0xjmslnr
The future is in 48h 😄
lil m
got it, so usd++ holders their yield from hashnote is now 100 percent directly going to the treasury correct? and xusual are not getting that entire pie, but may in the future see some of that back into their token ?
The Southerner
I believe that even with 4B tokens, The real market cap should be more than 10B
I suggest to fix the trading volume with 1k to get those gamblers out of the USUAL hhhhh😂
unknown l
which given tvl is stupid cheap
it highlights that the true usual mkt cap is way lower than the max supply 4bil tokens, it's much closer to the circulating mkt cap displayed on places like coingecko
Noé
USUAlx holders would receive part of the revenue generated by the full supply, as it currently only accumulates in the DAO's Treasury
unknown l
i am happy to inform you that the 1D timeframe trend is now bullish
JazzySt
It is related to the market and very undervalued because of the idiots on binance
Klinta
Yeah people are getting ready to price the 7th in
ruskit.
Breakout, pump incoming
JazzySt
lol
The Southerner
The time machine has not been invented yet, no one knows
The Southerner
What do you mean
yns94
Bro how can you invest in a project and at the same time piss on it😂😂😂
famousfxck
BTC needs to break 99K$
And not just hit X$ target and go down again lmao
But everything depends on how long we hold certain levels
1.20$ would mean high odds for a new ATH
1.10$ would be a great first break out target
Lucky Boy
K kenneth
famousfxck
Yep also that
Past 4H candles is bullish
Rage4lyf00
BTC is cooperating ser
famousfxck
But yeah like I’ve mentioned over here. It’s due to pump now
famousfxck
Need to see 1.1 break first
Lets not get to euphoric 😭
Lucky Boy
He is so brave going against the waterfall
yns94
Can we touch 1.1 before the 7th plz🙏🙏🙏
Yi Long Max
$1,45 retest, so prepare your hard dic*s to break da fook out of this level
Lucky Boy
Im hoping 1.4 that good place to start
7th January + 2B TVL
Fernando Bu
01/05/2025 at 14:45:44 EST🤣
Lucky Boy
Hahaha
Jesus christ guys
cue
i hope it will become stable at 1.5 tho :((
Lucky Boy
Common guys stop pegging usual 1:1 with usdc lol
cue
lol?
lil m
this means usd++ holders dillute actual xusual holders
lil m
how though , the 2 should be correlated, otherwise this flywheel will likely not work
lil m
in this case xusual holders dont see much benefit from usd++ supply going up right? Since its not getting any yield from there.
Lucky Boy
This is the price of fdusd when you selling it after launchpool hahah stop this
lil m
@Noé curious if you can clear this up?
lil m
if this is the case then how is the projected usd0 revenue for xusual holders now around 40 percent apy? Since usd0 only has around 260 million not staked in usd++. this would mean xusual holders would earn real yield over only this 260 million? this would not add up to 40 percent apy in that case at all?
cue
yeah we doing it rn
Lucky Boy
Whats happening here lol you peg usual token to usd 1:1 lol hahahah
lil m
the mint rate is at 3.1 now. what will the mintrate be when it reaches the market cap of dai?
thanks
got it
lil m
i thought usd++ holders had to opt to earn the real yield from hashnote or choose to earn usual correct? if they want to earn usual instead the real yield goes to xusual holders correct?
Noé
and the docs
Would advise to read: https://usual.money/blog/usual-where-yield-meets-growth#detailed-distribution
lil m
so usd++ holders are momentarely getting the dillution apy of usual + protocol revenue that is hold in treasurys?
lil m
@Mava (AI Support) do xusual holders als earn the usd++ yields? or only the usd0 yields? Since usd++ yields are being payed out in usual instead of the treasury bills
Yi Long Max
fantAaaastek
Yi Long Max
u makin a bizinez 😁
cue
i'm buying on 0.999 and selling on 1.001
cue
Usual is becoming more stable than ever lol
Yi Long Max
cmon baby
unknown l
so close now
today we reclaimed key 4H trend levels + flipped several 1H ones, just need to sit over 1.03 to also fully flip the daily trend and we'll be ready to go
7th January is also an important day for USUAL
Accumulation should be finished by now (hopefully)
We have just passed 16 days since USUAL hit 1.65$
It took us 16 days to go to a new ATH
Okay so last time during premarket
Emp
So holding a YT usualx doesn’t seem too smart post this revenue switch?
Emp
@Mava (AI Support) What counter measures are in place while apy falls
Emp
@Mava (AI Support) If TVL increases and revenue is high, what will happen to usual apy
yns94
To much trading today
Idk i need sleep i think
unknown l
what happened to this guy?
unknown l
reprice to fair value
unknown l
it's happening
Rage4lyf00
Always been
! KekiusMaximus
is anyone looking for a dev?
famousfxck
New ATH incoming
Emp
What happenes to apy? Goes down right?
famousfxck
Btw here we go, another rally
unknown l
didn't even realise we were close to over it tbh
or at least if I'm collecting an extra 40% in stables I'll be more relaxed
yns94
Under 1$ again….
unknown l
save us rev switch
famousfxck
True I agree
unknown l
sitting below with it building as resistance is not ideal
unknown l
which is why I do feel a lot better above 1
famousfxck
Now we’ve got resistance at 1$ 🥲
I just unstake
esco
Oh ok
Fernando Bu
01/05/2025 at 11:22:50 ESTI believe that if we reach 2.4 bi tvl token will easily go to 2$
7th we have fee switch wich means more tvl
tvl increasing everyday
tbh we are thinking too much
famousfxck
34% are being staked as of now
The increase of USUAL being staked
esco
What increase?
ravished
From when to when?
Stake usual for usual emissions at 265% short usual perps and make the spread.
ravished
Its not risk free. I should rephrase, it's delta neutral
Fernando Bu
01/05/2025 at 11:03:36 ESTLmao what the f are you saying? 250% apy risk free?😂
famousfxck
Lmao did you see the increase in USUALx?
Acemint
Is the cycle of a daily reward different for each account?
louixiii
When will people stop hedging
Usual
Fernando Bu
01/05/2025 at 10:56:45 ESTWe already understand that you guys just bought at 1.6, but keep saying bad things about the project won't help
Fernando Bu
01/05/2025 at 10:55:32 ESTIf TVL increases and emissions go down, USUAL became more valuable, right?
Fernando Bu
01/05/2025 at 10:55:12 ESTIf TVL increases, then USUAL emission will go down, right?
I'd people stake heavily, then TVL will increase, right?
Fernando Bu
01/05/2025 at 10:54:40 ESTIf the rewards are so attractive, people will stake heavily, right?
ravished
Not with $1-3 million daily emissions. All the new supply is being sold for that trade.
Acemint
What are some possibel causes of a pending reward that is supposed to be pushed to my wallet does not come through?
unknown l
that's the point of delta neutral
it doesn't
if people buy spot and short on perps why does this keep the price low?
unknown l
this makes no sense
BingChilling
Im stupid bro i keep swap my pendle fee into usualx
Godralho
It’s stupid not to hedge at this phase
ravished
Delta off at 250% is asymmetric and the trade is preventing usual from going up because of the short positions
ravished
We need a god candle of 20% to liquidate 5x leverage short hedges before they can rebalance
How can usual go up if short funding rates are so low on binance. Why stake for a risk return when you can deltra neutral and get 250% apy risk free?
