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๐ใusual-strategies
This channel is for discussing and sharing DeFi strategies related to Usual (USD0, USD0++ ...). Whether youโre exploring new approaches or refining existing ones, this is the place to exchange insights and ideas. Remember to keep discussions focused, respectful, and aligned with our community guidelines.Page 1 of 4
Dave.race
Official?
Andris
TVL will definitely skyrocket! And that's all that matters really
kiratsunami
I swear nothing will pump usual more than listing usd0 on a CEX
Sikakpa
any morp strategis?
for example, I deposit 10k usdc into vault, and when withdrawal, I got 10K USD0++. even its floor price goes up from 0.87 to 0.95, i still have a 5 percentage loss
BingChilling
that's for old usd0++ holder for new one should be good ?
Einzig
so the only enter asset is USD0++?
for example, I deposit 10k usdc into vault, and when withdrawal, I got 10K USD0++. even its floor price goes up from 0.87 to 0.95, i still have a 5 percentage loss
Noรฉ
You deposit USD0++
Einzig
for example, I deposit 10k usdc into vault, and when withdrawal, I got 10K USD0++. even its floor price goes up from 0.87 to 0.95, i still have a 5 percentage loss
and since the Floor rises over time, it's not likely that you'll withdraw at a lower price for USD0++ than when depositingNoรฉ
^
Einzig
i know the swap process is in primary market and no fees and validation. but what about exits? if the only way exits iUSD0++ is USD0++, we still need to re-peg it
Noรฉ
but that's not how most whales invest
unless you're really short term
and since the Floor rises over time, it's not likely that you'll withdraw at a lower price for USD0++ than when depositing
there's no unstability here
the problem is, as USD0++ price validates, it is not a safe choice to whales and even small users to deposit their stable coins into a unstable vaultNoรฉ
Vault is 1:1 USD0++ to sUSDe
the problem is, as USD0++ price validates, it is not a safe choice to whales and even small users to deposit their stable coins into a unstable vaultBingChilling
your opinion. i think iusd0++ can do well i'm curious what the negative about the iusd0++ ?
yes but you can enter with usde/susde lol that's the point.
beravault you can enter usdc too
so this vault u can enter with susde/usde exit usd0++Einzig
the problem is, as USD0++ price validates, it is not a safe choice to whales and even small users to deposit their stable coins into a unstable vault
but they will be swapped into USD0++ and the only exit asset will be USD0++. just like bera vault
unknown l
you won't be paying $1 for 1 usd0++ you'll be paying floor price no
BingChilling
isusd0++ with pendle pool u get ethena yield + usual yield + pendle yield you think this will not attract many people ? i'm the target audience lol
but they will be swapped into USD0++ and the only exit asset will be USD0++. just like bera vaultBingChilling
yes but you can enter with usde/susde lol that's the point. beravault you can enter usdc too so this vault u can enter with susde/usde exit usd0++
i'm pretty sure you can enter with usdc/susde/usde/usd0/usd0++ like beravault.
it's not gonan repeg to usd0++ anytime soon lol because team will launch better pool to incentivies 2nd market for arbtirage and swap feeEinzig
but they will be swapped into USD0++ and the only exit asset will be USD0++. just like bera vault
so u are talking about future. I am talking about now. at this moment, USD0 is worthless and the only way to increase TVL is USD0++. even iUSD0++ is also based on USD0++. so we must repeg USD0++ or there is no way to pump TVLit doesnt need to be cex already have usdc/usdt for that.
i can see in future there will be usd0/eth0 pair is they commit in the roadmap.Einzig
so u are talking about future. I am talking about now. at this moment, USD0 is worthless and the only way to increase TVL is USD0++. even iUSD0++ is also based on USD0++. so we must repeg USD0++ or there is no way to pump TVL
BingChilling
it doesnt need to be cex already have usdc/usdt for that. i can see in future there will be usd0/eth0 pair is they commit in the roadmap.
Mava (AI Support)
USD0 tokens are initially available on decentralized exchanges (DEXs) and are soon to be listed on centralized exchanges (CEXs). Currently, USD0 can be traded on DEXs, but specific trade pairs on main DEXs are not detailed in the documentation. Reference: 1
Mava AI BetaEinzig
which cex list USD0? any trade pair for USD0 at any main dex?
esco
USDT and USDC donโt give yield USD0 offers big yield opportunities through liquidity pools
This isnโt true. Minting USD0 does not require locking and has 1:1 peg because it is the stablecoin
USD0++ isnโt necessary to grow TVL, only USD0.Einzig
so now u have USD0 - no yield, no application, no cex listing
APR is not the only reason. Another is the floor price of USD0++ is set to 0.87 and now USD0++ still depeg. So there would be no more new TVL before it repegesco
This isnโt true. Minting USD0 does not require locking and has 1:1 peg because it is the stablecoin USD0++ isnโt necessary to grow TVL, only USD0.
so Noe in the twits says the same thing as you, right? Less tvl more early demepstions because they have to spend usual, ok... seem right but then if there is less tvl because there are more demeptions how is possible that usual dump since the tvl was 1.8b?
anyone can explain that?kiratsunami
therre is no coorelation between more redemption and price price is only in the hands of the market
so Noe in the twits says the same thing as you, right? Less tvl more early demepstions because they have to spend usual, ok... seem right but then if there is less tvl because there are more demeptions how is possible that usual dump since the tvl was 1.8b?
anyone can explain that?Dave.race
Speculation, it's way too complex for me to understand why price up or down
Einzig
haha, if u say so, u are right
yes they can do it
but they didn't, there is enough TVL for them to buy islands in the Bahamas and bring "hot chi k s and c o k e " yet they are working on creating new partnerships and producs
plus the team tokens are blocked till Novemberr25kiratsunami
yes they can do it but they didn't, there is enough TVL for them to buy islands in the Bahamas and bring "hot chi k s and c o k e " yet they are working on creating new partnerships and producs plus the team tokens are blocked till Novemberr25
APR is not the only reason. Another is the floor price of USD0++ is set to 0.87 and now USD0++ still depeg. So there would be no more new TVL before it repeg
Ekosone
Okay I see, hmmm. Will see the distribution of USUAL over the next few months
So yeah
USUALx and USUAL have the same properties in terms of rewards, except, USUAL doesn't get the Revenue Switch (USD0 rewards) and all rewards are cliffed for a year
So dropping floor price and implementing early redemption was in the best interest of Team amd early investo not protocol and community as a wholeNoรฉ
There's really nothing to see here - it's only around 2% and will decrease again with the normal emission. Simple example: high outflows, increased USUAL for USUALx and USUAL*, so a bit higher % of the circulating supply for those buckets, and, over time with the normal distribution, will be lower again.
APR is not the only reason. Another is the floor price of USD0++ is set to 0.87 and now USD0++ still depeg. So there would be no more new TVL before it repeg
Stan
There wonโt be any more USD0++ supply untill the repeg
Hold on aren't the Team and VC/early investors the holders of USUAL*?? That means that through early redemption team is increasing their share of USUAL and hence protocol revenueEkosone
So dropping floor price and implementing early redemption was in the best interest of Team amd early investo not protocol and community as a whole
Hold on aren't the Team and VC/early investors the holders of USUAL*?? That means that through early redemption team is increasing their share of USUAL and hence protocol revenue
Nanobro
yes. they can simply rug revenue. but stepping up the game for better income is more likely
APR is not the only reason. Another is the floor price of USD0++ is set to 0.87 and now USD0++ still depeg. So there would be no more new TVL before it repegNanobro
indeed
Ekosone
Hold on aren't the Team and VC/early investors the holders of USUAL*?? That means that through early redemption team is increasing their share of USUAL and hence protocol revenue
With USUAL price down to $0.4, USD0++ get ~20% apy.
That's quite ok but there are many favorable choices. So short term fund moved out.Einzig
APR is not the only reason. Another is the floor price of USD0++ is set to 0.87 and now USD0++ still depeg. So there would be no more new TVL before it repeg
so Noe in the twits says the same thing as you, right? Less tvl more early demepstions because they have to spend usual, ok... seem right but then if there is less tvl because there are more demeptions how is possible that usual dump since the tvl was 1.8b?
anyone can explain that?Nanobro
With USUAL price down to $0.4, USD0++ get ~20% apy. That's quite ok but there are many favorable choices. So short term fund moved out.
when someone reedems their UsualX
1/3 is burnt, thus increasing the value by creating scracity
1/3 is sent to UsualX holders increasing the UsualX APY
1/3 is sent to Usual*Nanobro
USUAL* is scooping big amount of USUAL
imanol
@Fact any news about that?
He just meant more revenues right away. Because early redemption needs to pay USUAL. 33% is burned and 67% is sent to USUALx (IIRC).imanol
so Noe in the twits says the same thing as you, right? Less tvl more early demepstions because they have to spend usual, ok... seem right but then if there is less tvl because there are more demeptions how is possible that usual dump since the tvl was 1.8b? anyone can explain that?
He will turn a blind eye to investors' concerns about the decline of TVL and pretend not to notice. Am i right?๐Dave.race
In the long run, it's still better for USUALx holders that the TVL of USD0 grows. And USD0++ is basically locked USD0 (unless they use floor price or early redemption).
Fact
He will turn a blind eye to investors' concerns about the decline of TVL and pretend not to notice. Am i right?๐
0.86 target set
ravished
Yes, mava is incorrect
Mava (AI Support)
The current structure of the unstaking fee is designed to reward long-term stakers and discourage frequent unstaking. The fee is set at 10% of the unstaked amount, and this approach helps maintain the stability and sustainability of the protocol. Adjusting the fee to a fixed period like 10 years would require a significant change in the protocol's design and governance.
Mava AI Beta
ricardo
It didn't start last week??
Hello, I haven't received the weekly reward, it was supposed to be yesterday
Profits
How much are you expecting ?
Gabee
Kraken has usual on futures
Luis Martoi Dnju
GM! Anyone know a vault to play USD0++ and Berachain combo that is NOT via Veda?
123123123
yes,i want to know that too
HanselR
@Noรฉ could you reply about this matter?
HanselR
@Fact As I told you I had same chat with @Noรฉ about TVL decreasing
ravished
@Mava (AI Support) what is the APR on USYC?
Fact
Hmm.....
I did that because I've never seen a response when I voiced my concerns about declining TVLs.
As you know, the decline in TVL is a serious indicator, and TVL is directly related to the importance of maintaining the Usual Project normally.Fact
I did that because I've never seen a response when I voiced my concerns about declining TVLs. As you know, the decline in TVL is a serious indicator, and TVL is directly related to the importance of maintaining the Usual Project normally.
ravished
@Mava (AI Support) what is the current yield earned on usyc to usual?
Mava (AI Support)
Early Redemption for USD0++ allows you to redeem your tokens at a 1:1 ratio with USD0. However, you will need to exchange an amount of $USUAL tokens, which can range from zero to up to six months of rewards, depending on weekly outflows and the time before maturity.
Mava AI Betaravished
@Mava (AI Support) how does early redemption work with usd0++?
Fact
Oops sorry i didn't know that,
HanselR
I had same discusiรณn with @Noรฉ
Fact
Nope ๐ซnoe never answered about tvl
ravished
Are they accurate? Early redemptions pay usual the equivalent of 220 days of USYC yield? I ran them the other day but I don't remembered the variables, it was after someone was having a conversation with you or Mava regarding early redemption fees. It could of been based on the price of usual or USD0++ at the time.
yep, I understand what u said. But for USAUL, TVL is all backed by RWA, which means all of the value is utilized to generate yield by holding bonds. So for USUAL, TVL is strong associated with revenue, we need more TVL to pay USUALx more revenuesravished
I think we all agree more TVL is better but it will happen as they launch new financial products, in the mean time we accelerate income through early redemptions
Noรฉ
nice calculations @ravished
are u serious? do u know where the revenue comes from? most of revenues is paid by TVL's profits. No TVL means no revenue broare u serious? do u know where the revenue comes from? most of revenues is paid by TVL's profits. No TVL means no revenue brounknown l
this is correct
Mava (AI Support)
Pendle PT (Principal Token) holders earn fixed yields given up by YT (Yield Token) users. However, PT holders do not receive $USUAL rewards. Once it matures, there might be an opportunity for a higher PT yield.
Mava AI Beta
anyone staked their usd0++ on Veda?
While I used to receive 20 Usual daily, I have now only received 30 Usual after 17 days of staking on veda..Mava (AI Support)
It seems like there might be an issue with the rewards you're receiving from staking USD0++ on Veda. Typically, when you deposit USD0++ on the Veda/Bera vault, you earn the USD0++ APY in $USUAL, which you need to claim directly on Veda. If the rewards are not as expected, it might be worth checking if there have been any changes in the reward structure or if there is an issue with the claiming process.
Mava AI Beta
NF
Hello! I have PT on Pendle USD0++, March maturnity. Does it have any additional rewards?
HektorX.Crypto
anyone staked their usd0++ on Veda? While I used to receive 20 Usual daily, I have now only received 30 Usual after 17 days of staking on veda..
yep, I understand what u said. But for USAUL, TVL is all backed by RWA, which means all of the value is utilized to generate yield by holding bonds. So for USUAL, TVL is strong associated with revenue, we need more TVL to pay USUALx more revenuesHanselR
80% agree!!!I think @Noรฉ can explain the point more better than me
I get your point, but itโs not entirely accurate to say that most revenue comes directly from TVL profits. TVL represents locked capital, but the actual revenue depends on how that capital is utilized. If the protocol isn't efficiently generating yield (e.g., through fees, interest, or other mechanisms), a high TVL alone wonโt guarantee significant revenue.
Also, while low TVL might limit earning potential, itโs the protocolโs design, fee structure, and market activity that determine how revenue is generated and sustained. So, no TVL means limited opportunity, but TVL itself isnโt revenueโitโs a means to an end.Einzig
yep, I understand what u said. But for USAUL, TVL is all backed by RWA, which means all of the value is utilized to generate yield by holding bonds. So for USUAL, TVL is strong associated with revenue, we need more TVL to pay USUALx more revenues
are u serious? do u know where the revenue comes from? most of revenues is paid by TVL's profits. No TVL means no revenue broHanselR
I get your point, but itโs not entirely accurate to say that most revenue comes directly from TVL profits. TVL represents locked capital, but the actual revenue depends on how that capital is utilized. If the protocol isn't efficiently generating yield (e.g., through fees, interest, or other mechanisms), a high TVL alone wonโt guarantee significant revenue. Also, while low TVL might limit earning potential, itโs the protocolโs design, fee structure, and market activity that determine how revenue is generated and sustained. So, no TVL means limited opportunity, but TVL itself isnโt revenueโitโs a means to an end.
1.TVL measures the assets locked in the protocol, but it doesnโt indicate direct profitability from those funds. Profits come from fees, interest, or other mechanisms, not simply from the locked volume.
2.A high TVL may require more resources to maintain liquidity, which can reduce the profit margin available for distribution.Einzig
are u serious? do u know where the revenue comes from? most of revenues is paid by TVL's profits. No TVL means no revenue bro
HanselR
1.TVL measures the assets locked in the protocol, but it doesnโt indicate direct profitability from those funds. Profits come from fees, interest, or other mechanisms, not simply from the locked volume. 2.A high TVL may require more resources to maintain liquidity, which can reduce the profit margin available for distribution.
Einzig
it is. talk is cheap. whatever we said here can not stop the declining of TVL and $USUAL
HanselR
it Is not correct
HanselR
with your USD0 rewards?
as long as the project is still around this price will be difficult to beat, buying usualx with staking rewards seams like a solid plan, our revenue can bring back the token price by buying the floorEinzig
TVL is dump faster than price. No TVL, no price, NO USUAL any moreโฆโฆ we need more TVL
Einzig
Now?
Usual
Sorry if this question has been asked again and again, what's the best route for my USD0 back to UsusalX? I tried UniSwap and the gas is 90% of the USD0 ...
hell0men
Cowswap will help with that
jayce
cรณ ai ngฦฐแปi viแปt แป ฤรขy khรดng
brain storming about what we can do with the rewards? swap to USD0-USUAL-USUALx???which are your ideas?ravished
at this point buying usual is what I will be doing with mine
Esmone
true. thanks
DV
its not worth to move it with the gas fee lol
Esmone
u guys cashing in the usd0 of this revenue fee or staking it right away?
HanselR
brain storming about what we can do with the rewards? swap to USD0-USUAL-USUALx???which are your ideas?
Pippo69
Usual app
Sorry if this question has been asked again and again, what's the best route for my USD0 back to UsusalX? I tried UniSwap and the gas is 90% of the USD0 ...
