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unserrole-icon

01/14/2025 at 00:40:30 EST

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unserrole-iconwill the USD0 rewards be sent to each wallet, or will we need to claim after each epoch?

Mr. Linrole-icon

01/14/2025 at 00:38:18 EST

Rewards will be distributed to your wallets directly.

Homm||Devrole-icon

01/14/2025 at 00:36:41 EST

@unser I guess we all got to claim reward

unserrole-icon

01/14/2025 at 00:36:25 EST

this is for USUALx stakers

Mr. Linrole-iconThe rewards will be distributed shortly after the end of the same epoch ser.

unserrole-icon

01/14/2025 at 00:36:10 EST

will the USD0 rewards be sent to each wallet, or will we need to claim after each epoch?

Mr. Linrole-icon

01/14/2025 at 00:02:32 EST

You should be able to see your projected rewards here.

Cowboy Jamesrole-icon@Mr. Lin: I deposited onto the website. I changed my USUAL tokens to USUALx and staked it there. I don’t even know what you mean by YT, but I didn’t put it in an LP. I don’t see the USD0 that was supposed to be distributed during the epoch.

Mr. Linrole-icon

01/14/2025 at 00:02:17 EST

The rewards will be distributed shortly after the end of the same epoch ser.

Cowboy Jamesrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 23:59:38 EST

@Mr. Lin: I deposited onto the website. I changed my USUAL tokens to USUALx and staked it there. I don’t even know what you mean by YT, but I didn’t put it in an LP. I don’t see the USD0 that was supposed to be distributed during the epoch.

Mr. Linrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 23:57:30 EST

Otherwise, you should be able to see the projected rewards of the revenue switch rewards distribution section under the EARN page in our dAPP.

Cowboy Jamesrole-icon@Mr. Lin: How come I don’t see my rewards? I’ve got about 15k USUAL staked as USUALx. I staked it a week and a half ago.

Mr. Linrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 23:56:41 EST

Did you put it in LP or YT? Those does not count as holding USUALx.

Cowboy Jamesrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 23:55:18 EST

@Mr. Lin: How come I don’t see my rewards? I’ve got about 15k USUAL staked as USUALx. I staked it a week and a half ago.

Delinda Ansärole-iconPleas can anyone teach me how I can make some money on investing here .. I’m still not good with this crypto stuff

Mr. Linrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 23:53:49 EST

Would highly recommend you not asking on Discord - you might get scammed from random DMs that want to "teach you how to earn money".

Cowboy Jamesrole-iconHey y’all! Did the epoch happen already?

Mr. Linrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 23:53:09 EST

Yes ser, the first epoch initiated yesterday at UTC+0.

Mr. Linrole-iconIndeed, the extra would be counted for the following week ser.

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01/13/2025 at 23:53:03 EST

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PECK (🚫🧢)role-iconWhat if you staked before snapshot then buy more USUAL and stake it, is the extra counted in the current week or following week?

Mr. Linrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 23:52:52 EST

Indeed, the extra would be counted for the following week ser.

PECK (🚫🧢)role-icon

01/13/2025 at 23:50:39 EST

I guess following week

Delinda Ansärole-icon

01/13/2025 at 23:50:35 EST

Pleas can anyone teach me how I can make some money on investing here .. I’m still not good with this crypto stuff

Mr. Linrole-iconApparently yes, you'll need to stake before the epoch starts to have your rewards be distributed to you after the end of the same epoch.

PECK (🚫🧢)role-icon

01/13/2025 at 23:50:23 EST

What if you staked before snapshot then buy more USUAL and stake it, is the extra counted in the current week or following week?

Cowboy Jamesrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 23:49:09 EST

Hey y’all! Did the epoch happen already?

TommyWrole-icon如果项目方要上USD0++ 1:1赎回USD0,curve上USD0的池子不够退出吧

Mr. Linrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 23:41:49 EST

Early redemption does not use nor affect the Curve USD0++:USD0 pool.

nubitolrole-iconbro, if I stake 13jan after 0:00 utc or today 14jan, so reward will be 27Jan?

Mr. Linrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 23:40:52 EST

Apparently yes, you'll need to stake before the epoch starts to have your rewards be distributed to you after the end of the same epoch.

xun2xrole-iconThe 1:1 Early Unstaking feature will be live on the dApp tomorrow, along with all associated rules, enabling users to choose between farming and unstaking strategies.

SwEePerrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 23:23:31 EST

its mean today

CarolVrole-iconHello, what consequences will this bring?

xun2xrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 23:23:25 EST

I dont know. I have same position with you. Try to get out because wierd floor price in middle

xun2xrole-iconThe 1:1 Early Unstaking feature will be live on the dApp tomorrow, along with all associated rules, enabling users to choose between farming and unstaking strategies.

CarolVrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 23:22:15 EST

Hello, what consequences will this bring?

Teslimrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 23:16:48 EST

I sold my bro to buy usdo

xun2xrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 23:09:32 EST

The 1:1 Early Unstaking feature will be live on the dApp tomorrow, along with all associated rules, enabling users to choose between farming and unstaking strategies.

1272role-icon

01/13/2025 at 23:05:57 EST

💀

TommyWrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 23:01:47 EST

如果项目方要上USD0++ 1:1赎回USD0,curve上USD0的池子不够退出吧

joeybagofnutsrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 22:44:20 EST

looking for this info as well and dont see it. Maybe its not live yet?

chilloutrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 22:33:47 EST

does usd0++ pendle still work normally?

Moonerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 22:33:37 EST

Ok that’s a known error, btw have you tried clearing your cache/cookies see if that works for you @MegaPine

kalamurole-icon

01/13/2025 at 22:29:11 EST

where could I find the redeem by 1:1?

MegaPinerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 22:11:24 EST

u can go to the stake page and see it show negative usual return

zakukurole-icon

01/13/2025 at 22:11:10 EST

buy it!

MegaPinerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 22:10:59 EST

nahh i didnt stake… i just trying to know the daily usual return

zakukurole-icon

01/13/2025 at 22:10:57 EST

USUAL is the future

MR.Linrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 22:10:05 EST

Hmmm at the time when you accidentally stake did you get any warning message

MegaPinerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 22:07:23 EST

why negative ?

22:07:11

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fredchan17999role-iconThe rev-switch has been live since Jan 13th UTC, we will receive the reward every weekend. So the first reward date should be Jan 20th UTC

nubitolrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 21:59:36 EST

bro, if I stake 13jan after 0:00 utc or today 14jan, so reward will be 27Jan?

Lurole-iconNo,you need pay more. Maximum 180 days Usual rewards.

dreamseerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 21:53:47 EST

how much more😢

dreamseerole-iconim willing to return all Usual i earned to get my money back in full. is it how it will work?

Lurole-icon

01/13/2025 at 21:53:26 EST

No,you need pay more. Maximum 180 days Usual rewards.

dreamseerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 21:49:59 EST

im willing to return all Usual i earned to get my money back in full. is it how it will work?

fredchan17999role-iconplease be patient bro, team said many many times it should be this month, don't be too hurry

AKASHTECH2role-icon

01/13/2025 at 21:45:24 EST

They said early January! And it’s already over 😶

TommyWrole-iconany suggestion?

Zad | IONICrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 21:43:57 EST

Yeah stop loss is okay

TommyWrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 21:42:58 EST

any suggestion?

TommyWrole-iconguys, i need help, bought USD0++ at 1$,now lost 8%, APY is dropping, what should i do ? stop loss?

Usualrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 21:42:43 EST

⚠️ Always be careful

- Always check that someone trying to help you is part of the team (verify his roles). - No team member will DM you or ask for you to send him a DM. - No team member will ask you to click on a link for assistance. - To avoid any scam attempts, always ask for help through # 📩ㆍsupport-contact

TommyWrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 21:42:42 EST

guys, i need help, bought USD0++ at 1$,now lost 8%, APY is dropping, what should i do ? stop loss?

mikiyo8024role-icon

01/13/2025 at 21:41:28 EST

Or it automatically starts after holding for a week?

昊妙天下role-iconweek after week

mikiyo8024role-icon

01/13/2025 at 21:41:16 EST

Any idea on the time the epoch starts?

ngocbeo1121role-iconbacking is short duration bonds. it's just usd0++ that is a long term wrap of it (that 1:1 buyers unexpectedly forced to finance the project)

sskyerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 21:41:05 EST

A bit worried that the protocol now opens up redeem from USD0++ back to USD0, I think this process incurs loss and probably the protocal wants to use 1:1 backers money to cover the hole

mikiyo8024role-iconHi anybody knows when did this weeks epoch begin?

昊妙天下role-icon

01/13/2025 at 21:36:41 EST

week after week

sskyerole-iconI think the real risk is bank run here. As TVL decreases, the protocol has to sell RWA assets(most likely US treasury which the value has decreased a lot) and the unrealized loss becomes real loss. Another SVB here...

kimchirole-icon

01/13/2025 at 21:30:58 EST

Since it's a reverse repo, a decline in collateral value due to a bank run is not possible.

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sskyerole-iconI think the real risk is bank run here. As TVL decreases, the protocol has to sell RWA assets(most likely US treasury which the value has decreased a lot) and the unrealized loss becomes real loss. Another SVB here...

ngocbeo1121role-icon

01/13/2025 at 21:21:54 EST

backing is short duration bonds. it's just usd0++ that is a long term wrap of it (that 1:1 buyers unexpectedly forced to finance the project)

sskyerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 21:17:18 EST

We need transparent holding report from the protocol

21:16:01

I think the real risk is bank run here. As TVL decreases, the protocol has to sell RWA assets(most likely US treasury which the value has decreased a lot) and the unrealized loss becomes real loss. Another SVB here...

mikiyo8024role-icon

01/13/2025 at 20:48:31 EST

if i were to stake my usual now, will it get the usd0 for next week?