Lucky Boy
Yfi is the first to hit 90k usd
famousfxck
Yes
Emp
Via their revenue
Emp
Bein paid for holding usualx?
unknown l
yeah
e3ky
btc was the first. now we have plenty of tokens
Rafael
Is it worth exchanging USUAL for USUALX?
unknown l
killed the whole project
yeah that's why btc price never went up, crazy high emissions in the early years
e3ky
with all the rewards in USUAL which are sold on exchanges I don’t see how USUAL token prise can go up
Rafael
Normally on Sundays it drops... I think it drops to 0.90 today
famousfxck
Inshallah
yns94
Crazy dream but not impossible, 1.8 end of the week
Lucky Boy
1.3 kenneth at 1.3
unknown l
where's the big short liq range?
famousfxck
Yup
Fernando Bu
01/05/2025 at 06:32:44 ESTWe only touch this price if some manipulation happen. Market usually precifies good news before they became a fact Until now, it don't precified the fee switch and TVL increase
famousfxck
They can do whatever they want with the USD0, but it will atleast reduce the sell pressure more
famousfxck
Yup
Godralho
0.8-0.9 biggest liquidation range
Gunner funk
If people stake usdo earned from usualx for usdo++ things can get interesting
famousfxck
That’s when the flywheel effect should start
Hopefully the feature on 7th January will makes us bounce from these levels
There’s a lot of supprt on these levels
Anyway we bounce from these 0.9X$ levels or rip more down
unknown l
or if you want to look at immediate liquidity you would just look at 1) tokens held on CEXs and 2) onchain DEX liquidity
i would say the 500m are available to be bought/sold, but 35% are staked so you could say only 325m are
unknown l
well i'm saying it depends on how you categorise the staked coins, because in one sense they aren't available to trade (and not at all on any CEX) but actually you can swap usualx for any other token using a DEX as easily as swapping usual
JazzySt
Dang when I put in an order at 0.925 then the price slowly goes up haha
Lucky Boy
Hmm gpt 4 is stupid hahaha
BingChilling
We have 30+% stake for usual Doesnt make sense
Lucky Boy
Ok let me do some research this interest me
BingChilling
Nah i dont think this is right
Lucky Boy
So more or less 500m is available to be bought?
Davinor
I think there should be more, Binance holds a lot, but if you consider them to be "locked"
Lucky Boy
So usual currently as of now hs more or less 24m coins available to be bought?
unknown l
just checking it and it does, their circ supply = tokens outstanding - staked team and investor tokens (because they are locked)
would be a godo idea
Lucky Boy
Ok thanks man
unknown l
for the wallets, you can see those on places like arkham or nansen (and fully for free on arkham iirc). Maybe there is a website or tool that aggregates them all but i've not seen it
unknown l
i think current circ supply, at least on coingecko, includes staked tokens already
Lucky Boy
And when liquidity is low price goes up?
Lucky Boy
I guess the easiest way is (circSupply + stakedTokens) - totalSupply?
Lucky Boy
Maybe someone already created a metrics lile this before though not forbthis coin in particular. But that means you need to have list of cex and dex wallets eh?
Or has ownership
Lucky Boy
Yeah thats is what confuses me because in the metric i will assume staked coins is already bought
unknown l
unless you want to just get full liquidity in which case it would half of the liquidity in all DEX pools (other half is the other token) and you could probably include all tokens held on any CEX as well
unknown l
outstanding shares would be equivalent to the circulating supply, I guess assuming circulating supply excludes staked tokens
Lucky Boy
Thanks ill just try to gpt it
Lucky Boy
Yeah but in etherscan we can see how many wallets holding right and how many are still in usual.money wallet? Im i getting it correct?
BingChilling
no idea in dex it depend pool also in binance we can only see bid
Lucky Boy
Like how many coins have been sold to someone and how many are available to be bought
Lucky Boy
In stocks we call it outstanding shares
Lucky Boy
No not that i want to create a metric of number of xoins available for liquidity
The liquidity
Lucky Boy
I mean current number of coins liquid available to be bought
BingChilling
maybe token that stake ? if holding in exchange u can see some people trade usual not particular stake it
Lucky Boy
Bro stupid question. where can i find the info of number coins that is not sold
Retest
Lucky Boy
Thanks man
Lucky Boy
He is retesting
Lucky Boy
@Mava (AI Support) is the dividends daily?
Lucky Boy
@Mava (AI Support) is the fee switch dividends added directly in the usualx
Lucky Boy
@Mava (AI Support) how does the fee switchbrewards users
BingChilling
and we doing fee switch after in 7 jan less than 1 month.
BingChilling
lets be real here ena launch in march and they propose fee switch in november and not even have schedule yet
BingChilling
I mean u cant compare vaporware with real product.
0xjmslnr
No time to relax in crypto 🤣
BingChilling
bro tge not even 1 month yet and launch during christmas. relaxx they already partnership with berachain and tvl ath
Usual
0xjmslnr
and we should get DAO governance asap, so teams could get community grants to help them to build products
Would increase USD0 TVL much faster, and get Usual even more attractive
Usual Labs should work on a lending/borrowing product already where for example UsualX holders would get ETH0, BTC0 rewards for example
Lucky Boy
Your asking if usd0 will be a trading pair in exhanges?
0xjmslnr
I'm talking about a product roadmap, this roadmap is too vague
unknown l
that's being sorted it in the next couple of weeks
Klinta
About a millionth time this question has been asked, check debank brother or troubleshooting
unknown l
roadmap
0xjmslnr
I know it's Christmas time but it's been already like 3 weeks, and staking UI is still confusing for average Joe 🤔
Carl
Hey all, I have some usualx token but I dont get any rewards
0xjmslnr
Usual Labs need to release a roadmap and products using USD0
Lucky Boy
The option is to wait for it to bubble and wait for the frc situation when the rates are fuked up
BingChilling
tvl already ath back to pre matrix trying to depeg usd0
BingChilling
there will be $2b tvl bullpost later on u just wait. and mcap will follow to $1b bullcase 80% tvl = mcap fair value 50% tvl = mcap below that is undervalue
Godralho
The option would be rugging whales money and share with stakers lol
0xjmslnr
An option could be a whale dumping Usual rewards to convert it to USD0, so USD0 TVL keeps increasing 🤔 that woud be the "best" scenario, or just a whale farming rewards...
Lucky Boy
@Godralho it really is 00:30 going forward is the range of the dump
0xjmslnr
like quick estimation if USD0 TVL hit 10B, according to how fast it does it Supply Growth: 6-month scenario: 500M → 846M (69% increase) 2-month scenario: 500M → 587M (17.4% increase)
Lucky Boy
Yeah its j powells money printer
BingChilling
usd0 tvl is infinite same like usd supply
Lucky Boy
Its good to hedge but this is not the area to do it
0xjmslnr
yes and no, max supply is 4B correct, but doesn't mean that we would have ever 4B token in circulation supply, it really depends how fast USD0 TVL increase in the next few months (it could be less than 1B in 2028 for example)
Lucky Boy
Bahahahahahha you always make me laugh man
Lucky Boy
The hedge has more return than you infinite money glitch a little risky though
BingChilling
people hedgoor with short. i'm swap my pendle reward to usualx lmao
BingChilling
why u asking ?