Sorry if this question has been asked again and again, what's the best route for my USD0 back to UsusalX? I tried UniSwap and the gas is 90% of the USD0 ...Sorry if this question has been asked again and again, what's the best route for my USD0 back to UsusalX? I tried UniSwap and the gas is 90% of the USD0 ...glennbech
Sorry if this question has been asked again and again, what's the best route for my USD0 back to UsusalX? I tried UniSwap and the gas is 90% of the USD0 ...
Mava (AI Support)
To check if you are eligible for rewards, you can view your rewards directly on your dApp dashboard. If you are holding USD0++, rewards are distributed at the end of each 24-hour cycle under 'Pending Rewards'. For USUALx, rewards reflect live when you try to unstake.
Mava AI Beta
sy4m
how do i see if im elegible for the rewards?
BingChilling
Its still today just wait twitter annoucement i guess
tuliobarreto
I was eligible but I didn't receive any rewards today
tuliobarreto
What time will rewards unlock today?
as long as the project is still around this price will be difficult to beat, buying usualx with staking rewards seams like a solid plan, our revenue can bring back the token price by buying the floorWhat will u do today with USD0 reward?
1๏ธโฃ Keep / Swap to another stable
Buy USUALx
Buy USD0++
ravished
good TA but until we break that treandline its still down
Essam
@aldelam Can we buy usualx with our bonus to avoid gas fees?
Hello admins, can you please help me to find out where i can know better about revenue sources? and also second question does the USUAL minting have the linear progression, or it comes with some schedule, or reacts on market price?Mava (AI Support)
Revenue for Usual comes from the protocol's Total Value Locked (TVL), as everything is backed by tokenized overnight repos (USYC). Regarding the minting of USUAL, it is not linear. The emission of USUAL is based on the protocol's revenue and TVL growth. As the TVL grows, less USUAL is minted, which increases the Earnings Per Token ratio and boosts USUAL's value. This means the minting is influenced by the protocol's revenue and not directly by market price. References: 1
Mava AI BetaHello admins, can you please help me to find out where i can know better about revenue sources? and also second question does the USUAL minting have the linear progression, or it comes with some schedule, or reacts on market price?Usual
KENOBI
Hello admins, can you please help me to find out where i can know better about revenue sources? and also second question does the USUAL minting have the linear progression, or it comes with some schedule, or reacts on market price?
What will u do today with USD0 reward?
1๏ธโฃ Keep / Swap to another stable
Buy USUALx
Buy USD0++
aldelam
Will mostly try to avoid insane gas fee ๐
theDealer14
cheers, this will definitely bring some momentum back to Usual
Mava (AI Support)
USD0 rewards for staking USUALx are distributed weekly, with the snapshot taken every Monday at UTC+0. If it has already passed Monday, the rewards should be distributed soon after the snapshot.
Mava AI BetatheDealer14
when will the USDO rewards for staking usualx be paid? it already past Monday at UTC+0
theDealer14
when will the rewards be paid?
BingChilling
yess
IsaiahWang
Is now a good time to buy and stake?
What will u do today with USD0 reward?
1๏ธโฃ Keep / Swap to another stable
Buy USUALx
Buy USD0++BingChilling
i might buy usualx
hell0men
What will u do today with USD0 reward?
1๏ธโฃ Keep / Swap to another stable
Buy USUALx
Buy USD0++
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yes if we break the trend I don't expect a pump in a few minutes ๐
PAINNN
u said 1-2 weeks a few mins ago, lmao. btw go # ๐งใspeculation
trend shift in a few hours and we will be climbing back to 1$
downtrend will be broken soon
Hi guys , I was trying yesterday to stake some usual this week, but the transaction fee was higher than my staking amount . I had an option of changing how much gwei I want to pay , if I chose 2 gwei , is that good ? I mean it will go throw but just harder ?Mava (AI Support)
Choosing a lower gwei, like 2 gwei, can reduce your transaction fee, but it may also result in your transaction taking longer to be processed. If the network is busy, your transaction might not go through quickly, or it could even fail if the gas price is too low. It's a balance between cost and speed.
Mava AI BetaJohnCarraway
Hi guys , I was trying yesterday to stake some usual this week, but the transaction fee was higher than my staking amount . I had an option of changing how much gwei I want to pay , if I chose 2 gwei , is that good ? I mean it will go throw but just harder ?
Usual
Which means any staking after UTC+0 regardless if itโs a minute or an hour beyond, wonโt be qualified for that weekโs reward?pcord
Which means any staking after UTC+0 regardless if itโs a minute or an hour beyond, wonโt be qualified for that weekโs reward?
Ksp
When are we getting the usdo rewards.Supposed to be utc 0
Mava (AI Support)
Yes, Usual takes a snapshot every Monday at UTC+0 to count USUALx for that week's USD0 reward. If you unstake after the snapshot, you will still receive the USD0 reward for that week.
Mava AI Beta
lofi
if i unstake usual now do i get first week usd0 reward?
Deicide
# ๐งใspeculation
R.R
Have this week's usualx prizes been distributed yet?
Usual
Ksp
But we haven't received rewards as yet
Gradier
By the way, how do we get the usd0 rewards?
DV
I've noticed way more than 20%
Candy Factory
01/19/2025 at 19:48:15 ESTOr they increased the emission by 20%
Candy Factory
01/19/2025 at 19:45:28 ESTItโs about 216 days, 20% increase from 180
Mava (AI Support)
To buy USUAL at the best price, you might want to compare prices on both the primary and secondary markets. Users have mentioned that the secondary market, such as Uniswap, might offer cheaper options. Once you have purchased USUAL, you can stake it on the official Usual website by connecting your wallet to the dApp.
Mava AI Beta
SaitamaXXX
Hello there! What is the cheapest way to buy USUAL and stake it on the offical website?
we are dead โ ๏ธ
Klinta
Paste wallet adress into debank app
Mava (AI Support)
You can check your weekly rewards directly on your dApp dashboard. If you are holding USD0++, rewards are distributed at the end of each 24-hour cycle under 'Pending Rewards'. For USUALx, rewards reflect live when you try to unstake.
Mava AI BetaDV
i see, it seems like a 30% jump
Ekosone
Yesh that's the case, Team increased parameter
DV
can anyone confirm their usual required to unstake 1:1 got higher?
Multis
what will be the consequences if you do not invest in usd0++? because few people want to invest for a period of 4 years, less profitability of USUAL?
major depeg risk, most on this channel can attest that the party started with 1:1 peg and o/n they dropped it to 1: 0.87, best of luck 2 U
0xjmslnr
depeg is for stablecoin, USD0++ is NOT a stablecoin
StarDust21
major depeg risk, most on this channel can attest that the party started with 1:1 peg and o/n they dropped it to 1: 0.87, best of luck 2 U
Multis
that is, such a high income is due to the fact that someone holds USD0++?
Mava (AI Support)
The high APR for holding USUAL is primarily due to the minting factor, which depends on various factors such as revenue and the supply of USD0++. The APY is calculated based on the value of $USUAL you receive for holding USD0++. This approach is designed to reward holders and early adopters.
Mava AI BetaMultis
why is the APR so high? 260% per annum if I hold USUAL
What's wrong with USUAL coin? In what way? Can you please give more details? Apparently I didn't fully understand everything and I don't see the whole pictureBingChilling
After tge pump and dump.
What's wrong with USUAL coin? In what way? Can you please give more details? Apparently I didn't fully understand everything and I don't see the whole picture
Governance is what can bring back trust to the community. Let token holders participate in the decision making process of the protocol.t1notbot
too early. Its building time
Fact
The Usual team continues to focus only on profit structure. Of course you need this too. Establishing a coin structure is important, but now, marketing aspects such as partnerships with large institutions are more urgent to restore external trust. The team must do this.
Multis
What's wrong with USUAL coin? In what way? Can you please give more details? Apparently I didn't fully understand everything and I don't see the whole picture
what is your strategy? hold on or exit? because if they cut off liquidity in usd0+ in this way, then it is unlikely that we will see an influx of liquidity, an influx of TVL, and so on into the project, that is, apparently 1.5 ATH was the maximum for this project
apparently they are simply trying to keep TVL from mass withdrawal of funds((Ekosone
Yep pretty much, holding for the moment. But not homding any USUAL coin digging a grave lmao
That's right no one wanna throw money now at USD0++, investors and community skeptical of how things have been handledMultis
what is your strategy? hold on or exit? because if they cut off liquidity in usd0+ in this way, then it is unlikely that we will see an influx of liquidity, an influx of TVL, and so on into the project, that is, apparently 1.5 ATH was the maximum for this project apparently they are simply trying to keep TVL from mass withdrawal of funds((
hi, anyone who did read this article ?what do u think about new rules about Conditional Exit & Unconditional Exit ? it really should help ? because i see only that fewer people will want to put money into the protocol since it will be blocked for 4 years. That is, the TVL will be stable and less subject to money outflow, but few will want to put it there. What are your thoughts?Ekosone
That's right no one wanna throw money now at USD0++, investors and community skeptical of how things have been handled
hi, anyone who did read this article ?what do u think about new rules about Conditional Exit & Unconditional Exit ? it really should help ? because i see only that fewer people will want to put money into the protocol since it will be blocked for 4 years. That is, the TVL will be stable and less subject to money outflow, but few will want to put it there. What are your thoughts?Usual
Multis
hi, anyone who did read this article ?what do u think about new rules about Conditional Exit & Unconditional Exit ? it really should help ? because i see only that fewer people will want to put money into the protocol since it will be blocked for 4 years. That is, the TVL will be stable and less subject to money outflow, but few will want to put it there. What are your thoughts?
Yt:Anteiku980
Who got out of the project to get it down to 0.40 a night there were 310 now 226M.
marvak
Omg what is happening.
Mava (AI Support)
USD0 is a stablecoin, which means its price is designed to remain stable, typically pegged to a currency like the US dollar. Therefore, it is not expected to 'pump' like other cryptocurrencies. However, USUAL is the governance token, and its price can fluctuate based on market conditions and demand.
Mava AI Beta
haroon butt
is there any chance of pump in usual price
SatoshiXXX
Iq 150
Dave.race
Delta-neutral
fredchan17999
Whats DN btw? First heard so curious ๐
Dave.race
I'm not playing the trade game ๐ DN is the way
barabu
๐
Dave.race
This aged well ๐ฅฒ
XIUXI
@Mava (AI Support) why is dumpp?
Mava (AI Support)
The high APR is due to the way Usual calculates rewards. It is based on APY, which assumes daily compounding. This can make the APR appear higher than expected because it forecasts average daily rewards over a year.
Mava AI BetaBingChilling
Just swap on the apps when gas fee low. It route to best 2nd marekt or u can swap in curve pool
ky
cheapest place to get usd0++?
Mava (AI Support)
Yes, when you stake USUAL, you benefit from the redistribution of burned USUAL. The 10% unstaking fee is partially redistributed to those who continue to stake, which can increase your share of the rewards.
Mava AI BetaJohnCarraway
If I stake usual this week , would I benefit from burned usual from redistribution ?
Mava (AI Support)
Hi, the projected rewards UI for USUALx's USD0 rewards has been updated: instead of displaying a monthly amount distributed weekly, it now displays the weekly amount distributed weekly.
Mava AI Beta
Esmone
why did the projected rewards from dropped ? i had projected 150$ and today 33$?
LANOIX
did the pendle YT USUALX gona have the USD0 drop ?
The second image is on secondary market where the ratio fluctuate
@Right For suggestions you should tag the team
Right
thank you
fredchan17999
The second image is on secondary market where the ratio fluctuate @Right For suggestions you should tag the team
Right
One of the things I find exciting about TermMax is how it can integrate with Usualโs USD0 stablecoin. With TermMaxโs ability to offer fixed-rate lending and borrowing, you can leverage your USD0 holdings for a higher return while keeping your exposure to price volatility low. Itโs the best of both worldsโsecurity and yield
Usual price lower, u buy it because the revenue yield is going to be larger than previously. Is that too hard to understand?fredchan17999
Totally agree
Cerejinha
Onde vejo minha recompensas de USD0 do revenue? @Mava (AI Support)
Yeah, a few weeks ago i was worry about it when it started going down. But now that it is in USUAL app i dont worry to much about the price. Before i did chech many, MANY times a day, but now i dont, i think yesterday was the firts time since USUAL came out that i only check the price one time all day.glennbech
Ususal price doesn't worry me much short term since I can stake it and compound tokens while also taking USD0 rewards.
Bro donโt try to maximize performance in short time and keep worrying about the price every single day. I believe one day it can move up significantly ๐JACH
Yeah, a few weeks ago i was worry about it when it started going down. But now that it is in USUAL app i dont worry to much about the price. Before i did chech many, MANY times a day, but now i dont, i think yesterday was the firts time since USUAL came out that i only check the price one time all day.
Ok thkns. just asking.
Another question, since i stake reward when down 20%. U guys think it will go lower?fredchan17999
Bro donโt try to maximize performance in short time and keep worrying about the price every single day. I believe one day it can move up significantly ๐
BingChilling
you get more apy - exit fee still profitable compare other STABLE Coins
yes anything can happen in crypto but we already low cap people sell here is selling the bottom.
i like buy low sell highJACH
Before i stake i try that, but dint Time It right, lost 10 USUAL, not much, but with that i could have pay the fee from Binance to web3.
Ok thkns. just asking.
Another question, since i stake reward when down 20%. U guys think it will go lower?BingChilling
yes anything can happen in crypto but we already low cap people sell here is selling the bottom. i like buy low sell high
JACH
Ok thkns. just asking. Another question, since i stake reward when down 20%. U guys think it will go lower?
BingChilling
ofc that's how eth works
JACH
But sending USD0 to metamask Will cost fee right?
Thank you! Thatโs kind of you. Iโm not very familiar with staking, but I have 464 USUALX on the exchange and 560 USUAL on Debank. However, itโs equivalent, so I havenโt gained anything.
dEx3p
you should check the initial transaction how much usual you stakedto usualX. Now usualx is autocompounding into more usual underlying value. So if you check debank and check how much usual it is now compared to how much you stakedinitially. thats your profit in usual tokens.
I'm thinking about staking $10k USUAL(x) and swaping the weekly rewards to other currencies to spread exposure. What do you think?BingChilling
Good u can wait iusd0++ vault. Collect your reward dump in there. Thats my plan
glennbech
I'm thinking about staking $10k USUAL(x) and swaping the weekly rewards to other currencies to spread exposure. What do you think?
Esmone
the value that shows on projected rewards fee are = to the month or week?
if we stake new usualx it wont enter this epoch and only the next one. But will it affect the staking for the current epoch?Mava (AI Support)
Staking new USUALx will not affect the current epoch. It will only be counted for the next epoch. You will receive USUAL rewards immediately, but they will be applicable for the next epoch.
Mava AI BetaEsmone
if we stake new usualx it wont enter this epoch and only the next one. But will it affect the staking for the current epoch?
Does staked usual increase in the ledger wallet or rabby ? Or it only shows when you install and can check on de bank ?SaitamaXXX
Yes it increase in rabby wallet
TR0UBL35H00T3R
Oh i see inside debank? I hope so usually they do , since usual is new it might take awhile for them to update reward s etc
JohnCarraway
Yeah I got it , but will they implement more stats in the app itself , since de bank is an app from outside .
TR0UBL35H00T3R
use debank to track everything its the easiest solution
TR0UBL35H00T3R
well its all the same ledger and rabby , ledger is just the hadware wallet, rabby is the evm wallet you make the transactions with
JohnCarraway
Are there any updated on the way that will fix this ?
Does staked usual increase in the ledger wallet or rabby ? Or it only shows when you install and can check on de bank ?TR0UBL35H00T3R
everythiing you need to know is on debank its the best way to track
Does staked usual increase in the ledger wallet or rabby ? Or it only shows when you install and can check on de bank ?Mava (AI Support)
Staked USUAL does not increase in your Ledger wallet or Rabby directly. Instead, the increase is reflected in the value of USUALx, which acts like a vault share. You can check your rewards and the increase in value by simulating an unstake or by checking your position on DeBank.
Mava AI BetaJohnCarraway
Does staked usual increase in the ledger wallet or rabby ? Or it only shows when you install and can check on de bank ?
JohnCarraway
Thanks for reply
TR0UBL35H00T3R
yes you can exchange
JohnCarraway
Can you exchange them in daap?
