@Yi Long Max brother peng still alive?
Lucky Boy
Doesnt matter chart dont work here only big moneys decision is
interected
it wont as chart shows bullish 1h onbtc
Lucky Boy
Dont worry it will get filled soon
interected
its going to 0 within hour please sell!!!!!!!!!!!!!
please guys sell now , i need to execute my new order fo 0.6740
BingChilling
Duality of men lmao
marvak
Am afraid its gonna take huge dump to filter it out again...
Its ridicilous. Solana and pump.fun completly corrupted whole market
JazzySt
Everyone seeing a massive dramatic green candle then an even bigger red one ๐คฃ
This! Its been out couple of months, its obviously long term, but the fud is crazy. People losing their minds cuz it went from 0.7 to 1.4 to 0.7 in a monthJazzySt
Earlier I was thinking of how funny it will be if someone was able to manipulate the price all the way up to $4 then back down to 0.8 ๐คฃ๐ like within minutes to see everyoneโs reaction hahaha
Thing is that soo much fudding over a project thatโs literally screaming long term and stablecoinmarvak
This! Its been out couple of months, its obviously long term, but the fud is crazy. People losing their minds cuz it went from 0.7 to 1.4 to 0.7 in a month
JazzySt
If the project continues on its trajectory then it will boooooom
marvak
We upppp REJOICE, the Suffering Is Over
JazzySt
This has its own stable coin already backed up by treasury
I said it soo many times even bitcoin that is a totally different project started out at $0 to 0.1 in 2009 and only doubled to 0.2 in 2010โฆ look at it now
BingChilling
1% is better than -x%
icarioth
Ppl donโt understand this project and blame usual because they are to lazy to read 10 pages ๐คฏ
JazzySt
And it hasnโt even been out a month
Thing is that soo much fudding over a project thatโs literally screaming long term and stablecoin
icarioth
Itโs a long term value project
If you think to make money in weeks with usual just leave now
JazzySt
And this is actually happening. The lower it goes the less people stick around who donโt understand the project
icarioth
In time it have a lot of possibilities to burn usual so we need time and will be more burned then new emission
interected
as warren said, the market is a scheme to transfer money from impatient to patient.
JazzySt
The thing is that the project needs to filter out idiots tbh
Too early for it to be at 11
interected
with all features in place and further development.
the price of USUAL is not correct, it currently moves with BTC due correction, the actual price of USUAL is 1 USD at minimum, once correction ends you will see price back.rAiiNbOwZz/Mike
that's pure optimism. Right now the chart looks like a pump n dump shitcoin. And the way they sold their news was honestly not good. If it's not intresting for new investors, they will not join.
interected
very correct ^ it should valued as of today around 11 usd.
interected
alot of newbies doesn't understand what means correction and thinks project is done, its the end, but its not , the usual will go to 100x within time, wait till correction ends.
interected
the price of USUAL is not correct, it currently moves with BTC due correction, the actual price of USUAL is 1 USD at minimum, once correction ends you will see price back.
rAiiNbOwZz/Mike
if it can't hold at 0.70 then it will drop to 0.60 as there are no proper supports
Lucky Boy
Same movement im really familiar with it
Lucky Boy
This reminds me of frc
rAiiNbOwZz/Mike
bulltrap will be incoming. this reminds me of summer 2021
JazzySt
If Iโm not mistaken
JazzySt
He meant heโs staking 1000 from his initial amount
interected
i do understand how it works, homeever exchange is not 1-1 therefore doesn't make it easy to join.
can't even recover properly compared to other coins which means not many are intrested in buyingLucky Boy
This is just rebuy i really don trust it
icarioth
No you donโt understand how it works 1usual itโs not 1 usualx
I thoght this project is bet against traditional finance. Maybe i misunderstood. I mean i get usd0 is directly linked to dollar and thats its purpose even, but maybe we can break away from that down the line, or was that never the planJazzySt
USD0 isnโt affected by this at all luckily
interected
Green candle for BTC on 1 hour chart has been confirmed as GREEN, so reversal is possible at 65% currently we might go up from now
rAiiNbOwZz/Mike
can't even recover properly compared to other coins which means not many are intrested in buying
Lucky Boy
I really dont trust this price point right now
marvak
I thoght this project is bet against traditional finance. Maybe i misunderstood. I mean i get usd0 is directly linked to dollar and thats its purpose even, but maybe we can break away from that down the line, or was that never the plan
rAiiNbOwZz/Mike
pretty confident that it will. btc will drop even more and usual will also.
interected
to much..
i takes around 1000 USUAL from 5400
Lucky Boy
Everyone is joyful again hahaha suddenly little that they know
interected
the only issue with USUALX is the fee for entering into project
DraKryZ
Sell, sell, sell, sell Go go go go
icarioth
Price will go up and down but you will need more usual to swap for 1 usualx in time
JaharakaL
it might never reach that number btw
interected
clown ^
JazzySt
No because everything looked like it glitched and it was followed by massive panic selling
interected
please sell i want buy at low price))
icarioth
I have average price around 0,5 and I didnโt sell at 1.6 if you understand this project you want to be here for long term
DraKryZ
Everyone, sell order now, give me all
Lucky Boy
When i want to pay my usual coins loan back and repay it cheap then make loan again and sell immediately
interected
We will skyrocket to the moon!
on 1st of February the price of the USUAL will be approximately 3 USD
Not just in the bond market: thereโs massive sociopolitical and economical factors affecting marketsmarvak
But wouldnt that be good for usual money?
Thim
What do you mean ? Swap all usual to usualx?
JazzySt
There was an over effing CRASH
interected
yes it is, open eyes, only few like xrp are less down almost all crypto are ~20% down
JazzySt
Dude please
Apparantly there is something bad brewing in bond market. But i dunno. I feel like in todays word fud has become so big, it affects old lady selling tomatoes almostJazzySt
Not just in the bond market: thereโs massive sociopolitical and economical factors affecting markets
Thim
No it's not all crypto are down 20% usual is very down ! :/
JaharakaL
Wanted to make small buys and the stake them but the gas fee will rekt me if i dont move them all ;D
marvak
Apparantly there is something bad brewing in bond market. But i dunno. I feel like in todays word fud has become so big, it affects old lady selling tomatoes almost
JazzySt
Yea
Mava (AI Support)
Gas fees on the Ethereum network are not dependent on the amount of cryptocurrency being transferred. Instead, they are determined by the complexity of the transaction and the current network congestion. Therefore, the gas fee can vary depending on these factors, not the amount of crypto involved.
Mava AI BetaJaharakaL
Depends the peak hours etc
The gas fee is always the same no matter the amount of Crypto right?
interected
its not USUAL down, its market down, BTC mainly, all coins -20% down
JazzySt
Because this is crypto and prices can be unpredictable. Yesterday there was an overall crash in stocks, forex and crypto
Mava (AI Support)
The price of $USUAL can be influenced by several factors, including lower revenue, governance adjustments, and a decline in the market price of $USUAL. These factors can lead to a decrease in APY and affect the overall market perception and value of the token.
Mava AI BetaThim
Hi, Why usual is so price down?
marvak
Whats a buy back? This type of rises usualy get me, as am thinking its time to moon
noname
This coin is created to work in this way. You simply need to stake for the next month and wait. They will crameble to buy the ath again