Godralho
Mine is like 0.9
Nice avg price man
Lucky Boy
But ill do nothing
Lucky Boy
Not too late my average buy is .3
louixiii
Moon
BingChilling
Moon
Godralho
Too late to hedge bro
Lucky Boy
Too much selling pressure bro
Godralho
Makes sense
Lucky Boy
When usual offers nore product that people will use then naturally it will rise
Nothing just more people buying and staking
Godralho
I am curious what trigger will make USUAL squeeze sh*t ton of green candle
Lucky Boy
@Mava (AI Support) can a market maker go bankrupt? Lol
I think so
Godralho
Is that time reward claim time?
Lucky Boy
Ill do nothing ill sit this 1 out
Yeah
Godralho
1 hour ago?
Lucky Boy
It was on 00:30 cst
Godralho
I think when it hits $1, people are rushing into to borrow Usual to sell lol
Lucky Boy
Ill hedge 1 above
Nah ill do nothing i changed my mind
Noni changed my mind ill do nothing
Godralho
Let's see if I can see your order
Lucky Boy
Let me sell some now
Godralho
It's pretty intresting it can go down with this amount of volume
Lucky Boy
Most probably borrow sell
Lucky Boy
Im not sure man. It could be futures long i dont know
Godralho
Around this time, dump always happend
Godralho
Do you think people borrow Usual to sell?
JazzySt
Gm ☀️
louixiii
We reclaim $1 then go $2?
louixiii
I hope usual can be like ENA
Lucky Boy
It will try to combat the token dump today?
Godralho
Yes
louixiii
Your mean usd0 tvl?
Godralho
Why not, if USUAL hit TVL of 30~50B
louixiii
That would be 40b fdv
Godralho
Very impressive what USDe achieved
Can't wait to see USUAL to hit 10b TVL
Lucky Boy
I mean what a wonderful technology is to memorize your secret key delete the app delete everything and you can just store you money in your brain
Godralho
Since I beleive Defi, I am so bullish on ETH, SOL too
Agreed.
Lucky Boy
I mean theres a lot of idea but number 1 is regulation first
Lucky Boy
Then somebody would develop some for granny
yeah but its all about self custody
Godralho
Grannys will never use defi
But defi is way better than banks for sure
For me it will exist together
Lucky Boy
Defi is the future
I mean who needs banks right?
Godralho
And my neighbours didn't buy crypto yet
Lucky Boy
The technology is still not yet adopted mainstream
Godralho
I agree. There is no sign for bubble at all with on chain data ATM
Lucky Boy
There not even a regulation clarity with coins in the US
Godralho
Came back to the crypto 2023
Lucky Boy
theres no bubble yet
Godralho
I existed everything Feb, 2021
Let's see, I have a tendency to exist a little bit earily than others
Lucky Boy
Meh people will just be shorting usd dollars and more capital would be put in crypto etfs
Godralho
This is the narrative that forces not to sell for the people IMO
Lucky Boy
Its just like buying nvidia in 2023
meh blackrock and microstrategy will just be buying more and others company will begin to follow suit digital capitalization
Godralho
For me, I am planning to exit before April
2022,2023, maybe 2024 was good time to buy
Lucky Boy
Nah this year people will be taken in deep waters and discover themselves
Godralho
Buying year is over
I believe this is year is to sell the crypto
Lucky Boy
Sell in may and go away
Nah it will not go down there this week
Godralho
It is very very weird feeling on Usual : Looking at the chart : this is going all the way down to 0.5~0.6 Looking at the on chain data : The most bullish and undervalued token in the crypto WTF lol
Godralho
There must be something
Lucky Boy
Good
Godralho
TVL is all time high
Usual minting rate keeps falling down..
Lucky Boy
Check the daily its good
Godralho
It's weird that all indicator shows improvement of USUAL itself and price doesn't move and people are pissed
Lucky Boy
Its god mode on infinite money glitch
Lucky Boy
Why not that what i will do
Godralho
You think MM is also usd0++ whale?
Lucky Boy
Its his money printer
Lucky Boy
I have an idea. He has huge staked usd0++
Godralho
Their bags around 50~100k
I don't know how he does that
Lucky Boy
Good
Yes he can i think he has infinite coins
Godralho
Some of holders in Korea left unfortunately today
I think mm can make USUAL 1.6 very easy since volume is too low
Lucky Boy
Cant shake anyone now eh?
Godralho
If it goes up, I will not buy and enjoy the rally, goes down, more USUALs in my pocket
Lucky Boy
It would be nice on the top
Godralho
I would like to add USUAL to be honest but there might be a chance for me to buy chepaer in the near future
Lucky Boy
Good seems it wilk go up tongiht then
Godralho
too many tokens are on my eyes
Lucky Boy
Y
Godralho
Did you mean my watchlist? to buy ?
Lucky Boy
To someone?
Or yet to be sold
How many is the current outstanding token without ownership?
Godralho
Yes hyperliquid for now it became way cheaper
Lucky Boy
Do you have a rough estimatr of the outstanding tokens?
Godralho
At the end of the day, if you believe ususal will hit way higher than now…. It is matter of how many tokens are in my pocket
It is free accumulating usual tokens for me
Yes I am a holder of UsualX
Lucky Boy
Do you have stake also usualx?
Godralho
Yes while patient ususalx holders are waiting for $10per usual , ususalx holders are accumulating their tokens for free!
Lucky Boy
I would not make a hedge for all coins maybe 1/3 so i have profit to eat at buffet
I think overtime the staked usualx will overcome the emission being sold
Godralho
After fee switch, usual becomes decentralized stock imo lol
But for the long term, it is very nice news
Godralho
Yes because when the good news that everybody knows and expects something more, normally sell the news event occurs
Lucky Boy
I will have a good night sleep today
louixiii
Do you think Jan 7 is the sell the news event?
Lucky Boy
The chart looks bullish to me
Godralho
The chart looks verrrrry weird
I am paying attention to the direction after this consolidation phase
Lucky Boy
I think it was being forced an hour ago but failed
Godralho
4hours candle chart shows down trend for short term is done for now but who knows it will keep going down or not
Lucky Boy
Ill let my chicken choose which direction and pray
Godralho
The market direction is not decided yet for Usual IMO
Yeah good time to do scalping trading
Lucky Boy
That mean apy theta wins
Godralho
Low volume and high volatility. Interesting
Lucky Boy
Sideways is always good the ladies prefer thst position
Godralho
Seems like we would do the side ways
Lucky Boy
Not at this price borrow sell should in the 1's
Godralho
It is their estimation in regards to rarity of Usual token which doesn’t mean it must be priced in the market
They will never ever say about price predictions
Lucky Boy
My indicator is the hedge returns are diminishing
Godralho
Technically not
louixiii
What leads to Usual price go up
louixiii
So they are lying to us
Lucky Boy
The hedge returns are diminishing
Godralho
Usd0 seems to be growing good
Lucky Boy
Its the stakers not the stakes
Godralho
Yeah and usual stakers is smaller atm
Lucky Boy
The stakes are getting bigger
Godralho
Well the bigger usdo the rarer usual will be -> it’s not true. Market will decide if it is rarer or not
0.9 which is 60% capitulation with TVL all time high
Lucky Boy
But the returns are diminishing
Godralho
Doesn’t matter how the TVL goes. Scarcity of usd0 is bigger than when usual was at 1.6
Lucky Boy
When it goes up you got an spectacular way to exit. Then on the downside you make nice profit
Godralho
If it skyrockets you win small but when it tanks, you don’t lose
Godralho
When you hedge you always win
Lucky Boy
Imean .4 .5 .6 is really a nice slide down. I would be scared to lose those profits eh?