JohnCarraway
Is there an option to buy usualx with the usd0 rewards from staked usualx?
yes but but I have 464 USUALX on the exchange and 560 USUAL on Debank. However, itโs equivalent, so I havenโt gained anything.Yt:Anteiku980
But how much usual did you put?
a.f.brockstar
I've been trying for days but I can't stake
yes but but I have 464 USUALX on the exchange and 560 USUAL on Debank. However, itโs equivalent, so I havenโt gained anything.fredchan17999
U can share ur debank here so the team or we can check
Create a mechanism for people who stucked with you to exist without penalties. Why did you do it to your liquidity providers?SatoshiXXX
Stan lee, i think u ded?
Philelim
yes but but I have 464 USUALX on the exchange and 560 USUAL on Debank. However, itโs equivalent, so I havenโt gained anything.
Yt:Anteiku980
You will have to look it up in debank
Yes bro, debank is where the correct number will show for your staked amount
Go to debank.com/profile/Philelim
Thank you! Thatโs kind of you. Iโm not very familiar with staking, but I have 464 USUALX on the exchange and 560 USUAL on Debank. However, itโs equivalent, so I havenโt gained anything.
fredchan17999
Yes bro, debank is where the correct number will show for your staked amount
Go to debank.com/profile/
Philelim
debank ?
fredchan17999
Check debank to see ur compounded USUAL amount is now higher then initial amount
Philelim
what ?? Itโs been three weeks that Iโve been stacking, and I havenโt gotten anything.
TR0UBL35H00T3R
how long has it been staked for
Yt:Anteiku980
?
yasiaforever81
When tho?
icarioth
Why ppl put money to things they donโt understand and have problem to ppl around? ๐
One of my friends tries to exit now from Usd0++with your 1:1 Usual penalty scheme. The penalty is 16% of the invested amount nominated in Usual tokens, so i donโt understand the value of this proposal. Why fhe rate is so high? And why do i need to pay for your poor communication?Noรฉ
Hi, the rate of the Early Redemption depends on weekly outflows, time before maturity etc. Current rate is high because outflows are high (it's based on the last 7 days).
BingChilling
the stablecoin in usd0 still $1 last i check
Stan
as we all know it is not a stable coin any more
lol there is no stablecoin farm give you much apy than usd0++
you cannot get your money back what you gonna do ? crying everyday ? get some helpUsual
BingChilling
lol there is no stablecoin farm give you much apy than usd0++ you cannot get your money back what you gonna do ? crying everyday ? get some help
Stan
what i will farm is my problem, I need my money back to farm first of all.
thank for advise, i am not surprised with the education level of some participants here. Totally matching with the usual company profile
One of my friends tries to exit now from Usd0++with your 1:1 Usual penalty scheme. The penalty is 16% of the invested amount nominated in Usual tokens, so i donโt understand the value of this proposal. Why fhe rate is so high? And why do i need to pay for your poor communication?BingChilling
if you think you getting scam then you you are not cut loss and move on ? are you want to wait until $0 ? if you are not think getting scam instead of think how i exit think how i can make money ? you exit what you gonna farm ?
One of my friends tries to exit now from Usd0++with your 1:1 Usual penalty scheme. The penalty is 16% of the invested amount nominated in Usual tokens, so i donโt understand the value of this proposal. Why fhe rate is so high? And why do i need to pay for your poor communication?
Stan
One of my friends tries to exit now from Usd0++with your 1:1 Usual penalty scheme. The penalty is 16% of the invested amount nominated in Usual tokens, so i donโt understand the value of this proposal. Why fhe rate is so high? And why do i need to pay for your poor communication?
Stan
Create a mechanism for people who stucked with you to exist without penalties. Why did you do it to your liquidity providers?
Nothing was communicated properly, you were applogizing for that already. Even Pendle was mistaken about your policies.
Noรฉ
if one thing, is that we followed the whitepaper by the letter
Noรฉ
Nothing that wasn't public happened btw
BingChilling
u can buy usd0 if you want ensure 1:1 peg everytime and farm curve pool everybody change the rule to improve the protocol. what are you talking about bro ? you want me give you example ?
Usual
is it normal 5% of IL on curve cause a depeg of 9% ? i had in mind on uniswap it takes much more variation to face such as ILMava (AI Support)
Impermanent loss (IL) can vary depending on the liquidity pool and the specific conditions of the market. In the case of USD0++, the DAO manages the risks of underlying deposits and can adjust the liquidity pool allocation strategy if necessary. This means that while a 5% IL might seem to cause a 9% depeg, the DAO has mechanisms to manage and mitigate these risks. The difference in IL impact between Curve and Uniswap can be due to different pool dynamics and liquidity strategies.
Mava AI Betaeazyesphat
is it normal 5% of IL on curve cause a depeg of 9% ? i had in mind on uniswap it takes much more variation to face such as IL
Stan
i want out
there was always a possibility to sell it 1;1 ratio, but now i can't do it without loosing another 10%BingChilling
I'm curious if you exit what are you gonna farm?
Stan
there was always a possibility to sell it 1;1 ratio, but now i can't do it without loosing another 10%
Aayush Niraula
usual 2 $ dream price ๐ Its going down day by day
guys, you act unfair. You never communicated any unpeg, attracted investments 1:1 and then stole around 10% in one day without any prior announcements. read your white paper where you say that unper is very unlikely because you are backed by RWA and etc. Then you come to the market and unpeg it in within first few weeks.BingChilling
Read the doc. U buy usd0++ u already consent lock 4 years
Stan
guys, you act unfair. You never communicated any unpeg, attracted investments 1:1 and then stole around 10% in one day without any prior announcements. read your white paper where you say that unper is very unlikely because you are backed by RWA and etc. Then you come to the market and unpeg it in within first few weeks.
you dropped the peg when market was down, so why not to returj it back ? market is up again, return me my moneyfredchan17999
USD0++ is not stablecoin like USD0. Take time to read docs bro You have to hold USD0++ for 4 years to back 1:1 ratio or early redemption with penalties
Stan
you dropped the peg when market was down, so why not to returj it back ? market is up again, return me my money
Mava (AI Support)
USD0++ is not guaranteed to maintain a 1:1 peg with USD0 as it is not classified as a stablecoin. Its value can fluctuate due to market conditions and other factors. The Usual protocol has mechanisms like the Parity Arbitrage Right (PAR) to stabilize USD0++ if its market price deviates significantly. However, it is not intended to always trade at a 1:1 ratio with USD0. References: 1
Mava AI BetaStan
why USD0++ is down when market is up? are you guys planning to return it back 1:1 with USD0?
Stan
when early redemption will be live?
I hope that the results of staking usualx can be immediately converted to usualx and create a contract where you can't unstake for a week, two weeks or a maximum of 1 month, that's fairer and more interesting for me ๐DV
Read docs if you want fairness
R.R
I hope that the results of staking usualx can be immediately converted to usualx and create a contract where you can't unstake for a week, two weeks or a maximum of 1 month, that's fairer and more interesting for me ๐
I staked 10,000 usual, the screen displays like this, I will receive 275usd0 every week, right?Noรฉ
Hi, the "projected rewards" in USD0 amount, for your USUALx position, are calculated based on your share of the total USUALx supply relative to the total rewards pool distributed monthly. Rewards will be distributed on a weekly epoch, but the amount displayed is monthly.
yasiaforever81
Rewards come from every block fren, welcome!
That's exactly what I wanted to know. And another thing, this value that appears in the system corresponds to the monthly value, right? ThxNovatioLegis
That's exactly what I wanted to know. And another thing, this value that appears in the system corresponds to the monthly value, right? Thx
Will this amount be received in USD0 and placed in the wallet linked to the system? And can I trade that won't hurt my bet and future rewards?fredchan17999
Not sure I understand your question clearly. USD0 will be sent to your wallet (which holding USUALX) directly. You can definitely use it however you want
Yes, you will receive 275 / 4 = 68.75 every weekend (assume that your stake amount and APY remain)fredchan17999
Yes, you will receive 275 / 4 = 68.75 every weekend (assume that your stake amount and APY remain)
kiratsunami
monday
Vanessa Blanc
01/15/2025 at 06:26:16 ESTYes you can!
jayce
Can I receive usual every week?
fredchan17999
Eh I think 275 for monthly, not weekly as Mava said ๐ค
jayce
I staked usual and received usualx what is the reward I will receive every week
BingChilling
20jan
jayce
What day of the week can I receive USD0?
kin
True... ๐คฆ๐คฆ
basedscarf
Poor mava bot
What if i sell the usualx tokens in secondary market, the usual token earned while staking will be gone?Mava (AI Support)
When you sell your USUALx tokens on the secondary market, you effectively transfer your share of the staking rewards to the buyer. Therefore, any USUAL tokens earned while staking would be part of the value of the USUALx tokens you sell. Reference: 1
Mava AI Betakin
What if i sell the usualx tokens in secondary market, the usual token earned while staking will be gone?
If swapping usualx back to usual in the secondary market, the usual token earned while staking will be not entitled to get it?Mava (AI Support)
When you swap USUALx back to USUAL, you are essentially redeeming your share of the staking rewards. The USUAL tokens you receive will include the accumulated rewards earned while staking.
Mava AI Betakin
If swapping usualx back to usual in the secondary market, the usual token earned while staking will be not entitled to get it?
How about usualx? When swapping using secondary market, how to collect the usual token earned while staking?Mava (AI Support)
To collect the USUAL tokens earned while staking USUALx, you need to unstake your USUALx. The rewards accumulated during staking are reflected in the amount of USUAL you can withdraw when you unstake.
Mava AI Betakin
How about usualx? When swapping using secondary market, how to collect the usual token earned while staking?
R.R
When swapping using the secondary market, do I still get the Usual reward?
BingChilling
No
R.R
Is there a plan to pump up the usual price?
Mava (AI Support)
To avoid the 10% unstaking fee, you can use the secondary market to swap USUALx to USUAL instead of unstaking directly. However, keep in mind that the secondary market might price in the unstaking fee in the conversion rate.
Mava AI Beta
R.R
how to avoid being fee 10% when unstaking
why are Usual rewards not immediately converted to Usual? and is there a fine when unstaking Usualx?Mava (AI Support)
USUAL rewards are not immediately converted to USUAL because when you stake USUAL into USUALx, it acts like a vault share. This means your rewards accrue and autocompound over time, allowing you to withdraw more USUAL when unstaking. There is a 10% unstaking fee for USUALx, which is paid in USUALx and then redistributed to all current USUALx holders.
Mava AI BetaR.R
why are Usual rewards not immediately converted to Usual? and is there a fine when unstaking Usualx?
Mava (AI Support)
The conversion rate of USUAL to USUALx is not 1:1. When you stake USUAL, you receive USUALx, which acts like a vault-share. This means the conversion rate reflects your proportional share of the rewards, rather than a direct 1:1 conversion.
Mava AI BetaJACH
@Mava (AI Support) whats the comvertion rate of USUAL to USUALx
Mava (AI Support)
The rewards for staking USUAL depend on various factors, including the current distribution rate and the number of participants in the staking pool. When you stake USUAL, you convert it into USUALx, which gives you a share of the new USUAL emissions and a portion of unstaking fees. The exact reward can vary based on the protocol's growth and the number of stakers.
Mava AI BetaMava (AI Support)
You can see your USUAL staking rewards when you try to unstake. The rewards are reflected in the increased value of your USUALx, which acts like a vault share. This means your rewards accrue and compound over time, allowing you to withdraw more than you initially deposited.
Mava AI Beta
JACH
@Mava (AI Support) when can i see usual stake reward
JACH
@Mava (AI Support) to send USUAL from metamask to binance It would cost me ETH or USUAL?
I have a question re Usual x Berachain Vault. Can anyone see how much reward they have accumulated since staking? It has been 11 days for me but I cannot see.basedscarf
Will be visible on vault provider site afaik
kiratsunami
supply of USD0++ at time t
Usual
AM
I have a question re Usual x Berachain Vault. Can anyone see how much reward they have accumulated since staking? It has been 11 days for me but I cannot see.
Noรฉ
USD0++ supply at time t
fredchan17999
No, you just need to stake USUALX then you will get rev switch based on the staked amount. Not need 50% of wallet
Antonio
By staking UsualX more than 50% than the Usual you've on your wallet
leha
how to activate revenue switch
alexey.k
Not funny
SatoshiXXX
Alexey is a pussey
sefishyโข โ
You canโt send in links. Itโs not permitted
Usual
Panos
Hello can someone help me here?
BingChilling
it's fine people alergic to money. he want farm 1:1 stablecoin with 10% apy lul so be it
Antonio
were you trying to be funny?
What's the strategy: hoping to increase the value of Usual in the future or keep it low (0.5-0.6)?basedscarf
Token go up
What's the strategy: hoping to increase the value of Usual in the future or keep it low (0.5-0.6)?alexey.k
exit, deposit somewhere else ๐ฅฒ
Antonio
What's the strategy: hoping to increase the value of Usual in the future or keep it low (0.5-0.6)?
What's the reason for no? Why discourage users from putting Usualx on Pendle (PT/YT) because that would be the result. To me, Pendle provides a great opportunity to increase demand in the token, as long as the expected rewards/interest can be speculated by a market. Not allowing airdrops to YT holders obfuscates the interest rate/rewards rate.
ultralisk3669
Its not that I'm demanding it although having it would be great since I hold usualx YT. Its just that I would really like to understand why not, since YT is supposed to be about yield and fact is that they are backed by usualX tokens in the LP isnt it?
yecine4686
how ? i saw that minting rate is 3 in dune it means 3% a year 548,5M USUAL * 3% = 16M am i missing something ?
but 3 minting rate is very low no ?
it means that around 16 million usual will be created all this year
very little impact on the revenu switch share0xjmslnr
it's like 2M token every day sir, right now...
yecine4686
but 3 minting rate is very low no ? it means that around 16 million usual will be created all this year very little impact on the revenu switch share
0xjmslnr
yes it could drop even if USD0 TVL is staying the same. Minting rate would stay around 3, so everyday more token are minted, so probably more USUALx would be stake, and eligible for rev fees
BingChilling
it doenst matter if you have high demand sol emission was bad who cares ?
yecine4686
and what about new usual tokens emission does it affect ?
yecine4686
i said if tvl does not go down can revenu switch go down in this case ?
hello,
if i have 2000 dollars a month from revenu switch of staked usualx
if tvl does not go down
can this 2000 dollard of reward go down ?
my goal is to have a steady income that does not go down in value can usual do this ?yecine4686
hello, if i have 2000 dollars a month from revenu switch of staked usualx if tvl does not go down can this 2000 dollard of reward go down ? my goal is to have a steady income that does not go down in value can usual do this ?
basedscarf
Tyvm
Noรฉ
Yes sir, on Dune: # ๐ใofficial-links
basedscarf
@Noรฉ do you know where one can see past 7 days of USD0++ mints & redemptions
vmele
What's the reason for no? Why discourage users from putting Usualx on Pendle (PT/YT) because that would be the result. To me, Pendle provides a great opportunity to increase demand in the token, as long as the expected rewards/interest can be speculated by a market. Not allowing airdrops to YT holders obfuscates the interest rate/rewards rate.
After contemplating, i agree YT should be able to receive dividend. It will help us repair relationship with pendle, and gaining wider userbaseDoes anyone know why Usualx YT doesnโt qualify for the Usualx rewards? Whatโs the rationale behind it?SatoshiXXX
After contemplating, i agree YT should be able to receive dividend. It will help us repair relationship with pendle, and gaining wider userbase
Does anyone know why Usualx YT doesnโt qualify for the Usualx rewards? Whatโs the rationale behind it?BingChilling
your token wrapped in yt do BTC = WBTC ?
ultralisk3669
Does anyone know why Usualx YT doesnโt qualify for the Usualx rewards? Whatโs the rationale behind it?
We losing money trying to invest in products that are promoted on the page and not cause of the market tanking itโs cause changes happen and some are just not included in these plans .So Iโm better off selling my yt cause Iโm getting less yield as staking , usually you always get the underlying yield which is staked usual xMo4
We losing money trying to invest in products that are promoted on the page and not cause of the market tanking itโs cause changes happen and some are just not included in these plans .
PT got wrecked not YT for usual , team should do better communication with pendle its not ok
So Iโm better off selling my yt cause Iโm getting less yield as staking , usually you always get the underlying yield which is staked usual x
Hi I have a question , whatโs going to happen to YT holders on pendle ? Usually you get the yield of 1 usual x but now with the switch how is that going to be?BingChilling
u get more usual that's the point of YT u don't get usd0
Mo4
Hi I have a question , whatโs going to happen to YT holders on pendle ? Usually you get the yield of 1 usual x but now with the switch how is that going to be?
basedscarf
@Mava (AI Support) u dead?
basedscarf
@Mava (AI Support) what is the target net outflow for usd0++ currently set to by the dao?
I staked USD0++ on Beravault 10 days ago but still cannot see any pending rewards. When will this become visible?