Godralho
Holding high apy asset without hedging is you don’t buckle up when you drive on the highway
Alexanderz🍀
Is that he never lose ?
Lucky Boy
I know what your thinking, i think you are a very smart person and thats exactly whats on my mind right now haha
Godralho
You can close hedge at least those yellow line
Lucky Boy
Its the frequency man you gotta be in the same frequency everything vibrates
Godralho
That's the reason I am telling you guys to hedge
Gunner funk
It's a self fulfilling prophecy
Godralho
It will never go up without liquidating those 0.87~0.91 line
Alexanderz🍀
Any HFT bot can use ?
Gunner funk
You can't throw around 0.6 like that and not pay me my royalty
Godralho
Liquidation is incoming bruh
Lucky Boy
I mean if a chicken is 50% correct all the time in choosing the direction that means its better thab 80% of the traders in the street eh?
Lucky Boy
That what my quant is saying. It doesnt hold tru all the time
Godralho
0.6 is confirmed
Godralho
Seems like 0.6 is the first path before 1.7
Alexanderz🍀
I think it never back to 0.6 again
If he holding 0.6 just cool
Godralho
Well, always be careful with leverage I think sell pressure is way higher than buy ATM
BingChilling
it wait people to give up and capitulate first
I think Usual coin scammed me as it has remain 0.9539
BingChilling
yes taking hedge is the matrix bro think he is smart but everybody does that lmao
Lucky Boy
Protective collar
BingChilling
be the contarian you will rich
BingChilling
take somerisk 20000 usual leverage buy
Godralho
10000 usual spot buy + 1x short for 10000 usual = you never loose money
260% apy is 20% roi per month
Lucky Boy
Captured pilot sends morse code in camera thru blinking.
Lucky Boy
Its + and -
Lucky Boy
If you cant read between the lines bro up to you.
When i say its that time of the day then you do it. Then when i say anything with the word gift then you do it
Lucky Boy
Dont wanna talk about it im happy and content now i made some profit in upside and downside volatitlity
Lucky Boy
I think that way too before the fee switch now we have few switch it good now
I hope we go green today in the daily
I like this small pump
SatoshiXXX
Ban him or at least mute him
SatoshiXXX
Can someone tackle this guy ffs? Whining every single day about the protocol but lurking inside this community
Fernando Bu
01/04/2025 at 22:07:09 ESTWhat is the minimum value usual minted per usdo can reach? @Mava (AI Support)
Fernando Bu
01/04/2025 at 22:06:30 EST3.2 USUAL per USD0 will this amount decrease? @Mava (AI Support)
Fernando Bu
01/04/2025 at 22:03:37 ESTBtw what is ena APY and daily emissions?
Godralho
But I am okay with the price $1 with 260% apy which is 20% roi per month
Godralho
Many people think that usual holders became the liquidity exit for Usd0whales
Gunner funk
You might want to set one at 0.6
Godralho
How big are you betting on Usual?
famousfxck
And we have lots of new stuff incoming
Usual is the best stablecoin product at this moment
It will go up regardless
Lmao no need to pray
Fernando Bu
01/04/2025 at 21:38:39 ESTSo now, we just need to pray for TVL keep increasing
famousfxck
That’s what’s the DAO for
But we will get it in other ways
famousfxck
Not exactly
louixiii
@Mava (AI Support) When do you see price of Usual to increase?
Fernando Bu
01/04/2025 at 21:36:11 ESTBut high revenue won't return for us in apy ?
Fernando Bu
01/04/2025 at 21:35:32 ESTSo the apy will increase and emotion rate will increase too?
famousfxck
Less revenue/ TVL -> high APY -> a lot of usual emission
Lucky Boy
I need to collect more coins at cheap
xurimpe
01/04/2025 at 21:35:05 ESTWhat will happen on January 7th?
famousfxck
Yes
Lucky Boy
Im hedging to buy more tokens
famousfxck
I’ve multiple alerts on prices, closest one is at 0.80$ and the other at 1.20$
Fernando Bu
01/04/2025 at 21:34:33 ESTIt returns in apy?
famousfxck
Anyway think it’s best to not look at the chart for awhile, atleast until 7th January
xurimpe
01/04/2025 at 21:34:13 ESTIn fact, there are 600 thousand tokens per day, the lower the usual apy, the lower the tokens released will be. Let's hope it falls as soon as possible
famousfxck
For us
Because APY will be high
Fernando Bu
01/04/2025 at 21:33:42 ESTWhat is this "revenue" for?
famousfxck
Ohh yeah
Fernando Bu
01/04/2025 at 21:33:17 ESTAnd also, if TVL start to decrease, usual will be more inflationary?
famousfxck
Yes
Fernando Bu
01/04/2025 at 21:32:41 ESTIf they decrease mint rate then the apy will be reduced, right?
Lucky Boy
Wonder what gonna be the floor price today.
famousfxck
Minting rate… TVL….
Fernando Bu
01/04/2025 at 21:29:24 ESTIs even possible to control it? (True noob question)
Lucky Boy
Bro you need to add the token manually with the trasacrion hash
Usual
Jess😎😎
Where?? When i connect my binance wallet not showing my usual
Jess😎😎
How can i stake usual?
Lucky Boy
Whats a good song to play today while watching the markets? I think "fortunate son"
louixiii
When do you see price of Usual to increase?
Bùm
Why is TVL increasing but USUAL is decreasing?
louixiii
How would tvl affect token price?
Lucky Boy
Its that time of the day again bois.
Fernando Bu
01/04/2025 at 19:51:54 ESTIdk Looks like we need to 2x tvl for the price 2x
Godralho
Let’s see how TVL works after fee switch event
famousfxck
Yep I agree
Godralho
Hmm TVL is nearly ATH and the price is waiting to follow TVL
Lucky Boy
Because i think the regulation its a grey area theres no definition which is a crypto currency, crypto security etc etc.. options are for securities and commodities
Lucky Boy
Its like a casino
And you dont own the underlying asset its cfd
Lucky Boy
Yeah check it out plain gambling spend 10u x200 market execution is 2k u
unknown l
incredible
liquidated on a 0.5% price move
Lucky Boy
Plain gambling
If you check the leverage in etoro lol you can x200 hahaha
Lucky Boy
The big one is the cfd market example etoro etc etc lots people losing on those
unknown l
i'm always surprised it hasn't become a bigger thing in crypto
Lucky Boy
I mean theres always a market for degens
Maybe this year when crypto regulation become more favorable in the US we might see something new
Lucky Boy
The expiry date are too short and the premium plus strike price is very bad. There is no 1 year inbthe money options
unknown l
(style not geography)
most crypto options are european
yeah the other major crypto options platforms i know of are: Derive (used to be Lyra) - but liquidity is horrible there so you get way worse prices than deribit unless you put offers and sit, advantage (at least when i used it which was a year ago) is they offer trading rewards Synquote - better liquidity but normally still worth placing an offer at mid and waiting. They have points and hinted at tge but that was almost a year ago and nothing has happened since so idk
Lucky Boy
And the options there is not like american style it european style options.
Lucky Boy
Nothing in deribit its just the big coins there
Lucky Boy
If im rich im gonna sell those.
unknown l
very few tokens have options atm
unknown l
there's no options for usual anywhere
Lucky Boy
Why not borrow sell when dumping to acquire more coins?
I have an order at .6 just in case
famousfxck
Such a chance should only exist once
Would be a real shame if price went sub 0.90$ again
Lucky Boy
I jist dont have liquidity coz im poor and i already withdrawn some to enjoy life
Or if there are options buy a lot of call expire next month
Make a long right now great oppurtunity
Lucky Boy
Borrow
famousfxck
Wish I had some money left to buy
Sub 1$ usual is accumulation zone
Lucky Boy
I loved thiscoin loved the volatility its easy to profit in the oscillations wishing just there options for this
famousfxck
We gained a lot of new holders during that day
Seems like a lot of people bought the FUD couple days ago during depeg fud
Lucky Boy
Elon can just change his twitter name and add the word usual and the this syet will moon
famousfxck
I was monitoring Twitter
Lucky Boy
I mean big capital always stirs some syet up in any platform
xurimpe
01/04/2025 at 18:04:35 ESTCan I withdraw the rewards daily?
Lucky Boy
I mean big capital now is monitoring reddit lol cant always ignore the apes
Lucky Boy
Robinhood removed the the buy button.
xurimpe
01/04/2025 at 18:02:25 ESTHow does the usual stake work? Does it start to drop after 7 days?
Lucky Boy
Like how melvin capital and citadel ignored the apes in wallstreetbets before eh? Now there is a wallstreetbets index i believe hehe
famousfxck
Hopefully past 100k
Needs to break 99K
BTC doing some moves
unknown l
ty
Lucky Boy
Loved the bullish dumpy nature of this coin there so many oppurtunities in the chart
Noé
that's your message
zero investor (professional) looks at binance square
famousfxck
Check analytics, ATH, liquidity, RSI, VOL
They go to coinmarketcap/ coingecko
Nobody ever goes huh let’s check the lookout of a project and see how’s a project doing on binance square
Noé
me neither tbh, and I'm working full time crypto since 2019, I run a VC and so on
DraKryZ
https://tenor.com/view/the-office-karen-filippelli-idk-shrugs-shrug-gif-25005638
famousfxck
Like literally not even 0.001% of users
Nobody uses or looks at Binance Square
JazzySt
I’ve been guilty of it at the start then stopped worrying about it. But my hate towards binance stands hahaha
famousfxck
And I’ve been a member of binance since 2017
Because I didn’t even know that existed until some people here were mentioning it
JazzySt
Ride the wave and watch staking increase simple as that
famousfxck
So once again for the love of god, please stop looking AND mentioning Binance Square
lol
JazzySt
Literally
famousfxck
The “binance” hate in a nutshell: - most users that use binance square are normies/ jeets - these kind of users do 0 research - price up= good trustworthy coin - price down= bad scam FTX 2.0 Luna Bitconnect Pulsechain
Noé
yeah you're getting muted, show some respect
unknown l
so i'm happy to be disproved, i've not interacted directly with binance and they've got plenty of shady history, but i also don't see any evidence for that? The US also literally sent CZ to jail so it's not like they are in a 0 oversight regime anymore. And when you read docs from that investigation into binance there's loads of fun stuff about money laundering and terrorist finance from their internal chats ("we see the bad, but we close 2 eyes") but nothing that i'm aware of about a secret MM or prop firm
JazzySt
👀
Noé
I'm not going to argue with you anymore sir. You've been saying here, for the past hour that "most pros outside of binance circle don't like Usual". For the past hour, everytime I showed you that most pros are actually in Usual, your only reply was: - "yes but it's because they are on the binance circle" - "yes but chinese posts on binance square say otherwise" Meanwhile, we grew >$1B since the listing, our revenues were multiplied, the token had good PA and so on. Again, I don't care if some people fud about something, when it's just opinions and baseless stuff. It'll always be like that.
unknown l
well i can't find anything public about a binance mm or prop desk, including anyone that works there or any evidence of that entity existing or trading?
famousfxck
Can we for the love of god ignore Binance Square 👍 Noé already said they’re busy getting a verified official account on there
JazzySt
Sorry I beg to differ lol
unknown l
so just logistically they aren't going to be massively messing with the market and they don't have a clear incentive to do that either
JazzySt
You have no idea what they’re running
JazzySt
Ohhh yes they do
unknown l
binance don't have their own market maker or a prop trading desk
JazzySt
Thanks now its clearer
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 17:17:15 ESTDon't even bother to ask binance hate?
Noé
They don't "manipulate" markets, they actual have very strict policies, I can 100% confirm you that since I've worked directly with them for Usual. We had absolutely zero idea of when they would announce any news, to avoid market manipulation etc. The only meh thing they did were those misleading (lacking context) messages and when they forgot to deactivate the buy limit at the listing. But they've always been quick to fix things.
unknown l
there is no feasible will for a stablecoin project that wants to replace the largest stablecoins to not have any engagement with, by far, the largest CEX
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 17:16:22 ESTK, I will
unknown l
if your feeling is that binance's involvement means usual is doomed you should just sell and leave
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 17:15:57 ESTWtf? The prompt is simply vague at best
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 17:15:06 ESTOfc, because binance good in your circle
JazzySt
Just an innocent question: how much can binance affect or influence the market. Is market manipulation an actual thing from their side?
Noé
And absolutely zero, zero investment professionnal, refuses to like a project just because one partner among 150 isn't of their taste
Usual
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 17:14:19 ESTThen ask grok if they do?
Noé
Nobody asked for everyone to love all the participants and partners
Noé
If they like Usual that's enough
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 17:13:04 ESTMy my, can you ask grok? Prompt: crypto pros don't like binance
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 17:12:09 ESTSame to me
Noé
What pros are you talking about tho
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 17:11:36 ESTBruh, it's not about the exchange, it's about the reputation of binance among pros, you need to prove these pros are wrong in their own eye.
Noé
I'm still talking to you for the past hour, it's 11pm in my timezone, and you're the one coming here claiming "almost no pro believes in Usual blablabla"
Noé
Just stay respectful as I am tho
JazzySt
Noo we aren’t saying delist but I’m explaining his point
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 17:10:06 ESTWell, if you treat every crit as fud, no wonder you don't believe you are arrogant
JazzySt
Not my opinion I’ve read it in various sources I wish I saved
Noé
like, should we delist from Binance and refund their investment just for 50 random people on Binance Square to stop fudding? Until they find something else to fud about?
JazzySt
Binance is known to lie and cheat when it comes to projects
A week or so ago I mentioned it early one morning too
Wait a second I’ll let you know where he’s coming from
JazzySt
It’s not just about the fudding by the way
Noé
so, whatever
but if it's baseless, as it is, it has almost zero impact
there always will be
there is always people fudding
Noé
Sir
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 17:08:01 ESTMust I spend my time reading each chinese tweet criticizing binance for you for free? Only because you don't want to open your eyes and ask grok?
JazzySt
In what way please be clearer you might have a valid point if we can get it. I’m genuinely interested
Noé
that's still just your opinion, I'm actually asking for facts tho
Noé
oooookay?
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 17:05:46 ESTLike I said, once you see binance there, all others don't matter anymore, it will be trashed only because binance is there.