I staked USD0++ on Beravault 10 days ago but still cannot see any pending rewards. When will this become visible?
Kaleo
Some platforms distribute rewards on a daily, weekly, or monthly basis. You may need to check if thereโs a specified reward cycle
AM
I staked USD0++ on Beravault 10 days ago but still cannot see any pending rewards. When will this become visible?
PeruExchange
Hi
Fallen Angel
so this chance will be given only tomorrow?
olimpio
got it thanks
olimpio
Noe, for the early USD0++ redemption, is the understanding that A resets every week correct? i.e. there's 1 chance every 7 days to exit at 1-1? @Noรฉ talking about this formula B USUAL =U t ร T ร A
antdel7528
01/13/2025 at 12:35:34 ESTMan people donโt read anything!
Does anyone know where the USD0 rewards go? I'm in the system with a projection of USD0, but have they already been distributed? And where are they available?BingChilling
Usualx if you holding from yesterday and hold until 20 jan u get usd0
NovatioLegis
Does anyone know where the USD0 rewards go? I'm in the system with a projection of USD0, but have they already been distributed? And where are they available?
Your continued deflection is unacceptable. Iโll ask again:
1.โ โ For how long was the APY on the UI incorrect?
2.โ โ Is the APY on the UI now accurate?
If there will be an official announcement addressing these questions, when can we expect it? Vague assurances without timelines are not sufficient. @Noรฉ @Adli @Mr. Linbasedscarf
2) The activation of rewards for the new Morpho USD0/USD0++ LP market was delayed by one day, creating a brief phase of increased rewards for the standalone Curve USD0/USD0++ LP and the old hardcoded USD0/USD0++ LP market. All Morpho borrowers in the new market will receive their corresponding rewards within a one-week delay through a disperse.
Your continued deflection is unacceptable. Iโll ask again:
1.โ โ For how long was the APY on the UI incorrect?
2.โ โ Is the APY on the UI now accurate?
If there will be an official announcement addressing these questions, when can we expect it? Vague assurances without timelines are not sufficient. @Noรฉ @Adli @Mr. Lin
Fadi
@Noรฉ is trying to tell you : WAIT! it is not known to him even when the announcement will be out. Be patient. We are all in the same boat. Let us wait and see.
Thank you for your persistence. As mentioned previously, all matters, including those regarding APY display, are being reviewed and communicated via our official channels. These platforms ensure consistency, transparency, and accessibility.
We kindly encourage you to monitor those channels for precise and authoritative updates. Your understanding and engagement with this process are greatly appreciated.Vincentporot
Your continued deflection is unacceptable. Iโll ask again: 1.โ โ For how long was the APY on the UI incorrect? 2.โ โ Is the APY on the UI now accurate? If there will be an official announcement addressing these questions, when can we expect it? Vague assurances without timelines are not sufficient. @Noรฉ @Adli @Mr. Lin
Your response continues to avoid addressing the core issue. Directing us to โofficial communicationsโ that provide no real answers is not transparencyโitโs avoidance.
Iโll ask again:
1.โ โ For how long was the APY on the UI incorrect?
2.โ โ Is the APY on the UI now accurate and reliable?
These are straightforward questions that demand direct answers. I expect clear, precise responses. @Noรฉ @Adli @Mr. LinNoรฉ
Thank you for your persistence. As mentioned previously, all matters, including those regarding APY display, are being reviewed and communicated via our official channels. These platforms ensure consistency, transparency, and accessibility. We kindly encourage you to monitor those channels for precise and authoritative updates. Your understanding and engagement with this process are greatly appreciated.
Thank you for your message. As stated, any updates regarding this matter are or will be addressed through official communications. For accuracy, we encourage reviewing those channels, as they remain the best source of truth. We appreciate your understanding as we ensure transparency and reliability across our platform.Vincentporot
Your response continues to avoid addressing the core issue. Directing us to โofficial communicationsโ that provide no real answers is not transparencyโitโs avoidance. Iโll ask again: 1.โ โ For how long was the APY on the UI incorrect? 2.โ โ Is the APY on the UI now accurate and reliable? These are straightforward questions that demand direct answers. I expect clear, precise responses. @Noรฉ @Adli @Mr. Lin
Thank you for your response, but itโs important to address the core issue directly.
Your documentation clearly states that the APY is determined by the protocol, yet youโve admitted that the displayed APY was manually changed today by your team. This directly contradicts your claim of transparency. Additionally, your โofficial communicationsโ have said nothing substantive about this issue, leaving users in the dark about what went wrong and its impact.
Your vague reassurances and references to documentation donโt address the critical questions at hand. The community deserves straightforward answers.
1.โ โ For how long was the APY on the UI incorrect?
2.โ โ Is the APY on the UI now accurate and trustworthy?
Please respond directly specifically to these 2 questions. @NoรฉNoรฉ
Thank you for your message. As stated, any updates regarding this matter are or will be addressed through official communications. For accuracy, we encourage reviewing those channels, as they remain the best source of truth. We appreciate your understanding as we ensure transparency and reliability across our platform.
Thank you for your message. We take any feedback, concerns, or inquiries about our protocol very seriously. For any technical clarifications, we recommend referring to our previously shared communications and official documentation. Transparency and trust are central to our mission, and we are committed to addressing questions in a manner aligned with our protocols and standards.
Regarding specific concerns, such as the APY figures and how they are communicated, we assure our community that any discrepancies are rigorously reviewed and the team is always updating according to feeback. Further details are documented in our whitepaper, litepaper, and FAQ materials.Vincentporot
Thank you for your response, but itโs important to address the core issue directly. Your documentation clearly states that the APY is determined by the protocol, yet youโve admitted that the displayed APY was manually changed today by your team. This directly contradicts your claim of transparency. Additionally, your โofficial communicationsโ have said nothing substantive about this issue, leaving users in the dark about what went wrong and its impact. Your vague reassurances and references to documentation donโt address the critical questions at hand. The community deserves straightforward answers. 1.โ โ For how long was the APY on the UI incorrect? 2.โ โ Is the APY on the UI now accurate and trustworthy? Please respond directly specifically to these 2 questions. @Noรฉ
The losses are twofold. First, users made financial decisions based on the inflated APY figures, keeping funds in the pool under false assumptions instead of reallocating to better and safer opportunities. Second, the misleading APY incentivized users to stay in the pool, artificially increasing the price of USD0++, which directly benefits the team. This creates a clear conflict of interest, as exaggerated APY attracts more users to USD0++.
Displaying incorrect APY to investors isnโt just unethicalโit likely breaches financial and consumer protection laws in France. Providing false or misleading financial information to induce investment is a serious matter, with potentially severe regulatory consequences. Transparency about how long the APY was incorrect and why this wasnโt detected sooner is critical to maintaining any trust.
Itโs hard to believe that a team 1.5 billion dollars simply โmissedโ that they were displaying an APY more than double the reality for days.
These concerns demand immediate clarity. Without full transparency, this issue risks escalating into a significant reputational and legal problem. @NoรฉNoรฉ
Thank you for your message. We take any feedback, concerns, or inquiries about our protocol very seriously. For any technical clarifications, we recommend referring to our previously shared communications and official documentation. Transparency and trust are central to our mission, and we are committed to addressing questions in a manner aligned with our protocols and standards. Regarding specific concerns, such as the APY figures and how they are communicated, we assure our community that any discrepancies are rigorously reviewed and the team is always updating according to feeback. Further details are documented in our whitepaper, litepaper, and FAQ materials.
Clayboi Parti
Wha's the correct APY of USD0-USD0++ pool?
Vincentporot
The losses are twofold. First, users made financial decisions based on the inflated APY figures, keeping funds in the pool under false assumptions instead of reallocating to better and safer opportunities. Second, the misleading APY incentivized users to stay in the pool, artificially increasing the price of USD0++, which directly benefits the team. This creates a clear conflict of interest, as exaggerated APY attracts more users to USD0++. Displaying incorrect APY to investors isnโt just unethicalโit likely breaches financial and consumer protection laws in France. Providing false or misleading financial information to induce investment is a serious matter, with potentially severe regulatory consequences. Transparency about how long the APY was incorrect and why this wasnโt detected sooner is critical to maintaining any trust. Itโs hard to believe that a team 1.5 billion dollars simply โmissedโ that they were displaying an APY more than double the reality for days. These concerns demand immediate clarity. Without full transparency, this issue risks escalating into a significant reputational and legal problem. @Noรฉ
Your response mixes two distinct issuesโincorrect APY on the Curve pool and the failure to distribute rewards for the Morpho vaultsโwithout adequately addressing either. Letโs break this down.
Curve Pool APY Issue
An apology is not enough to address the financial losses caused by your incorrect APY display. Users relied on this data to make decisions, and your mistake has real consequences. Hereโs what needs to be addressed:
1. How long was the APY on the Curve pool incorrect?
Provide the exact timeline. Vague answers only damage your credibility further.
2. What concrete steps are being taken to compensate users for losses caused by the false APY?
Donโt sidestep thisโusers deserve compensation for financial decisions made based on incorrect data.
3. What measures are being implemented to prevent this from happening again?
How will you ensure users can trust APY figures going forward? What mechanisms are in place for independent verification?
Displaying false APY figures is a serious matterโit directly impacts trust and raises legal questions. This cannot be brushed off with a simple apology. @daniellll111llhell0men
What losses do you talking about?
eazyesphat
i deposted 10k inb usd0-usd0++. what is the expected IL with depeg to 0.92 ?
Vincentporot
> Morpho Vault Rewards Youโve promised retroactive rewards, but your explanation leaves critical questions unanswered: Where will the compensation come from? If Usual doesnโt control the minting mechanics of $USUAL, who or what is funding the retroactive rewards? Be transparentโusers need to understand the source. Why is the one-week window for users to check their rewards so short and unfair? This timeframe benefits you, not users. If someone is under-rewarded, the remaining tokens directly benefit your platform. A realistic, longer window for verification must be provided, and users should be proactively informed of discrepancies. You claim transparency, yet this process seems designed to make it easier for users to miss errors in their rewards, to your advantage. Address this clearly. This is about accountability. Apologies and vague promises are not enough. Your platformโs credibility is at stake, and users need direct, verifiable actions, not excuses. I expect a detailed response addressing all points. @Noรฉ
As previously mentioned, the implementation of reward tracking for this specific vault and for yesterdayโs epoch encountered a technical bug. We apologize for any inconvenience caused.
This issue will be resolved in the coming hours, and the rewards related to the previous 24-hour epoch will, of course, be compensated via a disperse transaction. You can verify the daily reward distribution, which is published on-chain at regular intervals using a Merkle proof.
Users have one week to challenge the reward distribution if they believe there are errors in their allocation. Usual is fully transparent regarding reward distribution, and all relevant information is accessible on-chain.Vincentporot
Your response mixes two distinct issuesโincorrect APY on the Curve pool and the failure to distribute rewards for the Morpho vaultsโwithout adequately addressing either. Letโs break this down. Curve Pool APY Issue An apology is not enough to address the financial losses caused by your incorrect APY display. Users relied on this data to make decisions, and your mistake has real consequences. Hereโs what needs to be addressed: 1. How long was the APY on the Curve pool incorrect? Provide the exact timeline. Vague answers only damage your credibility further. 2. What concrete steps are being taken to compensate users for losses caused by the false APY? Donโt sidestep thisโusers deserve compensation for financial decisions made based on incorrect data. 3. What measures are being implemented to prevent this from happening again? How will you ensure users can trust APY figures going forward? What mechanisms are in place for independent verification? Displaying false APY figures is a serious matterโit directly impacts trust and raises legal questions. This cannot be brushed off with a simple apology. @daniellll111ll
SatoshiXXX
@Gunner funk ok my spot position enterin red zone
Where will the missing Usual tokens come from? This is not just a UI issueโitโs about accountability.
If youโve been displaying incorrect APY figures for days, how can anyone be confident that emissions were actually distributed according to the stated APY and not entirely wrong? Essentially, youโre admitting to providing false financial information. Is this even legal in France?
You โforgotโ to distribute rewards on $100 million worth of positions in Morphoโdo you not think this warrants a public explanation?
Additionally, if the APY shown on the UI was incorrect for at least two days (possibly longer, as I didnโt check every day), leading users to make misinformed financial decisions, shouldnโt this be addressed transparently? Shouldnโt the white paper include โincorrect APY representationโ as a risk factor?
How can I trust the current APY figures are accurate? During the month, how will I know Iโve received the missing rewards? Or am I expected to trust that you havenโt simply adjusted the APY to compensate for the Usuals you failed to reward in the Morpho pool? @NoรฉNoรฉ
As previously mentioned, the implementation of reward tracking for this specific vault and for yesterdayโs epoch encountered a technical bug. We apologize for any inconvenience caused. This issue will be resolved in the coming hours, and the rewards related to the previous 24-hour epoch will, of course, be compensated via a disperse transaction. You can verify the daily reward distribution, which is published on-chain at regular intervals using a Merkle proof. Users have one week to challenge the reward distribution if they believe there are errors in their allocation. Usual is fully transparent regarding reward distribution, and all relevant information is accessible on-chain.
Vincentporot
Why did you have to manually lower the APY displayed in the UI? Can you explain the details of the bug, how long the incorrect APY was displayed, and what steps you are taking to compensate affected users? @Noรฉ
Vincentporot
Where will the missing Usual tokens come from? This is not just a UI issueโitโs about accountability. If youโve been displaying incorrect APY figures for days, how can anyone be confident that emissions were actually distributed according to the stated APY and not entirely wrong? Essentially, youโre admitting to providing false financial information. Is this even legal in France? You โforgotโ to distribute rewards on $100 million worth of positions in Morphoโdo you not think this warrants a public explanation? Additionally, if the APY shown on the UI was incorrect for at least two days (possibly longer, as I didnโt check every day), leading users to make misinformed financial decisions, shouldnโt this be addressed transparently? Shouldnโt the white paper include โincorrect APY representationโ as a risk factor? How can I trust the current APY figures are accurate? During the month, how will I know Iโve received the missing rewards? Or am I expected to trust that you havenโt simply adjusted the APY to compensate for the Usuals you failed to reward in the Morpho pool? @Noรฉ
Hi this should be fixed for today's distribution. As for yesterday's rewards, we will retroactively distribute them during the month.Vincentporot
So you are manually fixing the APY @Noรฉ
this pool: https://app.morpho.org/market?id=0xa59b6c3c6d1df322195bfb48ddcdcca1a4c0890540e8ee75815765096c1e8971&network=mainnet is not generating any Usual rewards for over 40 hours. Is anyone else having this issue? @Noรฉ @Mr. LinNoรฉ
Hi this should be fixed for today's distribution. As for yesterday's rewards, we will retroactively distribute them during the month.
Vincentporot
this pool: https://app.morpho.org/market?id=0xa59b6c3c6d1df322195bfb48ddcdcca1a4c0890540e8ee75815765096c1e8971&network=mainnet is not generating any Usual rewards for over 40 hours. Is anyone else having this issue? @Noรฉ @Mr. Lin
basedscarf
Wen #dating channel
Rodrigo
Admin should ban this person, this is irritating, don't you see here isn't a dating server, or are you just dumb? @Noรฉ pls ban this person
GALAXY | โ
Someone else I'm not interested in you, U just disturbing and this isn't a dating server this is for crypto/business
Video call
BingChilling
you get more usual but can get liquidated if in morpho and your liquidation will be usualx holder reward
Vincentporot
assuming I already been staking for over a month. If I add extra funds when do they start accruing rewards? @BingChilling
how about morpho?
BingChilling
u hold usd0++ also counted if you add LP in pendle you get usual and pendle
Vincentporot
Do Usual rewards start accruing right after I put in USD0++ or LP? @Noรฉ
Almost 1 month the price has dropped, no light at all, this project is killing itself, so stupid.๐๐ravished
Just chill and collect your revenue
Almost 1 month the price has dropped, no light at all, this project is killing itself, so stupid.๐๐BingChilling
U expect usual go againts btc/snp/nasdaq ? Blud this is defi not mircale worker
Jonathan
Almost 1 month the price has dropped, no light at all, this project is killing itself, so stupid.๐๐
: why dont you donate 1million dollar for loas angeles fire or 500k this will be a huge PR effect !!!BingChilling
Lol they already rich. Imagine u have a house in US Let alone in LA
kobbert
why don't you donate lol
Jayjay80
: why dont you donate 1million dollar for loas angeles fire or 500k this will be a huge PR effect !!!
i wrote a small analysis of the current opportunities around usual based on different scenarios, happy to have your thoughts ๐
https://x.com/zaklamedaille/status/1878436517082779701?s=46&t=azEhC_L6irqTC7esux7MigFadi
Well done Zak, nicely written. Usual should re-tweet it!
Zak
i wrote a small analysis of the current opportunities around usual based on different scenarios, happy to have your thoughts ๐ https://x.com/zaklamedaille/status/1878436517082779701?s=46&t=azEhC_L6irqTC7esux7Mig
So from my perspective, it looks like the @usualmoney present some interesting opportunities for โlong term investorsโ, especially for usualx holders, let me explain At current price, $USUALx gives 80%\+ \( I say \+ because all the PT usualx holders do not receive it\) in dividend
Twitter โข 01/12/2025 08:38:59 EST
BingChilling
Curve deposit and hold u get reward. U can check should show in earn page
Gunner funk
For usual rewards do we need to stake LP? Or just holding it wallet if is good enough?
Hey, in order to get the usual rewards on the LP USD0-USDC, do you need to deposit, or deposit and stake on curve ?Zak
Hey, in order to get the usual rewards on the LP USD0-USDC, do you need to deposit, or deposit and stake on curve ?
V1nn1
Hi. Why Pendle APY decreased in 10x?
5X leverage is insane manโฆ You shouldโve done more research about looping, leverage, USD0++โฆ
USD0++ was never meant to be pegged to 1$.
https://docs.usual.money/usual-products/usd0-liquid-staking-token/usd0++-floor-price
Virtus
Bro lmao
SatoshiXXX
There is no "have to", unless you already put into morpho, then you have to migrate it into the new vault
sebastien
we have to put usualx on morpho , is it true ? what is the problem ?
Nanobro
thank uu
JohnCarraway
Morning , is there a place where one can check the curent corcalution of usual tokens , burned ones and daily weekly issued ones ?
infinity91/ EremiticGang
Lo aggiorno da ieri sera ad oggi mi conteggia 150 usual in meno
Jonathan
Usual : when burn 10%
Buongiorno ho usualx in staking perchรฉ invece di aumentare diminuisce i miei usual?
Thomas
tutto quello che devi fare รจ aggiornare il tuo portafoglio, amico
infinity91/ EremiticGang
Buongiorno ho usualx in staking perchรฉ invece di aumentare diminuisce i miei usual?
I really start to think, people can not understand this just because of the name usd0++. Most people do not read the docshell0men
Most people don't read anything when they see 60% APY 
Gunner funk
Dis anyone try to short USUAL in Hyperliquid?
Tempz
Agree
5X leverage is insane manโฆ You shouldโve done more research about looping, leverage, USD0++โฆ
USD0++ was never meant to be pegged to 1$.
https://docs.usual.money/usual-products/usd0-liquid-staking-token/usd0++-floor-price
you realy should stop despising investors peopole that invest their hard earned money in thhis project
you promote a vault that in laveraged knowing that usd0++ will depegBingChilling
I mean binance provide futures. But losing money on 125x leverage ? Assume it stablecoin every stablecoin created in this have a chance to depeg. Usdt/usdc/dai/usde/ust Dont loop your hard earn money.
you realy should stop despising investors peopole that invest their hard earned money in thhis project
you promote a vault that in laveraged knowing that usd0++ will depegfredchan17999
USD0++ is never a stable coin bro, it never has anything called โdepegโ. I feel sorry for your lost but you should do deep research when putting your โhard earnedโ money anywhere. No one here is despising investors https://x.com/usualmoney/status/1878240849579934143?s=46
All Morpho markets have been assigned an appropriate cap, and all positions are eligible for migration to new markets\. Usual strongly encourages users to migrate their positions as soon as possible\. Rewards on old markets have been deprecated, and liquidations along with bad
Twitter โข 01/11/2025 19:41:29 EST
lanosss
Declare bankruptcy bro
yecine4686
you realy should stop despising investors peopole that invest their hard earned money in thhis project you promote a vault that in laveraged knowing that usd0++ will depeg
what you should know is that i heard about this vault in usual blog
i didnt know about it before
so the question is why usual is promoting this vault while they know that usd0++ will depeg ?
Usual Partners with Origami to Simplify 5X Leveraging on Morphofamousfxck
5X leverage is insane manโฆ You shouldโve done more research about looping, leverage, USD0++โฆ USD0++ was never meant to be pegged to 1$. https://docs.usual.money/usual-products/usd0-liquid-staking-token/usd0++-floor-price
yecine4686
what you should know is that i heard about this vault in usual blog i didnt know about it before so the question is why usual is promoting this vault while they know that usd0++ will depeg ? Usual Partners with Origami to Simplify 5X Leveraging on Morpho
famousfxck
Wow 5X leverageโฆ best to check with the platform youโre using
famousfxck
Couple times. Check https://dune.com/usual_team/usual
There is a 10% fee on the amount unstaked. This is partially redistributed to stakers and burned.Nanobro
has this ever been distributed yet? how often do we get distributed?
unknown l
10% unstaking fee but you can usually swap on secondary market at a ratio that includes accumulated rewards without any fee. Best place for that is Cowswap iirc
Thank you. Is there any way to avoid this fee (i.e. staying X amount of time, or something like that)?Noรฉ
On the primary market, there's currently no way of avoiding it. But, if the secondary market is better (there's pools on Uniswap), you'll be auto routed there and avoid the unstaking fee. Note that it could still be partially priced in the market rate tho.
There is a 10% fee on the amount unstaked. This is partially redistributed to stakers and burned.olimpio
Thank you. Is there any way to avoid this fee (i.e. staying X amount of time, or something like that)?
Noรฉ
There is a 10% fee on the amount unstaked. This is partially redistributed to stakers and burned.
olimpio
Noe, is there an unstake fee or any penalty / lockup for unstaking USUALx? @Noรฉ
yecine4686
hello i have a question about the rev switch yield now it is 4% a month will this yield go down when circulating supply of usual grow ?
Because i can exit at 100 cents when the unstaking option online?
And the underlying is 100 cents, 87cents is just a floor price for market movementGunner funk
You can get bigger share is usdo++ pool
SatoshiXXX
Because i can exit at 100 cents when the unstaking option online? And the underlying is 100 cents, 87cents is just a floor price for market movement
Alphonesse
So thats mean if $USUAL price dropped 20% we need to wait 20 weeks to recover the $?
cliff9077
Because you can gain high apy and everyone wants usd0++ at 0.9, fair value 0.87 is not trading value 0.9
Gunner funk
Why you want buy somthing at 90 cents which is worth 87 cents
t1notbot
Ofc. But u should start reading. It save ur money
SatoshiXXX
Exactly, im thinking of buying a bag of usd0++ at 90c per dollar. thoughts?
t1notbot
Read blog pls.
DrUky
01/11/2025 at 00:58:19 ESTNot sure to understand how it works. They set up a 1:0.87 ratio on the secondary market but they open early redemption at 1:1 next week. So we just have to arbitrate
Cortina
Did you sell all your USD0++ at .87?
BingChilling
to be fair i would like 1:0.1 redemption so i can buy more and guaranteed 10x when 4 years maturity lol.
DraKryZ
Short term issue โ Nothing more to talk about Waste of energy
DraKryZ
But you are actually thinking short term. Yes now today at this moment you lost money. But in a future short or long you will have more, since you obtain $USUAL and recover 1:1 over time.
And what would change to have a precise date ?
Like you would put your money like you did, and withdraw it the day before ?ANDRONYNE
01/10/2025 at 17:11:09 ESTYup. The whitepaper would say that 1-1 redemption would end and shift to 87-1 on January 9th, or even better, they would have been sold at 87 cents on the dollar like normal bonds. The date was vague to trick people man. No reason not to put it in the paper.
DraKryZ
And what would change to have a precise date ? Like you would put your money like you did, and withdraw it the day before ?
ANDRONYNE
01/10/2025 at 17:06:07 ESTTruth is, nothing. Can't do anything. Still upset by it. I will have to plot a path forward from here personally. An expensive lesson for me. You would probably chide me for being foolish, but we all have to start somewhere. I will have to be more careful in the future.
DraKryZ
Yes. Usual protocol is a big scam. We get your point. So now ? What you want to do ?
ANDRONYNE
01/10/2025 at 17:00:31 ESTYes, Usual protocol is totally honest and was transparent from the beginning! That's why they told users the exact date that the redemption switch would happen, and didn't short the hell out of it right before it happened! They truly are so good to us!
ANDRONYNE
01/10/2025 at 16:49:27 ESTDefi stablecoin pulls redemptions and users lose money. Crypto as usual
ANDRONYNE
01/10/2025 at 16:20:34 ESTExactly. To pull the plug on unsophisticated investors
ANDRONYNE
01/10/2025 at 16:14:00 ESTWhy was the actual date for 1-1 redemption for usd0++ not announced?
Evening , if I donโt stake till 1 February , I can stake and be elegible from arch for revenue sharing , I got it right ?JohnCarraway
Evening , if I donโt stake till 1 February , I can stake and be elegible from arch for revenue sharing , I got it right ?
๐ญ๐๐๐๐
lol
i stake 4880 tokens since saturday last week. how much coins do i get ca per week or per day and how much money will it be? is it also correct if less people stake their coins the APY is higher?
Proportion
Around $50 per week
๐ญ๐๐๐๐
i stake 4880 tokens since saturday last week. how much coins do i get ca per week or per day and how much money will it be? is it also correct if less people stake their coins the APY is higher?
kiratsunami
500usd if you don't re investit, if you do it's more 1% per week is APR it's going to be more because with the rev share the TVL and revenue gonna explode and with it the token emission will become scarce
NovatioLegis
I already have usual staking for 1 week. If I stake more today, will the total be eligible on Monday or just the part that has been staked for more than 1 week?
Proportion
1% per week sounds good If it stays the same most likely not Then its 500 usd0 per year
lirrboroncruiser
we are both right, i use total usualx instead of eligible bc i believe most of them will become eligible tomorrow
lauri
users forfeit a part of their accumulated USUAL rewards over a maximum period of 6 months to guarantee the 1:1 ratio -> Which APY will be used for this please??
Proportion
ty we can assume a little higher as protocols/contracts hold it and if $usualx holding decreases then ineligible. maybe 10 usd0 +
As far as i know, as long as you have USUALX in your wallet, you will get the rewards
Itโs okay, at least you donโt get panic like many ppl out there who doesnt understand the project
Cowboy James
Theyโre panicking because they want quick gains and no market fluctuations. Thatโs not reality. This is the first protocol of its kind that has RWAs backing it. When the big institutions hear about it, then they will want to invest their clients money in it. I donโt mind if they unstake and sell because that means a third of the distribution of their 10% unstaking fee will go back to us. I bought more at the lower price because I believe it will be going back up. Maybe some of these complainers will stick around to see USD0 (not to be mistaken with USD0++) eventually beat Tether.
Proportion
any math for weekly yield for usualx
fredchan17999
This was mentioned lots of time, the number on debank is correct, their dapp got a small bug on UI that will be fixed later
Dฦฐฦกng Gia Quรฝ
why my reward USUAL which checked by unstaking on usual.money is different debank?
0xMadoff
01/10/2025 at 11:54:47 EST0.87
SlattVision
01/10/2025 at 11:52:32 ESTHow much yall holding?
Autocompunding does not show any improved in usualx as per some number thing?I see only the remained the same when I staked.Deicide
They said there's a prob with ui from the site bro. It will get fixed. But debank works as mentioned above.
MthuraH
I got it
Autocompunding does not show any improved in usualx as per some number thing?I see only the remained the same when I staked.fredchan17999
It increases amount of Usual when unstaking, not Usualx, plz check on debank
MthuraH
Autocompunding does not show any improved in usualx as per some number thing?I see only the remained the same when I staked.
Deicide
Staked usualx auto compounds.
MYYJJPP
???
MthuraH
I bought at this month 7th Jan usualx is in that ,why not increased in me?
I accidentally bought some USUALx instead of buying USUAL and staking it to get USUALx. Does that mean I wonโt get the rewards?
@fredchan17999 Thanks! I found it. Sorry, Iโm a bit new to this.fredchan17999
As far as i know, as long as you have USUALX in your wallet, you will get the rewards Itโs okay, at least you donโt get panic like many ppl out there who doesnt understand the project
Cowboy James
I accidentally bought some USUALx instead of buying USUAL and staking it to get USUALx. Does that mean I wonโt get the rewards? @fredchan17999 Thanks! I found it. Sorry, Iโm a bit new to this.
eatprayield
The solution to revive Usual: Reduce T (180 days to 30 days temporarily) and set a higher redemption target. Then B (required Usual to return) would be lowered, making redemption costs drop from 13% to <3%, which will push the USD0++ price closer to peg status. The flywheel could only resume after that. There are no other options, as all LP pools are getting depleted by the team's unexpected decision today.
Yeah, thatโs kind of how Iโve been doing it too. But, Iโll have to go backward to find out how much I started with. I just remember how much USUALx I started with.fredchan17999
You can check it on your wallet transactions history bro, or debank also has a Transactions tab, check there for your USUAL/USUALX swaps
Cowboy James
Yeah, thatโs kind of how Iโve been doing it too. But, Iโll have to go backward to find out how much I started with. I just remember how much USUALx I started with.
fredchan17999
You will see your USUAL token amount increase time by time on debank bro You can do math by yourself base on that to get the actual profit
Cowboy James
DeBank only says the balance. How do I tell how much Iโve earned for staking?
I staked USUAL and got USUALx, but Iโm not see the daily return based on 200%+ APY. Like if had 12,000 USUALx at 200% APY, then Iโd expect to get around 65+ USUAL per day, but I not getting close to that. Am I not getting the right number of rewards? Or is my math wrong?fredchan17999
Did u check it on debank? Iโm still getting above 100USUAL per day Debank will show you correct number cuz dapp UI gets buggy and the team will fix later
Cowboy James
I staked USUAL and got USUALx, but Iโm not see the daily return based on 200%+ APY. Like if had 12,000 USUALx at 200% APY, then Iโd expect to get around 65+ USUAL per day, but I not getting close to that. Am I not getting the right number of rewards? Or is my math wrong?
nicolas1213
just look at the chart man
Abtiko69
Just a suggestion to the team many have been confused about the project or how staking works in USD0 and USUAL please make a youtube video about this explaining simply which can make people easily learn the projet. Most people just spout without knowing fully the project because they didn't read white paper or language barrier. Hope you make presentation video explaining. @Noรฉ
Grpprofesional
I mean people is going apeshit about usual but they never seen how trash tradfi is. "want safe return? Go deposit money on a bank at a 2.5-4 APY" "did I forget to mention that if the bank goes bankrupt you lose your money? Lol"
>be me
>tradfi invesoor
>want to have my money invested safely with guaranteed returns
>think.jpg
>buy USA treasury bonds
>maturity in T-20/30 years
>mfw
>nvm I'll go for Treasury Notes that mature faster
>maturity for Treasury notes T- 2/10 years
>being a tradfi investoor isn't ez
Grpprofesional
>be me >tradfi invesoor >want to have my money invested safely with guaranteed returns >think.jpg >buy USA treasury bonds >maturity in T-20/30 years >mfw >nvm I'll go for Treasury Notes that mature faster >maturity for Treasury notes T- 2/10 years >being a tradfi investoor isn't ez
Guys, in your analysis, what do you think is better: stake to get UsualX or to get USD0++?basedscarf
Depends if you want long term yield or short term trade sir
Guys, in your analysis, what do you think is better: stake to get UsualX or to get USD0++?
Nez
USUAL probably going much lower with TVL exodus, protocol shooting themselves in the foot and 3M+ emissions daily
NovatioLegis
Guys, in your analysis, what do you think is better: stake to get UsualX or to get USD0++?
yecine4686
Yes dont know why There is 20 million in this vault Half tvl of origami
Everybody is migrating from the current Morpho pool (lltv 86% hardcoded at $1) to the new Morpho pool which will be announced tomorrow. This is what origami is doing as well. If you need more information you should join their discord to ask the teamUsual
basedscarf
Everybody is migrating from the current Morpho pool (lltv 86% hardcoded at $1) to the new Morpho pool which will be announced tomorrow. This is what origami is doing as well. If you need more information you should join their discord to ask the team
yecine4686
Thanks But still dont understand Did the vault shut down ? Is it still generating yield?
yes on top of that you get usualx.
long term always win.
people that complain right now because they cannot loop morpho and dump usual every day without any riskGrpprofesional
Yes I was thinking on that rn. You get 15% profit on maturity + 3 years of USUAL yield on top of it and you can stake usual to usual.x for even more profit there's no downside here for the people who play the long game I think you said this some time ago "if you want to buy low and sell high in 2 weeks time, go to solana and pump memecoins, this is not that"
Deicide
If you want to long, short, hedge in one sleek package. I think some are pulling that off. For me, I don't mind doubling down. Less effort. More time for other things.
let's say the rev switch is on. How could i stake USUAL if i am not getting any USUAL tokens when staking USD0 for USD0++ when opting for a option?Deicide
You buy it during dips. Like now.