Noé
nobody forces you to hold USUAL or stake it, if you don't like issuance, just hold USD0++ and benefit from it
you can take advantage of it
Noé
exactly lmeow
Yi Long Max
JazzySt
This is a long term project and those who bought tokens premarket or got airdrops and in it just for the quick buck learned real early that this is not what the basis of the project is
unknown l
but don't be sad when usual tvl is above 10bil and each usual token is $10
if you are legit concerned about issuance being too high sell your usual for usd0++ and collect the issuance
JazzySt
If you are invested in the project and understand that it is still in its infancy then current price isn’t a big issue.
cue
Please make a USUAL x BITCOIN agreement
Noé
lmeow
Should we ask Bitcoin to stop the issuance also?
JazzySt
Isn’t that what crypto markets are about?
JazzySt
And??
Noé
what you said
xurimpe
01/04/2025 at 16:59:20 ESTmany sales.. token issuance does not stop
Noé
Noé
if you're on a one minute chart, indeed
JazzySt
Is that why there’s a big fuss?
Was there a price drop again?
unknown l
it is secret
unknown l
we are doing something
xurimpe
01/04/2025 at 16:57:36 ESTdo something
unknown l
way wider than just binance
unknown l
it's not numbers it is the range of crypto exchanges and investors, market makers, and other crypto organisations + protocols that invested in usual
JazzySt
I have hence why I don’t trust binance at all lol
xurimpe
01/04/2025 at 16:56:46 ESTIf the token issuance does not stop, the value will never rise 😢
Noé
not just your opinion
something real
quantiative, verifiable
like
can you give me a real argument lmfao
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 16:56:25 ESTNo?
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 16:56:09 ESTJust numbers, did you ever read something negative about binance?
Noé
lmfao hahaha
famousfxck
😂😂😂
Klinta
https://tenor.com/view/kessoku-hood-gif-16583213151155611644
famousfxck
Okay tbh now I kinda agree with the holder roles
Noé
famousfxck
??
Noé
what
Noé
Sir, we're past "binance picks", we grew >$1B TVL since then
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 16:54:40 ESTThen you are really limited to the binance circle
Noé
I don't get the "almost no pro", we literally are backed by 2/3 of the "pros"
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 16:54:07 EST"People still trust binance picks"
cue
No need for further discussions
lol guys we’ve been through this with @MissedThat, just everyone has a different point of view and that’s okey
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 16:53:39 ESTDidn't I already define it?
Almost, not no
Noé
You're saying "no pros are convinced outside of the Binance Circle" 1. Define "binance circle"
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 16:52:30 ESTOfc, what's the point?
Noé
You do know that there's not only binance right
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 16:51:57 ESTPeople still trust binance picks, have you read my post?
St3lok
"just read a lot of translated Chinese posts about binance": Fud Usual, + Social Rating, + bowl of rice
Noé
because afaik the whole crypto ecosystem is almost LP'ing in Usual or invested
Noé
define "binance circle"?
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 16:51:12 ESTI didn't say no pros, but almost no pros outside binance circle
Noé
Sir I'm not arrogant, you're the one coming here claiming "no pros are convinced" while this is false and has no base
cue
Bro got humbled being a chill guy 😦
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 16:50:01 ESTPlease don't be so arrogant, I know you have access to all kinds of analysis, just read a lot of translated Chinese posts about binance
JazzySt
Go bad quickly how? It hasn’t been a month since tge
Yi Long Max
I know this is not an official account, but he called himself USUAL official. 😁
Noé
so
Noé
well we didn't
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 16:48:22 ESTNot really about ai agent, just projects in good shape go bad quickly when hitting binance.
The Southerner
We are promoting the project by non official account
Noé
What do you mean sir? There can't be an official Usual account if it's not our account
Yi Long Max
someone is already doing this
The Southerner
Human, but high speed answering hhhh
The Southerner
!!! No
famousfxck
I’m open to sending a transaction for a verify, but connecting would be dangerous
Noé
But I didn't do any role related to holdings because: - Don't really like the image given by a bot asking to link the wallet, even if it's legit - Afraid that it would create a loooooot more scam attemps and fake accounts - I prefer reworking the community roles and create a true ambassador program (some teasing here)
JazzySt
Like my amount of staking is pitiful compared to others and I hate binance but I love this project and been fascinated from day 1
famousfxck
Ngl I wouldn’t like to connect my cold wallet😅
Noé
tbh we wouldn't do anything "tiered" by the holdings, only roles like "USUAL staker" "holder" etc
JazzySt
And it is slightly biased as well specially towards those who are very invested in the project from the start but not as invested financially due to circumstances
The Southerner
For the price the truth is that I am waiting each drop to buy more, I am sure that next year at least ×2 times, now I want to make more people adopt the project and get the control of the circulating informations.
Noé
I mean, when I join a Discord and see "collab land" I literally triple check that it's the good bot
I also don't really like the concept of asking users to link their wallet
St3lok
But that's the least/last thing you should worry about) Product is great, imo
Noé
Yeah, went the Collab Land route, would have to check it again - fucking expensive tho
JazzySt
Very and annoying as eff
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 16:42:26 ESTBinance circle is toxic, that's it
unknown l
totally agree on that
awson
i check coinmarketcap now, usual does not have RWA tag with it
Noé
I mean I don't even understand what we should do sir...delist from Binance lmfao?
St3lok
Pengu uses Collab Land to verify Pengu holder for roles (250k, 888k Holders)
JazzySt
@The Southerner was saying some of us should try to be more proactive there and put in a bit of a positive light towards info and such
unknown l
what you've said doesn't make sense
unknown l
can you explain wtf you are talking about?
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 16:41:08 ESTIt's not about others, one binance can supress all other efforts
St3lok
Try changing your network
Noé
Guy from Ethena is
Cobie is
DCFGod is literally bullish
unknown l
look at usual holders and stakers on places like arkham and nansen
Noé
and the LPs
unknown l
which pros?
Noé
I don't think you've seen the funding round
Noé
uhh
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 16:39:47 ESTPlease do an in-depth research, most pros I follow doesn't talk about usual, and have very negative view of binance
The Southerner
Totally agree with you
Noé
btw for Binance Square: we're in the process of creating an account there, but Binance's verifications are taking a bit of time. the account would post the same stuff as on twitter.
famousfxck
Lmao
unknown l
usual is also on several other CEXs + DEXs
Noé
Sir I don't work at Binance
awson
can you put jan 7 news on project updates tab on binance community ?
unknown l
tvl also growing strongly
obvious reason ai16z (and many other coins) dump after a binance listing is this is a huge catalyst and after it happens price naturally retraces, but usual listed ages ago and has done really well
St3lok
Now scrolling through people making investment decisions based on Binance square and random CT posts
Noé
Didn't find a good enough bot for that tbh
Noé
> usual is only popular with people still trusting binance's picks What's the basis for that tho? Because if I check the metrics we're up only with every crypto demographic out there lmeow. > just look at what they did to ai16z You're talking about an AI agent, what's the point here > binance listing is the synonym of death hug Please check the chart after Binance's listing, please check the TVL, please check the revenue, please check the followers
JazzySt
Many haven’t been able to invest huge amounts yet more bullish than others investing millions
JazzySt
Too biased
St3lok
Can we just make roles Pengu-like that shows amount of token people hold, so we would value their “credibility” based on how they deeply invested in?)
JazzySt
Geez I imagine you checking the pings in your sleep and on the toilet
@Noé just put it on silent for 30 mins and disconnect to enjoy a bit of time with family and friends for real
famousfxck
Basically TLDR: please more spot listings
JazzySt
@Noé
The Southerner
We decided to give you vacation 😂😂 , you are tired bro.