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matthias6763
Tuomas
tuomas_88887
Tuomas
let's say the rev switch is on. How could i stake USUAL if i am not getting any USUAL tokens when staking USD0 for USD0++ when opting for a option?
Now I'm running math
if we buy USD0++ at floor price
by 2028 it will be 1:1 right?
that's 15% profit over 3 years
how much APY is that?Now I'm running math
if we buy USD0++ at floor price
by 2028 it will be 1:1 right?
that's 15% profit over 3 years
how much APY is that?kiratsunami
that's 4% a year I believe
Grpprofesional
Now I'm running math if we buy USD0++ at floor price by 2028 it will be 1:1 right? that's 15% profit over 3 years how much APY is that?
deannguy3n
This is via secondary market
Can someone elaborate on the revenue switch
First, is the revenue switch going to be ON for a certain time period or until forever? I did not see this disclosed anywhere on the website.
Second, in the documentation two options for staking UDS0 are mentioned.
a) "The holder of the Liquid Bond can claim their yield daily in the form of USUAL tokens."
b) Guaranteed base interest: "The holder of USD0++ is guaranteed a yield equivalent at minimum to the yield of the USD0 collateral (Risk-free yield). To achieve this, the user must lock their USD0++ for a specified period. At the end of this period, the user can choose to claim their rewards in the form of USUAL tokens or the risk-free yield in USD0. " So basically if USUAL price increases then you should get the reward in USUAL instead of USD0.
Well, in the revenue switch site this is said: "100% of monthly protocol revenue will be distributed directly to USUALx stakers"
The question:
If an investor would opt for option a) when staking USD0 he/she would not get any yield as all distributed USUAL would go to USUALx owners as long as the revenue switch is on?Deicide
Why would you choose one when you get usd0 from staking usual after Rev switch?
Tuomas
Can someone elaborate on the revenue switch First, is the revenue switch going to be ON for a certain time period or until forever? I did not see this disclosed anywhere on the website. Second, in the documentation two options for staking UDS0 are mentioned. a) "The holder of the Liquid Bond can claim their yield daily in the form of USUAL tokens." b) Guaranteed base interest: "The holder of USD0++ is guaranteed a yield equivalent at minimum to the yield of the USD0 collateral (Risk-free yield). To achieve this, the user must lock their USD0++ for a specified period. At the end of this period, the user can choose to claim their rewards in the form of USUAL tokens or the risk-free yield in USD0. " So basically if USUAL price increases then you should get the reward in USUAL instead of USD0. Well, in the revenue switch site this is said: "100% of monthly protocol revenue will be distributed directly to USUALx stakers" The question: If an investor would opt for option a) when staking USD0 he/she would not get any yield as all distributed USUAL would go to USUALx owners as long as the revenue switch is on?
BingChilling
they pause move to new market with correct 0.87 floor
Grpprofesional
Origami imploded?
basedscarf
1:1 Early Unstaking USD0++ can be unstaked at any time before the early unstaking feature is implemented. Once launched, this feature will let users unstake their USD0 early by burning their accumulated USUAL yield. A portion of the burned USUAL will be shared with USUALx holders.
lauri
if I have been a holder only for a week, can i still be required to burn 6 months of USUAL rewards?
Can the USUAL burned at conditional redemption be more than what a user has received yield for the USD0+ staked until the unstaking point? Any contract address to point out for this?Mava (AI Support)
The amount of USUAL burned during conditional redemption is not necessarily more than the yield received for USD0+ staked. The minimum USUAL to be burned is 0, and the maximum is equivalent to 6 months of rewards. For contract addresses, you can refer to the Usual documentation for the Treasury's address: Usual Documentation.
Mava AI Betalauri
Can the USUAL burned at conditional redemption be more than what a user has received yield for the USD0+ staked until the unstaking point? Any contract address to point out for this?
basedscarf
Thats not true See:
Jonathan
Please tell me about usd0++ dump
Jonathan
Why usd0++ down?
Le Jacobin
Per qualche motivo, l'UI di USUAL a volte ti fa fare l'unstaking di USUALx direttamene sul mercato secondario e non ti chiede il 10%. Io sono riuscito a liberarmi di USUALx senza pagare nessuna penale di unstaking. Non saprei dirti il perchรฉ di questo redirezionamento sul secondario, ma provando diverse volte nell'arco di una mezz'ora circa di solito ci si riesce.
Mava (AI Support)
When you stake your USUAL, you do not immediately receive the 10% fees. The 10% unstaking fee is applied when you decide to unstake your USUAL. This fee is redistributed to those who remain staked, rewarding long-term behavior. Therefore, you would not be at breakeven just by staking; it depends on the rewards accumulated over time and the fees collected from others who unstake.
Mava AI Beta
Hey guys I am looking at the distribution of Usual rewards from teh proxy contract and I notice the numbers do not match the numbers in the docs. I assume as this is form the smart contract these are correct numbers?Mava (AI Support)
Yes, the numbers from the smart contract are generally considered the most accurate and up-to-date. Smart contracts are designed to execute and reflect the current state of the protocol, so they should provide the correct figures for reward distribution. If there are discrepancies, it's possible that the documentation hasn't been updated to reflect recent changes in the smart contract. Reference: 1
Mava AI Betakiratsunami
what does paused mean ? you can't leave your position ??? this should be illegal ?
cue
lol meanwhile me complaining for 1k
yecine4686
Origami
Bagus
Thanks yecine
yecine4686
I could not pick worse ๐คฃ๐คฃ
kiratsunami
Yassin you are rich lmao
Bagus
Which protocol paused?
kiratsunami
how much did you put ?
yecine4686
Slowly going to liquidation ๐คฃ
I cant ๐ญ Exit paused
The only advice i can give you is to not come close too risky
If we can not trust stable coin what can i trust
I think crypto is over for mekiratsunami
try selling now, and re buying when the price is peged to 0.87
Usual
yecine4686
The only advice i can give you is to not come close too risky If we can not trust stable coin what can i trust I think crypto is over for me
Kaleo
Try tomorrow
kiratsunami
bro can you explain Origami in private, I'm interrested but I'm a noob ...
It was a glitch on origami
Usual
FB
hi guys, i am new here, i have some doubts, who can help me?
yecine4686
I see that they paused exit
Now it is showing a yield of -63%
There is something wrong with origami maybe
The position on usual is also blacked
Sorry i freaked i will wait and see ๐ญ
Jen
Yeah.. it maybe
yecine4686
Because other vaults also does not show yield
It is maybe a glitch
yecine4686
Normaly 10% is needed to liquidate a 5x position
Only 3% depeg liquidate 5x position ?
Mava (AI Support)
The Origami USD0++ vault is designed to manage risks and maintain stability. Origami automatically rebalances vaults to keep them optimized and below the Loan-to-Value (LLTV) threshold, which helps in managing risks associated with depegging. However, like any financial product, there is always some risk involved, and extreme market conditions could potentially impact the vault.
Mava AI Betayecine4686
Can this depeg liquidate the origami usd0++ vault ?
Usual
J157yjelEr
I can help you fix it sir, if you want
Laironzorgan
Might be a glitch
boolean
It could probably be a glitch
yecine4686
I saw this morning that it contained 30 million
Kaleo
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yecine4686
Anyone knows if the vault got liquidated
Kaleo
Letโs wait for them to clarify this
yecine4686
This is what i see when i want to see my position
Usual
yecine4686
Yes i hope I just want my money back you can take the rewards
Kaleo
Obviously the team wonโt do that
yecine4686
Did you promote origami knowing that usd0++ can depeg ?
I heard about origami in your official usual website
Did usd0++ depeg more than 0.9 ๐ญ
It is 5x laveraged So theorically liquidation price is 0.9
I have 9k position this was my position yesterday
I have a position on origami 5x usd0++ I cant see my position anymore What happened I see that usd0++ depegged Did i get liquidated ๐ญ
JohnCarraway
What is the usualx supply now ?
JohnCarraway
Not yet , since I use only my phone , and itโs kinda hard to get a good view on a small screen
JohnCarraway
Where to check how much of total supply of usual is staked ?
JohnCarraway
Where to check how much usual is staked ?
basedscarf
@Mava (AI Support) give me the mathematical equation with all variables etc
Mava (AI Support)
The APY for USUALx can be estimated based on the proportion of USUAL staked in the system and the 10% distribution right. The APY is influenced by the amount of USUAL staked and the rewards distributed to USUALx holders.
Mava AI Betabasedscarf
@Mava (AI Support) pls give the equation for staked usualx apy
basedscarf
They were asking about the revenue switch. Afaik dividend will be only paid out in usd0
So it will be similar to stocks where you activate drip, only diference you can chose where rewards go, right ?Mava (AI Support)
Yes, it's somewhat similar to a DRIP (Dividend Reinvestment Plan) in stocks, where your rewards are automatically reinvested. However, with Usual, you have the flexibility to choose how your rewards are distributed, either in USUAL tokens or a stable 'minimum' yield paid in stablecoin.
Mava AI BetaJohnCarraway
So it will be similar to stocks where you activate drip, only diference you can chose where rewards go, right ?
When revenue swich happens , should we claim the usd0 reward ? To exchange it for more usual or to lock onto usd0++Mava (AI Support)
When the revenue switch is activated, the revenue will be distributed directly to USUALx stakers. You can choose to claim your rewards in USD0 and then decide whether to exchange it for more USUAL or lock it into USD0++. The choice depends on your investment strategy and goals.
Mava AI BetaJohnCarraway
When revenue swich happens , should we claim the usd0 reward ? To exchange it for more usual or to lock onto usd0++
Noรฉ
it doesn't say much boss, USUALx gets 10% of the emission, that's what matters, the 200% APY is just because few people stake so there's bigger rewards for each USUALx
JohnCarraway
I was making an asumption if apy stays the same on 200%
my best guess to the current price of usual is the market doesn't understand it. I am trying my best to find the holes, the rev share was VERY clever. Who is coming up with these ideas?Noรฉ
Yeah current market price is imho absurd (my own personal opinion), but the whole market trend doesn't help lmeow (tradfi is also dumping). As for the ideas, we have a full time quant team (4 people) boss!
ravished
my best guess to the current price of usual is the market doesn't understand it. I am trying my best to find the holes, the rev share was VERY clever. Who is coming up with these ideas?
so worst case scenario TVL remains at the level it was when locked for 4 years and we still don't hit 4 billion in four yearsNoรฉ
Yes
The only factor that could make the supply 4B or more is if the T-Bills yields is higher than the initial rate, following a decision of the FED. As per predictions, that's highly unlikely because Usual was launched with historically very high t-bills rates, but let's say it does. Well, the DAO can adjust its variable factor so the Minting Factor aligns again with the previous ratios.
ravished
so worst case scenario TVL remains at the level it was when locked for 4 years and we still don't hit 4 billion in four years
Noรฉ
Even if it doesn't: 4B is the maximum supply even if we loose most of the TVL as per our simulations.
ravished
either way your equity in the revenue stays the same
if TVL goes up fast enough?
Noรฉ
it's actually probable that we don't even reach 4B in supply
even if the emission in absolute number of $USUAL stays the same, it means that over the time the % minted is actually lower since supply increases.
ravished
I suppose if TVL stayed the same so would emissions
That makes sense but @JohnCarraway was showing usual doubling each year, I was trying to explain that emissions would not double each year because of an increased TVLNoรฉ
What parameters did he take into account..? same TVL, higher TVL?
Yes, higher TVL means less $USUAL minted (and so, rewarded).
But remember, $USUAL is minted depending on the Revenue, meaning, it has clear traditional finance metrics such as Earnings per Token and P/E.
So, when emission go down because TVL goes up, it means that less USUAL is now minted for more revenue, increasing each token's implied value (higher EPT). So, the dollar value of each token should be higher over the long term, translating in a higher APY (in $USUAL) although emission is lower.ravished
That makes sense but @JohnCarraway was showing usual doubling each year, I was trying to explain that emissions would not double each year because of an increased TVL
Noรฉ
In any case, higher TVL means higher APY for USUALx through the revenue-sharing (higher TVL = higher revenue fully redistributed). Again, this mean each USUAL has an increasing implied value because it rewards more when staked.
Noรฉ
Yes, higher TVL means less $USUAL minted (and so, rewarded). But remember, $USUAL is minted depending on the Revenue, meaning, it has clear traditional finance metrics such as Earnings per Token and P/E. So, when emission go down because TVL goes up, it means that less USUAL is now minted for more revenue, increasing each token's implied value (higher EPT). So, the dollar value of each token should be higher over the long term, translating in a higher APY (in $USUAL) although emission is lower.
ravished
if USD0 TVL goes up Usual APY AND USD0 APY go up?
Noรฉ
No, both would go up sir
not true, absolute value of $USUAL rewards goes down, but the dollar value of them should go up as their implied value is higherravished
Usual APY would go down while the USDO APY would go up?
Noรฉ
not true, absolute value of $USUAL rewards goes down, but the dollar value of them should go up as their implied value is higher
Deicide
Mass adoption is good for business.
If people opt out from the epoch by unstaking, their rewards go the the full epoch holders.
JohnCarraway
Would not more usage of usd0 mean more fees , and thus more rewards ?
Ok got it
So basically if you hold long term your usualx it should go 10k invested , after 1 year at 200% apy 30k, second year 90k , third year 270 k?ravished
yeah but the APY goes down as TVL on USD0 increases
JohnCarraway
So basically if you hold long term your usualx it should go 10k invested , after 1 year at 200% apy 30k, second year 90k , third year 270 k?
Gunner funk
Yeah easy money righttt
ravished
by year two you may have double the staked usual and double the income, and likley a much higher value token price
here is the strategy for income from rev switch. Buy usual, stake it, cash out the USD0 into your bank, stake the new emissions. That is the alpha at 1.62x FDV/TVL
basedscarf
They auto compound, no claiming
JohnCarraway
What happens if I claim them
I see there is claim rewards , if I donโt claim rewards from usualx , do they autocompoundJohnCarraway
I see there is claim rewards , if I donโt claim rewards from usualx , do they autocompound
Mava (AI Support)
No, when you stake USUAL, the conversion rate is not 1:1. The spread between 1 USUAL to 1 USUALx is because USUALx acts like a vault-share, which is proportional to your share of the rewards.
Mava AI BetaJohnCarraway
If I stake usual do I get 1 to 1 usualx?
Mava (AI Support)
Yes, the USD0 stablecoin from Usual is fully backed 1:1 by Real-World Assets like US Treasury Bills. This ensures that USD0 is a stable and secure asset within the DeFi ecosystem. Reference: 1
Mava AI BetaJohnCarraway
Is usual token baked by us T bills ?
I , if I stake usual , it says apy 215% . And revenue swich apy 55% . Does it mean I will be getting % from staking usual + rewards collected from usd0?Mava (AI Support)
Yes, if you stake USUAL, you will receive the APY from staking USUAL, and the revenue switch APY indicates additional rewards collected from USD0.
Mava AI Beta
JohnCarraway
I , if I stake usual , it says apy 215% . And revenue swich apy 55% . Does it mean I will be getting % from staking usual + rewards collected from usd0?
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ananasbrb
not accurate
What was the very first price of USUAL on binance or on dexes like uniswap? @Mava (AI Support)Zak
bro just open coinmarket or trading view and unzoom lmao
What was the very first price of USUAL on binance or on dexes like uniswap? @Mava (AI Support)ananasbrb
What was the very first price of USUAL on binance or on dexes like uniswap? @Mava (AI Support)
ananasbrb
Hey @Mava (AI Support) what was the issue price of USUAL?
the issue price on TGE - was it 0.6?
LavaLittleBird - Chasing
01/09/2025 at 04:27:15 ESTMe personally think the price might hit 0.6200
ananasbrb
so have we hit the bottom?
CMJ | Plume Moderator
01/09/2025 at 01:41:35 ESTIt changes from time to time @677
677
So the final prize is changed daily? Not fixed?
Base on official usual application webpage, it shows the APY currently at 216%. If i commit holding for exact a year from this day, can APY dillute accordingly total Pool?Mava (AI Support)
Yes, the APY can fluctuate based on various factors, including the total amount staked in the pool. As more participants join the pool, the APY may decrease due to the distribution of rewards among a larger number of participants.
Mava AI Beta677
Base on official usual application webpage, it shows the APY currently at 216%. If i commit holding for exact a year from this day, can APY dillute accordingly total Pool?
On which time frame? Day week month?@Mava (AI Support)
Mava (AI Support)
Yes, the APY can change when a major portion of USUALx is staked. If a high percentage of the supply is staked, the rewards are shared among more participants, which can dilute the rewards and affect the APY.
Mava AI Beta677
Does the APY change drastically when major portion of usualx are staked?
Neckbeardius
ty
Deicide
There was a lot of dialogue about this earlier in general If you want more deets.
Neckbeardius
ahh thats good and bad I guess lol..
Mava (AI Support)
The Revenue Switch is exclusively available to USUALx tokens held in addresses accessible to end-users. This means revenue distribution applies only to non-aggregated positions, such as those not via Morpho or Pendle.
Mava AI BetaNeckbeardius
How will the revenue share work with the UsualX Pendle Pool
LouaNN-
@Mava (AI Support) can you details the steps
Mava (AI Support)
You cannot directly buy USUALx on Binance. To acquire USUALx, you need to first purchase USUAL tokens on a DEX or CEX and then stake them through the Usual dApp to convert them into USUALx.
Mava AI BetaLouaNN-
@Mava (AI Support) how do buy UsualX from Binance plateform ?
ky
@Mava (AI Support) wasnt it locked until 1-3 months post launch?
ky
if i deposit today in the berachain vault, am i getting any yield? @Mava (AI Support)
ky
@Mava (AI Support) when will the berachain launch?
ky
is berachain vault active right now? @Mava (AI Support)
ky
when will the berachain mainnet launch ๐ @Mava (AI Support)
Sammyy
There must be a flaw within this, the trading of usual simply beat the core objective or the purpose of usual, if usual price is too volatile
But if the trade of profit and loss is so huge, the revenue generated from staking means nothing
But apparently the market is manipulated by trading, why would ppl wanna trade usual and sell if the return of staking is so good
Noรฉ
Itโs not because circulating supply is lower that volume goes down and becomes easily manipulated
if majority of USUAL is on staked, the price of the USUAL on trading will be dictated by whales or someone who really owns alot of USUALNoรฉ
Nope thatโs not how it works
Sammyy
the current staking cant even recover the loss from the USUAL value..
they will decide the price of USUAL if they choose to dump it
if majority of USUAL is on staked, the price of the USUAL on trading will be dictated by whales or someone who really owns alot of USUAL
i have a question
Mava (AI Support)
Stakers of USD0 receive rewards in the form of USD0++, which is a liquid staking token. The rewards come from the yield generated by the underlying real-world assets (RWAs) backing the USD0 stablecoin, such as U.S. Treasury bills. Additionally, USD0++ holders can earn rewards in USUAL tokens, which are distributed as part of the protocol's governance and yield mechanisms. References: 1,2
Mava AI Beta
Gui
How do you pay people who stake, where does the money come from? @Mava (AI Support)
Gui
ok ok
Oni
Anual
Gui
this apr is monthly?
Oni
Sorry
Gui
ohhh im sorry i don't see
Noรฉ
Portuguese channel can be accessed through # ๐ใlanguage-select
Noรฉ
Yeah but this channel is in English
mas em imagens do prรณprio site de vocรชs mostra que toda a receita vai para o tesouro do protocolo entรฃo onde vocรชs conseguem garantir receita para o protocolo continuar @Mava (AI Support)Mava (AI Support)
A receita do protocolo Usual รฉ gerada principalmente atravรฉs dos ativos do mundo real (RWAs) que respaldam o stablecoin USD0. Esses ativos, como os tรญtulos do Tesouro dos EUA, geram fluxo de caixa que รฉ acumulado no tesouro do protocolo. Alรฉm disso, o crescimento do Valor Total Bloqueado (TVL) e as receitas do protocolo tambรฉm contribuem para o fluxo de caixa futuro. Assim, mesmo que toda a receita vรก para o tesouro, ela continua a crescer e a sustentar o protocolo. Reference: 1
Mava AI BetaGui
mas em imagens do prรณprio site de vocรชs mostra que toda a receita vai para o tesouro do protocolo entรฃo onde vocรชs conseguem garantir receita para o protocolo continuar @Mava (AI Support)
Gui
mas em imagens do prรณprio site de vocรชs mostra que toda a receita vai para o tesouro do protocolo entรฃo onde vocรชs conseguem garantir receita para o protocolo continuar @Mava (AI Support)
Mava (AI Support)
A receita do protocolo Usual Money vem principalmente dos rendimentos gerados pelos Ativos do Mundo Real (RWAs) tokenizados, como os tรญtulos do Tesouro dos EUA, que respaldam a stablecoin USD0. Esses ativos oferecem seguranรงa e oportunidades de rendimentos aprimorados, que sรฃo entรฃo distribuรญdos entre os usuรกrios atravรฉs de mecanismos de governanรงa e rendimento.
Mava AI BetaGui
@Mava (AI Support) de onde vem a receita do protocolo
Gui
relax bro we are talking between us๐
Noรฉ
Gui
hmmm pode cre n cheguei a ver esse board
Oni
Foi num board que um dos integrantes aqui publicou
verdade eles tbm geram receita de taxas, mas รฉ isso msm eles dรฃo essas recompensas em usual acho que pra incentivar a galera a ter o token e tbm pq as recompensas em stake sรฃo colocadas junto do que ja ta em stake juros compostos e talsOni
Sim, e deve ter a relaรงรฃo tambรฉm com a SEC por nรฃo distribuir valor em si (dรณlares). ร que eu pensei ter visto a possibilidade de recebimento em UDS0 Com um yield fixo de 7%
Sim, mas vem das taxas tambรฉm. A minha questรฃo era quanto a ser dada em usual em si e nรฃo como por ex na Gm X que รฉ em weth ou outras que conseguem dar yield em Stable (que seria o ideal)Gui
verdade eles tbm geram receita de taxas, mas รฉ isso msm eles dรฃo essas recompensas em usual acho que pra incentivar a galera a ter o token e tbm pq as recompensas em stake sรฃo colocadas junto do que ja ta em stake juros compostos e tals
Oni
Sim, mas vem das taxas tambรฉm. A minha questรฃo era quanto a ser dada em usual em si e nรฃo como por ex na Gm X que รฉ em weth ou outras que conseguem dar yield em Stable (que seria o ideal)
Gui
eles usam como colateral pra estabilizar as stable coins, e tambรฉm geram os yields/receita em cima disso
Gui
vem a partir dos titulos do governo irmรฃo
Oni
Por toda parte
Gui
oloco defizero aq
Oni
Mas a mava jรก dรก mastigado
Sim
DS
esta tudo nos papeis bro
Mava (AI Support)
Il 10% di commissione per l'unstake si applica sempre quando si effettua l'unstake di USUALx. Tuttavia, per USD0++, non viene applicata questa commissione. Assicurati di controllare quale asset stai cercando di unstake.
Mava AI Betainfinity91/ EremiticGang
Perchรฉ a volte non mi chiede il 10% per unstake?
Mava (AI Support)
A fonte de receita do protocolo Usual vem de ativos do mundo real (RWAs), como tรญtulos do Tesouro dos EUA, que sรฃo tokenizados e usados como colateral. A receita gerada por esses ativos รฉ distribuรญda entre os detentores de tokens USUAL, que representam a propriedade do protocolo e estรฃo diretamente ligados ao crescimento e ร receita do protocolo. References: 1
Mava AI BetaOni
qual a fonte de receita do protocolo?
a receita do protocolo se baseia em que?
Mava (AI Support)
As recompensas do USD0++ sรฃo geradas na forma de tokens $USUAL. Esses tokens sรฃo baseados na receita do protocolo e oferecem exposiรงรฃo ao crescimento atravรฉs de um mecanismo desinflacionรกrio.
Mava AI BetaOni
As recompensas de USD0++ sรฃo geradas a partir do que?
mas de onde vem estas recomepensas? a receita da usual vem de onde?
Mava (AI Support)
As recompensas de USD0++ sรฃo distribuรญdas em $USUAL, que รฉ um token baseado em receita. Para USUALx, as recompensas sรฃo refletidas diretamente no valor do USUALx, que atua como uma participaรงรฃo em um cofre, e nรฃo aparecem como 'Recompensas Pendentes'.
Mava AI BetaOni
de onde vem as recompensas de USD0++ e de UsualX ?
Mava (AI Support)
O USD0 รฉ totalmente lastreado por ativos do mundo real, como Tรญtulos do Tesouro dos EUA de curto prazo. Esses ativos sรฃo obtidos atravรฉs de repos de um dia, aderindo ร polรญtica de risco rigorosa da Usual. Reference: 1
Mava AI BetaOni
quais tipos de titulos a usual utiliza como lastro para o USD0?
Mava (AI Support)
As recompensas do USUALx sรฃo autocompoundadas, o que significa que elas sรฃo automaticamente reinvestidas no seu saldo de USUALx. Vocรช pode sacar suas recompensas a qualquer momento, mas isso envolve o processo de desestacar (unstake) o USUALx.
Mava AI BetaOni
e se eu acumular usualx ? posso sacar as recomepensas?
Oni
se eu acumular USD0++ posso sacar as recompensas ?
Mava (AI Support)
No, when the Revenue Switch is on, the revenue distribution is exclusively available to USUALx tokens held in addresses accessible to end-users. This means it does not apply to aggregated positions like those in Pendle LPs.
Mava AI Beta
DS
when revenue swtich is on... LP on pendle will receive shares?
0xFar5eer
They say that your deposit becomes smaller but you get more in usual rewards to cover this loss. You need to claim your usual for APY.
23123
01/07/2025 at 10:23:06 ESTok,thanks
Mava (AI Support)
Yes, you can earn income by holding USUALx. When you stake USUAL into USUALx, you receive a share of the emissions of new $USUAL tokens. This means that regardless of whether you buy USUALx directly or obtain it by staking USUAL, you will be eligible for the same rewards.
Mava AI Beta
23123
01/07/2025 at 10:22:29 ESTCan I get income by holding Uxualx, whether I buy it directly or stake it with USUAL, because I see that UXUALX obtained through the two is merged on the official website
unknown l
lot of tokens are extremely volatile, drop hurts but project fundamentals are great when you look at TVL and imminent stablecoin revenue - anyway better in # ๐งใspeculation
Mava (AI Support)
The price of a token like $USUAL can drop quickly due to several factors such as market volatility, changes in demand and supply, or external economic conditions. Recovery depends on various factors including market sentiment, strategic decisions by the Usual protocol, and broader economic conditions. It's important to stay informed about the protocol's updates and market trends.
Mava AI BetaMava (AI Support)
USD0++ holders receive rewards in the form of $USUAL tokens. The rewards are calculated based on the staking duration and amount. The APY (Annual Percentage Yield) is used to estimate the rewards, which can be converted to the spot price of $USUAL. For a more precise calculation, you can use the Pendle calculator to simulate the amount of $USUAL you will receive by the maturity date. References: 1
Mava AI Betaky
what rewards and how is it calculated? @Mava (AI Support)
Mava (AI Support)
The 3x Veda rewards in the Berachain vault refer to the multiplier effect on the rewards you earn from Veda Labs. This means that the rewards you receive from Veda Labs are tripled, enhancing your overall yield from the vault.
Mava AI Betaky
on the berachain vault what does the 3x veda rewards mean
basedscarf
usual dapp
godwodan
Are pendle usualx yt trash now?
yecine4686
Hello When having a usd0++ position on origami Where can i see the rewards ?
rAiiNbOwZz/Mike
Nothing. Rev switch will come february 1st
Mo
Scam, you will receive an fraudulent email asking to connect your wallet, if you do you will lose all your staked usual and other cryptos in your wallet
Oni
Nรฃo consigo compreender o que seria melhor, Holdar UsualX ou USD0++. Qual seria para ter em carteira por longo prazo atravessando ciclos atรฉ. Se o Yield pago vai se manter.
unknown l
that's an error, it's not providing pills anymore it'll be providing the usual rewards for holding USD0++. You could go and ask Veda about it but it's def just them not updating the dashboard image/description
Mava (AI Support)
Usual Pills are pre-launch points that users can earn through various activities within the Usual protocol. These points determine the amount of $USUAL tokens you will receive during the airdrop. The Pills program is designed to reward users who contribute liquidity during the bootstrapping phase of the protocol. By collecting Pills, users will receive a percentage of the airdrop based on the number of Pills accumulated during the pre-launch period. Reference: 1
Mava AI Beta
MorningPhoenix
why is veda still providing usual pills within the usual stable vault ?
i am having a hard time with th emeaning of th efee switch , berachain, vbeda , ertc...Mava (AI Support)
It seems like you're asking about several terms related to Usual's DeFi protocol. Here's a brief explanation: - Fee Switch: This likely refers to a mechanism where fees are applied or adjusted, possibly in relation to transactions or services within the protocol. - Berachain: This is a blockchain ecosystem that Usual is integrating with, offering opportunities for yield and rewards. - vBeda: This might be a specific token or feature within the Usual or Berachain ecosystem, but I would need more context to provide a precise definition. If you have more specific questions about these terms, feel free to ask!
Mava AI BetaMorningPhoenix
i am having a hard time with th emeaning of th efee switch , berachain, vbeda , ertc...
so why is veda still providing pills ?K
didida
1
unknown l
usual pills are from the airdrop campaign last year, no longer relevant
MorningPhoenix
SATOSHI ... please be serious
Usual
SatoshiXXX
Something to help with your morning glory
Mava (AI Support)
Choosing between PT (Principal Token) and LP (Liquidity Provider) in Pendle depends on your investment goals. Holding LP-USD0++ allows you to earn both Pendle and $USUAL rewards, but it comes with market volatility risks. On the other hand, holding PT-USD0++ provides a fixed APY with USD0++ as the reward at maturity, without $USUAL rewards. Consider your risk tolerance and reward preference when deciding.
Mava AI Beta
FlAmEnInJa
Which one is the best for USUALx - PT or LP in Pendle?
basedscarf
the art of folding paper
zks9614
01/06/2025 at 23:18:39 EST็ฐๅจๆๆไบบๆฐๅฐๅๆฏๅคๅฐๅข
zks9614
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BigDickBandit.hl
Release more coins Iโm acooomulating
Mava (AI Support)
xUsual is primarily used within the Usual ecosystem for staking and earning rewards. It represents a staked version of USUAL, allowing holders to earn a share of the protocol's revenue. However, specific use cases or platforms where xUsual can be utilized outside of staking are not detailed in the available documentation.
Mava AI Beta
Trinidad JC
Anywhere to use xUsual?
MorningPhoenix
what is origami
basedscarf
start here @barka1484 ๐
barka1484
So many messages, lol
basedscarf
scroll up
barka1484
Any interesting strategies?
BingChilling
Yes this tiny brief and liquidate over leverage position if using flash loan to borrow
unknown l
sure team would work to avoid it though
because it is 100% backed with the highest quality and most liquid assets in the world. But USD0++ depeg could be larger because theoretically it is meant to be locked over 4 years, so a 20% discount wouldn't be economically 'wrong' in the same way
usd0 depeg would be tiny and very brief
you would get liquidated on a depeg of usd0++ (which isn't even really a depeg because usd0 is the stable, ++ is 4 year locked)BingChilling
Depend on how much leverage. Depeg can happened. Usd0 will repeg again fast. But your position can be liquidated during depeg event. There some protocol offer insurance but need to check origami
unknown l
you would get liquidated on a depeg of usd0++ (which isn't even really a depeg because usd0 is the stable, ++ is 4 year locked)
basedscarf
u should check out their gitbook . lots of info there
for the usd0++ vault it's 5x bcs of the LTV settings of morpho in this pool.
but there are other vaults with e.g. 11xBingChilling
Any liquidation price? If usd0 depeg?
unknown l
sorry you can only stake usual on ethereum, iirc you can use USD0 and ++ on arb but not usual
unknown l
the bot is wrong
basedscarf
for the usd0++ vault it's 5x bcs of the LTV settings of morpho in this pool. but there are other vaults with e.g. 11x
javibus
But I'm in the Usual interface to stake USUAL and it asks me to switch to Ethereum. How to stake USUAL con Arbitrum?
one more question :
is origami just taking advantage of protocols like Morpho, from what I understood it's just borrowing and re injecting the borrowed to get more yield
right ???basedscarf
correct. they are using external money markets like morpho, spark, ..
javibus
Great!
javibus
Hello! Is there any posibility to hold or stake USUAL on some L2? Or only on Ethereum?
kiratsunami
can you choose the leverage ? or its always a 5x
one more question :
is origami just taking advantage of protocols like Morpho, from what I understood it's just borrowing and re injecting the borrowed to get more yield
right ???Mava (AI Support)
Yes, Origami simplifies the leveraging process on Morpho by automating the borrowing and reinjection process to maximize yield. It reduces what used to be multiple transactions into a single one, saving on gas fees and optimizing the process.