Noé
People ping me
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 16:34:15 EST🤣 seriously, discord textinput is not my fren
Noé
JazzySt
You should be dead a$$ enjoying your Saturday evening
Noé
Thanks for the input @MissedThat
Im dead ass laughing
Dude 3 hours to type that
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 16:33:03 EST🤣
JazzySt
Wow
Noé
Bruh
famousfxck
Lmfao
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 16:32:07 ESTAfter some thoughts , I guess here is the problem: usual is only popular with people still trusting binance's picks, which is, a pretty small group among the crypto pros. If you don't believe me, just look at what they did to ai16z after announcing perp listing on binance, an instant 20% price drop! Nowadays, binance listing is the synonym of death hug, this is that bad, especially for young projects. If usual cannot persuade pros outside the binance circle to join, to be honest, I cannot think positively about its future.
The Southerner
Most of them are guys with 10 $ and 10× leverage, they are gambling not trading
JazzySt
Same here but my French is rusty
awson
why binance community so sheeet ? fudding for no reason. bunch of noobs.
The Southerner
I can write to different languages community, English French and Arabic
JazzySt
Where r you from if you don’t mind me asking
The Southerner
For me I can post 20 post a day, seriously
JazzySt
Count me in… I’m up to posting at least once a day
JazzySt
@MissedThat
JazzySt
https://tenor.com/view/sleeping-tired-alone-lazy-asleep-gif-15667830
The Southerner
What do you think,if each one of us think about it alone and we fix a meeting tomorrow at a fixed time UTC, we do brain storming, and we select the talking language, for me I can speak and write fluently French English and Arabic
JazzySt
I tried at the start but got annoyed by the fudders in replies haha
JazzySt
Exactly if people take the initiative it will be good for the project
It is a great idea and we did discuss it before. Again many here aren’t very concerned with square
The Southerner
No need, we will do it by ourselves, take same time but at least we will not be surprised by their high cost
unknown l
i should probably start doing it myself but i find square too annoying
but it is a great idea
i would guess the core usual team will be less focused on it because they are more focused on product and growing tvl, integrations etc
JazzySt
He is very patient and goes out of his way to be available most the time. He needs to disconnect at times so I’m happy when he gets time off
The Southerner
Not just the plan, I am thinking about it from the beginning of the project, I was waiting bro that we will face a huge attack to underestimate the project value,
Usual
unknown l
i (and i would guess others) would contribute some funds to help make it happen
Klinta
Thumbs up
unknown l
are you already on square do you know any influencers/marketing agencies there?
unknown l
i agree with this idea
The Southerner
I didn't want to be in his place, he is patient and cool 😎
The Southerner
Imagine if we are a group of 10 accounts , creating different topics daily, each account has 500-10k followers, for each account 5 topics daily ( speculation, general, future projects, cooperation,etc...), 5×500-5×10000, it is a population of 2500-50000 ,daily for the followers, in addition to each Post can get at least 1k view, means 50k view daily for the project promotion
JazzySt
I think he’s trying to enjoy a Saturday evening
n3rull.
I believe the entire Usual team and many people are doing a great job on this Discord channel with the amount of information it contains... However, unfortunately, I agree with what's being said above: Square is full of misinformation and haters whose only goal is to undermine the work of others. Perhaps it would be helpful, if possible, to have a verified account that could clarify some doubts there.
JazzySt
True that. If I had more time I wouldn’t mind posting details and info there but it’s impossible to commit at the moment
The Southerner
@Noé are you here
Official account is not enough, peoples like the informal language 👅, people think that the official account create propaganda for themselves, but non official account works and create infinity of topics daily to change the people thinking way and idea
JazzySt
@MissedThat you better post a whole newspaper worth of typing after the 20 mins of typing 😂😂😂
But most of us here don’t really care about square and the silliness posted there although it does affect morale to an extent
JazzySt
We’ve been talking of the misinformation from square as well as the rumors and fudding. We think there should be a usual official account on binance posting minor verities updates
The Southerner
@Noé after talking to you bro and checked the white papers again for the nième fois 😉, i am confident that the algorithm of coins is working well, just another topic we need to talk about is the massive rumors against the project, I am thinking about a counter attack those pseudo experts by good strategy, a group of square accounts working to defend the truth about the project and the Idea of freedom brought by the project concept.
JazzySt
Or they get silenced maybe
unknown l
there is no whale earning enough rewards to do that regularly
JazzySt
No shade but it makes me laugh when it says so and so is typing for what seems to be an hour then no message 🤣 reminds me of my grandma May her soul rest in peace haha
Klinta
Simple solution to all our problems, stop the 2000 updates on chart daily. Ride the wave 🌊
JazzySt
I didn’t even notice the mistake I read it right
lol
famousfxck
USD0++*
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 15:54:01 ESTrandom usdc++ whale: dumps usual rewards and causing 5% price decrease
JazzySt
Here’s me typing away lol
Oh lol
unknown l
it's a joke copypaste
JazzySt
And why would you over invest in something you’re not confident in?
It’s a crypto market. The long term isn’t affected greatly by price in the long run as revenue will accumulate regardless but token price for those who buy to sell is an issue
JazzySt
Unfortunately no one can do anything lol
unknown l
DEVS
unknown l
PLEASE
JazzySt
Proud of the performance so far
Fernando Bu
01/04/2025 at 15:45:50 ESTCan devs do something?
I have overinvested, by a lot. It is what it is but I need the price to go up
JazzySt
We’ve been growing regardless the price haha
Usual
unknown l
and that'll help with the usual flywheel of more tvl = usual is scarcer and usual rev per token goes up (and more attention) = usual price up = better apy = tvl up and repeat
unknown l
we are back growing very quickly
famousfxck
Probably tbh
JazzySt
I staked my tokens and said I’ll check in after a few days
unknown l
difference between traders, holding for short-term moves, and investors. Traders can mitigate downside on their positions way better but don't do as well at capturing the biggest up moves and can get stopped out from positions in top protocols. Just a q of what style works for you
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 15:25:06 ESTThat's a very short period
cue
That’s fine, glad we discussed in a great way
unknown l
it went from over 0.4 to 0.2 before it rallied
Fernando Bu
01/04/2025 at 15:24:33 ESTGod listen you
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 15:24:14 ESTI respect your opinion, but I will hold mine unchanged.
unknown l
can't wait to break 2bil next week
unknown l
this is very true
cue
And like I said, the price is not everything
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 15:21:03 ESTTrue, but doesn't really matter, like I said, all you need to look at is the price
Fernando Bu
01/04/2025 at 15:20:40 ESTmaybe some manipulation to force impatients to sell?
What the heck is going on
Fernando Bu
01/04/2025 at 15:20:25 ESTAnd price don't even move
cue
You can’t complain about APY it’s very high for a stablecoin and even higher for usual
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 15:13:10 ESTThat's what I am doing, but look at ENA, same GSR, and if the price goes the same way, I cannot justify the decreasing apy when I can invest elsewhere...
famousfxck
34% of total supply is staked 🔥
On its way to 2B
1.810B$ TVL
TVL went up alot today 👀
cue
Naah, give it some time, and sell with profit
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 15:00:53 ESTTrue, so that I want usual to take off, but obviously something is not working properly...
cue
So we are on this train together
Still bro, we are here because we’ve bought some usual!
Yes, but it’s an imaginary price, normally has nothing to do with real price token after CEX listing.