Mava AI Betakiratsunami
one more question : is origami just taking advantage of protocols like Morpho, from what I understood it's just borrowing and re injecting the borrowed to get more yield right ???
basedscarf
yes
wdym? the yield is being paid in $usual. can be claimed on usual money dapp.
ori points is for origami TGE which will be on berachain afaikkiratsunami
ok fair enough then so you have usual + ori points good
basedscarf
wdym? the yield is being paid in $usual. can be claimed on usual money dapp. ori points is for origami TGE which will be on berachain afaik
basedscarf
yes. but the cost to unwind the position is 0.5%
kiratsunami
also they aren't live yet, the yield is being paid with their token right ?
kiratsunami
can I enter whenever I want and exit whenever I want ?
borrow APY is 21%
What does it mean ?
I will put USD0++ as collateral and have USDT and with this USDT I will get exposure to more USD0++
This is the looping, and this is the leverage x5 they are talking about ?basedscarf
yes
borrow APY is 21%
What does it mean ?
I will put USD0++ as collateral and have USDT and with this USDT I will get exposure to more USD0++
This is the looping, and this is the leverage x5 they are talking about ?Mava (AI Support)
The borrow APY of 21% means that if you borrow USDT using USD0++ as collateral, you will pay an annual interest rate of 21% on the borrowed amount. The looping and leverage x5 refer to a strategy where you use the borrowed USDT to buy more USD0++, which you then use as collateral to borrow more USDT, repeating this process to increase your exposure to USD0++. This strategy effectively multiplies your initial position by five times, hence the term 'leverage x5'.
Mava AI Betabasedscarf
and vault price goes down because of the looped position. but you receive 5x the daily usual rewards than holding USD0++ spot
kiratsunami
borrow APY is 21% What does it mean ? I will put USD0++ as collateral and have USDT and with this USDT I will get exposure to more USD0++ This is the looping, and this is the leverage x5 they are talking about ?
basedscarf
because it is a vault share.
basedscarf
any questions?
kiratsunami
origami is still not comprehensible for me ...
Hello, is there any way to swap on the Ethereum network paying less fees? I want to swap ETH for USD0 but the fee is absurdMava (AI Support)
Unfortunately, the fees for swapping on the Ethereum network are determined by the current gas prices, which can be quite high. One option is to wait for a time when the network is less congested, as this can lead to lower gas fees. Alternatively, you could consider using a layer 2 solution like Arbitrum, which allows for transactions at a lower cost after bridging from Ethereum.
Mava AI BetaSaitamaXXX
Hello, is there any way to swap on the Ethereum network paying less fees? I want to swap ETH for USD0 but the fee is absurd
Einzig
only pendle
Einzig
no choice
BRNDN
Huh?
Hey guys. Where can i put my UsualX to farm other protocols simultaenously?
SatoshiXXX
Good job bruh
unknown l
this is great ty
basedscarf
check out my thread: https://x.com/basedscarf/status/1876046605520150722?t=ttfLHgf5ED3f4aF9JURErA&s=19
\.@usualmoney is the stablecoin to watch for 2025\. I am observing a rapid increase in demand for 5x looped USD0\+\+ on @origami\_fi\. \(they call it "folding"\) 1/4
Twitter โข 01/05/2025 18:22:20 ESTbasedscarf
idk
ky
@Mava (AI Support) do i get same rewards depositing usd0 versus usd0+ in berachain vault?
i buy usual through binance wallet and staked them by usual money app ๏ผhow can i get my data from coinbase walletMava (AI Support)
To access your data from Coinbase Wallet, you need to ensure that your Coinbase Wallet is connected to the Usual Money app. If you are having trouble connecting, please note that Coinbase Wallet is mobile-first, so it might be easier to connect through the Coinbase Wallet app on your mobile device.
Mava AI Betaalluring_sparrow_79038
i buy usual through binance wallet and staked them by usual money app ๏ผhow can i get my data from coinbase wallet
Mava (AI Support)
Boosted rewards in the Berachain context refer to additional incentives or rewards that participants can earn by engaging with the ecosystem. These rewards are typically given on top of the usual yield or returns and are designed to encourage more participation and liquidity provision within the Berachain ecosystem.
Mava AI Betaky
@Mava (AI Support) what does the boosted rewards mean in the berachain
@Mava (AI Support) what is the benefit of staking in berachain vaults vs staking usd0++ directly on usualMava (AI Support)
Staking in Berachain vaults allows you to earn USD0++ APY along with additional ecosystem rewards from platforms like Berachain, Dolomite_io, KodiakFi, and Veda_labs. On the other hand, staking USD0++ directly on Usual provides yield in USUAL tokens, which are distributed as rewards. Both options offer unique benefits, with Berachain vaults providing a broader range of rewards and Usual focusing on USUAL token yield. References: 1
Mava AI Betaky
@Mava (AI Support) what is the benefit of staking in berachain vaults vs staking usd0++ directly on usual
SatoshiXXX
Do we have to claim it? Or is it automatically transferred to our wallet?
basedscarf
rev switch in form of usd0 dividend for usualX stakers
@Mava (AI Support) What will happen on January 7th? Everyone is saying that those who have usualx will be rewarded, by how much?
Mauricio
@Mava (AI Support) What will happen on January 7th?
@Mava (AI Support) What will happen on January 7th? Everyone is saying that those who have usualx will be rewarded, by how much?Mauricio
@Mava (AI Support) What will happen on January 7th? Everyone is saying that those who have usualx will be rewarded, by how much?
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@Mava (AI Support) How can I earn more USUALX through Ethena? Which are the best strategies to boost my staked USUALX?Balalaika
@Mava (AI Support) How can I earn more USUALX through Ethena? Which are the best strategies to boost my staked USUALX?
Ww
Will there be ios or android app
Emp
@Mava (AI Support) u told me yesterday the opposite
Mava (AI Support)
Yes, as a YT-USUALx holder, you will be rewarded from the revenue switch. The revenue switch mechanism will redirect the treasury as dividends to USUALx holders, ensuring that users must stake USUAL to claim economic value when the revenue switch is activated.
Mava AI BetaEmp
@Mava (AI Support) as a YT-usualx holder, will I be rewarded from the revenue switch
Does it include YT-usualx holders too?
Ww
Is there a plan to release ios app?
Mava (AI Support)
Yes, as a YT-USD0++ holder, you will be rewarded from the revenue switch. The revenue switch mechanism is designed to redirect treasury earnings as dividends to USUALx holders, which includes YT-USD0++ holders.
Mava AI BetaEmp
@Mava (AI Support) as a YT-usd0++ holder, will I be rewarded from the revenue switch
Noรฉ
lmeow
so before it was like in negative
Noรฉ
The calculation method yes, before it was still in "Pills Campaign mode", didn't integrate the actual USD0++ APY
basedscarf
the apy?
Noรฉ
( @basedscarf )
not sure if it's because of that
They updated the UI recently
basedscarf
๐ฎ
@Mava (AI Support) explain the origami_fi integration to me. Why is Origami picking up in TVL so rapidly lately (see image attached)?Mava (AI Support)
The Ethena integration involves several key components: USDtb is used as new collateral for USD0++, a common vault is established where users can earn yield from both Usual and Ethena, and a 1:1 pool is created between USDtb, USD0, and sUSDe. This partnership enhances composability, yield opportunities, and liquidity within the DeFi ecosystem.
Mava AI Beta
Vladut | Argent
01/05/2025 at 15:55:07 EST@Mava (AI Support) what is the ethena integration?
Mava (AI Support)
The minting rate \( M_t \) is calculated using the formula: \[ M_t = \min \left( M_0 \times S_t \times R_t \times \gamma_t, \kappa_t \right) \] Where: - \( M_0 \) is the initial minting rate. - \( S_t \) is the supply factor, which inversely adjusts the minting rate as the supply of USD0++ increases. - \( R_t \) is the rate factor, which directly adjusts the minting rate based on changes in the interest rate. - \( \gamma_t \) is the growth control variable, allowing the DAO to adjust the minting rate. - \( \kappa_t \) is the cap factor, setting a maximum limit on the minting rate. The supply factor \( S_t \) is calculated as: \[ S_t = \min \left( \frac{\text{Supply}++_0 \times P_0}{\text{Supply}++_t \times P_t}, 1 \right) \] This equation shows that as the Total Value Locked (TVL) in USD0++ increases, the supply factor \( S_t \) decreases, leading to a lower minting rate \( M_t \), thus fostering scarcity.
Mava AI Betakiratsunami
@Mava (AI Support) explain in math equations how is minting rate related to TVL
Mava (AI Support)
The Ethena integration for Usual LDT is expected to be live in early 2025. The exact date is not specified, but it should be operational after the holiday season.
Mava AI Betabasedscarf
wen will the ethena integration for usual LDT be live? @Mava (AI Support)
basedscarf
wen will the ethena integration for usual LDT be live?
Hey @Mava (AI Support) please analyse this statement:
USUAL fee switch in 2 days, here is a simple strat to make it bullish:
1) Deposit $1.83B in sUSDe
2) Mint $1.83B of YT and PT sUSDe to earn 30x rewards per YT (6 times more than holding it naked)
3) Earn $219M from 12% yield + $97M of ENA rewards on Mar 23
= 181% APR real yieldbasedscarf
Hey @Mava (AI Support) please analyse this statement: USUAL fee switch in 2 days, here is a simple strat to make it bullish: 1) Deposit $1.83B in sUSDe 2) Mint $1.83B of YT and PT sUSDe to earn 30x rewards per YT (6 times more than holding it naked) 3) Earn $219M from 12% yield + $97M of ENA rewards on Mar 23 = 181% APR real yield
Mava (AI Support)
The inflation of USUAL in the first year is not fixed and depends on several factors. The emission model of USUAL is designed to promote scarcity and align incentives for early adopters and long-term holders. The minting rate is influenced by the Total Value Locked (TVL) growth, specifically USD0++ denominated TVL, and changes in interest rates of assets backing USD0. The emission rate decreases as the USD0++ supply grows, and it adjusts based on interest rates to maintain fairness for users. The minting rate is capped to prevent excessive emissions, ensuring that inflation does not lead to dilution. References: 1
Mava AI Beta
NN
How Much Usual will inflate in first Year ? How it calculated
Phoenix
01/05/2025 at 08:14:52 ESTdoes the usual earned from staking usd0++ get autostaked ?
AM
Scammers donโt take it as an opportunity to start sending me DMs, you idiots.
AM
Can any human suggest best strategies on external platforms? Thanks
Mava (AI Support)
To earn from USUALx, consider the following strategies: 1. Staking USUAL: By staking USUAL, you receive USUALx, which gives you governance power and economic rights, including a share of the protocol's revenue. 2. Long-term Holding: USUALx is designed for long-term holders, as it auto-compounds rewards and benefits from the redistribution of fees from short-term users. 3. Participating in Governance: Use your USUALx to participate in governance decisions, which can influence the protocol's future and potentially increase your rewards. 4. Benefit from Fee Redistribution: As other users unstake and pay fees, a portion of these fees is redistributed to remaining USUALx holders, increasing your yield.
Mava AI BetaAM
Hi, what are some of the best strategies to earn from USUALX?
I have usualx and have connected the app.usual.money to my wallet but I'm not seeing any rewards yet?Mava (AI Support)
USUALx works as a vault share, meaning rewards are reflected directly in its value. Unlike USD0++ rewards, they donโt appear as 'Pending Rewards.' To view your rewards, simulate an unstake: the withdrawal amount will include your rewards (minus a 10% unstaking fee). Essentially, your vault share increases in worth over time, allowing you to withdraw more than you initially deposited.
Mava AI Betaballlysss
I have usualx and have connected the app.usual.money to my wallet but I'm not seeing any rewards yet?
Lucky Boy
Staking
Mava (AI Support)
To earn on USUAL, you can hold USD0++ which allows you to earn USUAL token rewards daily. Additionally, you can stake your USUAL tokens into USUALx to gain an immutable right to 10% of the emission of new USUAL tokens and other rewards. This staking also provides governance rights and a share of unstaking fees.
Mava AI BetaWw
What is the best way to earn on USUAL
Mava (AI Support)
When you stake USUAL into USUALx, you receive a 'share' of the staking rewards. Over time, this share allows you to withdraw more USUAL when unstaking, reflecting the accumulated rewards.
Mava AI BetaWw
What is the form of rewards from stacking USUAL into USUALx?
Ww
Are they accumulated into USUALx ?
Just stacked my USUAL into USUALx in app.usual.money, do i need to visit app daily to claim rewards?Ww
Just stacked my USUAL into USUALx in app.usual.money, do i need to visit app daily to claim rewards?
Neckbeardius
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How are the pending rewards used by our protocol if left unclaimed. Does it just remain in the TVL? If already answered, sorry lol.Mava (AI Support)
Unclaimed rewards typically remain within the protocol's Total Value Locked (TVL), contributing to the overall growth and security of the protocol. This helps in maintaining the protocol's financial health and stability. Reference: 1
Mava AI BetaNeckbeardius
How are the pending rewards used by our protocol if left unclaimed. Does it just remain in the TVL? If already answered, sorry lol.
Mava (AI Support)
The value of the rewards for USUAL is based on the APY, which can change over time. The rewards are distributed according to the current rewards rate, and the maximum amount of USUAL to be returned is 180 days' worth of the current rewards rate. The minimum is 0, depending on the weekly outflow of TVL compared to the target allowed net outflow.
Mava AI Betaravished
Do we have any idea the value of the rewards?
How long is the beravault available?
Hektor X
01/04/2025 at 04:15:47 ESTok thank you both. ๐
BingChilling
yes but cant right now wait in this week then
yes your usual accure you can claim when veda update their UI for u to claim
so you claim in veda not in usualHektor X
01/04/2025 at 04:14:45 ESTapp.veda.tech?
BingChilling
yes your usual accure you can claim when veda update their UI for u to claim so you claim in veda not in usual
Hektor X
01/04/2025 at 04:13:48 ESTcan i leave it as it is?
BingChilling
veda prioritize it next week for you can claim usual
BingChilling
u cannot claim
Hektor X
01/04/2025 at 04:10:01 ESThow update?
it is just this
Hektor X
01/04/2025 at 04:05:24 ESTwhen and where can i claim?
Mava (AI Support)
Once you've staked your USD++ into the Bera-Vault, you will earn the USD0++ APY in $USUAL. You will need to claim these rewards directly on Veda. There's no need to do anything else unless you want to manage or withdraw your stake.
Mava AI BetaHektor X
01/04/2025 at 04:03:55 ESTHello All, i have staked some of my USD++ into Bera-Vault. Do i have to do anything else?
I have a question there is this quant chicken in youtube that does choose wether stock/coin go up or down and chicken is correct 50% of the time. Does this mean that quant chicken is better analyst than 80% of wallstreet trader?
0xMuun
any thoughts on holding USUALx vs. buying Pendle PTs?
SatoshiXXX
Are you talking about USD?
JayPowell
Amazing, tks.
JayPowell
So, no rewards are shown on Pendle dashboard?
Guys... hello! Please, just to make sure: the YT-USD0++ rewards are claimable direct from Usual website?JayPowell
Guys... hello! Please, just to make sure: the YT-USD0++ rewards are claimable direct from Usual website?
IMO the emission rate is designed to maintain a decreasing stock price earning ratio given usual price fixed. Naturally usual price will increase if the market price its value based on PER unless TVL drop a lot.kiratsunami
now i get it
kiratsunami
actually that's badasss lmao
IMO the emission rate is designed to maintain a decreasing stock price earning ratio given usual price fixed. Naturally usual price will increase if the market price its value based on PER unless TVL drop a lot.kiratsunami
I'm going to ask chatGpt and re read the whitepaper to be able to understand this ... this looks like chinese ...
this is the liquidity already available without the need to actually redeem on the MMF's side - note that there's more of it onchain, this dashboard only shows the one already in the redeem smart contract (*Teller*)
flyingfish
very interesting ๐
Noรฉ
this is the liquidity already available without the need to actually redeem on the MMF's side - note that there's more of it onchain, this dashboard only shows the one already in the redeem smart contract (*Teller*)
@flyingfish you can check the instant redemption capacity for the USYC part of our backing here: https://usyc.hashnote.com/
Noรฉ
You're welcome sir!
would also refer to this message: https://discord.com/channels/1106588534871179280/1107144153076347022/1324699393609306164
flyingfish
ok thanks for your answer!