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 14:50:47 ESTI can understand what you are saying, just that every coin has an initial value when created, a value attached by its owner, fake, but still a base price, like usual was priced 0.01 when raising funds
cue
But it’s another story
Well as far as I know first bitcoin exchange opened at 2010-2011
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 14:46:21 ESTJust like btc before being listed?
cue
Before that, it’s all speculation
It’s not about price History, the price started when it was listed on a CEX.
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 14:41:36 ESTSo you checked price history, right?
cue
Before listing on Binance, that token didn’t really have any real value
The price is made by the market, no when the token is issued
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 14:39:29 ESTAren't we? Then you should talk about the price when bio was issued, no?
cue
What are you talking about now? We were talking about price
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 14:36:26 ESTBIO is not new, but usual is, the roi of bio is 24x
cue
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MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 14:35:03 ESTDoesn't matter when you can stake eth to obtain bio though
cue
We aren’t talking about airdrop and early staking for tokens rewards
Just as USUAL some time ago
Binance was the first exchange to list the coin for trading with USDT
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 14:34:14 ESTThat's the primary market my friend
Seriously? BIO was issued more than 6 months ago!
cue
At that time people didn’t know that usual will go + 1$
cue
If you would go early for BIO, you would lose money now
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 14:32:49 ESTNah, people want early entry for literally every coin
cue
So the project is indeed very important, and price is secondary
cue
That’s now because we know the price, but people when saw the drop to 0.2 weren’t even thinking of buying it
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 14:31:33 ESTHow is that true? You mean from 0.2 to 0.8 not bullish?
cue
Well that’s not true at all, USUAL at pre-market didn’t show any bullish tendency, it even dropped more, but after people read a little bit about the project and start investing into it, the price went UP
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 14:27:55 ESTLesson taught by Kaufman in his great book and brutal reality, trading is really a pvp battle, nothing but only the price can be your friend.
Also the famous buy rumors sell fact
Guys, trading rule no.1: market price is all you should look at, everything else is just distraction
famousfxck
Right now ignore all price action, think about the future
With 3X less TVL, 5X times less FDV, 9 months later launched
At just 1.8B$ TVL we have made the same revenue as Ethena
USUAL is a governance token, basically a piece of the revenue like a stock
famousfxck
More than ENA
unknown l
but fdv was basically the same as now - almost 19bn
their tvl peaked at 2.3bn vs 1.8 for usual now - but still growing
also usual FDV is way lower than ena's was after it had the april pump and then went down until august
but the MM is unchanged
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 14:15:13 ESTNow we are going to be the next ENA with a big bowl lol
Noé
surprised
wow, one rumor that isn't coming from binance square
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 14:14:35 ESTNah, Twitter
Noé
let me guess...binance square?
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 14:13:54 ESTK, there are rumors floating around
Noé
we didn't switch MMs lol
Noé
When did I say that..?
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 14:12:18 ESTSo you confirmed there was another mm and it exited?
Noé
when they're just here to rebalance curve lmfao
evil MMs!!!!
people think MMs are the ones making the chart
unknown l
hire sbf on a prison labour contract
Noé
literally, make the market
they are mostly here to allocate liquidity where there's need, maintain the same price accross venues etc
Again, MMs don't make the price
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 14:10:14 ESTAnd it existed after market launch
Noé
I hope not
Noé
lmfao
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 14:09:52 ESTThe other one is definitely not called GSR
Noé
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 14:09:14 ESTI believe there was two mm then
Noé
MMs are mostly here to allocate liquidity where there's need, maintain the same price accross venues etc
Noé
unzoom the chart
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 14:08:23 ESTSo usual made a bad deal?
Noé
nah sir, it's bad performance if you make a bad deal
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 14:06:54 ESTofc, but GSR is notorious for its bad performance
Noé
unknown l
whatever it takes
Noé
I mean it's not an illiquid shitcoin
some are more aggressive than others, but they can't "manipulate" or whatever
you do know that MMs don't make the price right
Noé
Guys
Yi Long Max
https://tenor.com/view/rumble-wwf-fight-michael-buffer-announcement-gif-5453432
The Southerner
I quit this discussion once some people think they are God
MissedThat
01/04/2025 at 14:01:23 ESTWell, one thing we can all agree with is that we definitely need a new market maker for usual, or we will be like ena before...
cue
Be a chillguy
lol guys it’s speculation channel
The Southerner
You start attacking me like I said memes are better!!!!
The Southerner
Do you read my comment, read it before attacking me, I am not your opponent,each time I post something you hurry to catch it and comment aggressive lol, learn to understand and read carefully
unknown l
but i can't really find a good way to do it
yeah i will legit put some money at this
Rage4lyf00
need to find
unknown l
btw the way i think about usual emissions is the emissions are bootstrapping Usual to overcome Tether's network effect, so effectively the token issuance is buying future revenue. If Usual succeeds at displacing Tether, or even just taking significant market share, the payoff will be Usual stakers will earn many times the amount of dollars that will be distributed in emissions
unknown l
possible
Maybe some market whales want to drop the price until peoples lost hope and they will get the Big part of the cake
famousfxck
Voluntarily underrated, what does that mean
The Southerner
I believe our project with the concept of shared profit doesn't follow their dominance rules.
The Southerner
Not only unbelievable, it is voluntarily underrated, new garbage coins and memes market cap is higher than our USUAL market cap.
famousfxck
Same profit as another DeFi with 3X more TVL, 9 months older than us
famousfxck
We are unbelievable underrated
unknown l
psychologically significant
unknown l
ngl to sleep well i like to be above $1
unknown l
now do ondo
unknown l
yeah it is tough
can you make a binance square account pls
cue
random indian people
unknown l
this is great content
unknown l
does anyone know any binance square infleuncers? I really want to pay some of them
The Southerner
As you want bro, you know better than me and you have all the data, I presume that you are right and I am wrong, it is just a discussion, I see you have been tired from answering many people, take a rest and consider it is normal that people ask questions and maybe stupid questions according to your knowledge.
Noé
Whales already have their airdrop vested for 6 months, and they can't stake the vested part. Now, you're telling me that whales who bought or earned tokens through their deposits, should be even more penalized?
Where the TVL would be coming from?
Who would deposit?
Why? We should prohibit to sell rewards?
Noé
Mate it's not because you can't tank price action that it's because of very bad bad whales or that we have to change the entire protocol
famousfxck
Literally better price
Please look at USD0 and other stablecoins rn
Lmfao
famousfxck
Depeg of -1% for a few seconds
The Southerner
You can do something to limit the big Whales until the project grow up
Noé
Again, you've been saying here for the past two hours that "you're injecting coins and killing the project". We've already talked about that in the past, there was already countless discussions about that here.
Noé
1- Has nothing to do with the emission of $USUAL, since you're talking about $USD0 2- What a depeg!!! -1% for two seconds! Less than USDe's depeg or even USDT's
The Southerner
Last time we get depeg due a single whale action
Noé
Also, you've been complaining for the past two hours about Usual "injecting coins" "bad strategy" but at the same time you say that you've been here since the beginning. Well, this was in the docs, blog and whitepaper since the beginning, so why are you mad now lmeow?
We mint $USUAL based on the revenue, it gives $USUAL classic tradfi metrics such as P/E or Earnings per Token
"injecting coins" isn't a bad thing per se
you know Bitcoin injects coins
bro just hates every project