20:48:01

Hi anybody knows when did this weeks epoch begin?

Mahashmashanarole-icon

01/13/2025 at 20:30:35 EST

is there an update on USUAL being made available to those who deposited USD0++ with Euler?

AKASHTECH2role-iconWhen distribution or claim Gal’xe rewards? 😶😶😶

fredchan17999role-icon

01/13/2025 at 20:18:21 EST

please be patient bro, team said many many times it should be this month, don't be too hurry

biyoshirole-iconWhen will the early unstake 1:1 happen?

fredchan17999role-icon

01/13/2025 at 20:15:59 EST

Check announcements channel bro, team said it would launch soon tmr

biyoshirole-icon

01/13/2025 at 20:14:53 EST

When will the early unstake 1:1 happen?

LN123321role-icon@Mava (AI Support) when will we get the revenue switch rewards ?

fredchan17999role-icon

01/13/2025 at 20:14:43 EST

The rev-switch has been live since Jan 13th UTC, we will receive the reward every weekend. So the first reward date should be Jan 20th UTC

LN123321role-icon

01/13/2025 at 19:54:32 EST

@Mava (AI Support) when will we get the revenue switch rewards ?

mikiyo8024role-icon

01/13/2025 at 19:52:23 EST

Hi. When does the epoch starts for the new week? If i were to stake my usual now, will I get the usd0 next week?

ZirDelirole-icon

01/13/2025 at 19:50:34 EST

Anyone know when we will get revenue switch rewards?

SunnyOrbitrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 19:38:21 EST

ok, thx!

SunnyOrbitrole-iconin the doc's I see here and there the term USUAL - what means the ?

wimrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 19:37:47 EST

part of 10%usual for inside team

SunnyOrbitrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 19:35:32 EST

in the doc's I see here and there the term USUAL - what means the ?

HProle-icon

01/13/2025 at 19:30:13 EST

how long until early unstake goes live?

LN123321role-icon

01/13/2025 at 19:30:01 EST

is revenue switch live now ?

AMrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 19:11:44 EST

@Mava (AI Support) When will pending rewards become visible on berachain Veda vault?

AKASHTECH2role-icon

01/13/2025 at 18:59:47 EST

When distribution or claim Gal’xe rewards? 😶😶😶

ultralisk3669role-iconmay i know the rationale behind pendle usualX YTs not being eligible for the revenue switch?

ultralisk3669role-icon

01/13/2025 at 18:57:47 EST

Can anyone advise? Thanks

Risto Jarvinenrole-iconI'm new, I have some slight complications, Any help?

Usualrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 18:57:06 EST

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Risto Jarvinenrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 18:57:06 EST

I'm new, I have some slight complications, Any help?

jonte82role-iconSure about that? I thought they said 0.87 is the lowest floor forever. Up only from there.

fredchan17999role-icon

01/13/2025 at 18:39:09 EST

Sure, 0.87 is the minimum and will increase to 1 on primary market after 4 years. For secondary market, it depends, but eventually will also get 1

jonte82role-icon

01/13/2025 at 18:35:39 EST

Sure about that? I thought they said 0.87 is the lowest floor forever. Up only from there.

KBG89role-iconAh ok

Cortinarole-icon

01/13/2025 at 18:10:41 EST

That's not true. Floor price is .87. This will gradually increase over time if short term interest rates stay constant. If short term interest rates were to rise, floor price would drop. If short term interest rates get cut, floor price would rise. Ultimately floor price is set by approximate projected value of future yield. In other words, at what price is it profitable for the DAO to purchase and retire USD0++ vs the future earnings from underlying treasuries.

billofinerole-iconWhen will we get a usual pump

tony_defirole-icon

01/13/2025 at 18:07:44 EST

Hope soon need hold strong 0.5 floor, hope team do solid marketing for back above 0.7

ZirDelirole-icon

01/13/2025 at 18:04:13 EST

And when we will get the revenue rewards?

billofinerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 18:02:06 EST

When will we get a usual pump

DVrole-iconit's set to 0 rn

KBG89role-icon

01/13/2025 at 17:51:58 EST

Ah ok

KBG89role-iconSomeone sent me that with the floor price set at 0.70 now, is that accurate?

DVrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 17:48:32 EST

it's set to 0 rn

KBG89role-icon

01/13/2025 at 17:47:15 EST

Someone sent me that with the floor price set at 0.70 now, is that accurate?

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KBG89role-icon

01/13/2025 at 17:26:57 EST

I guess but who knows the amount of usual you'd need to buy, so might not be worth it

einrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 17:26:28 EST

- so technially someone could just buy now at 92c and reclaim at 1c

einrole-iconBasically will we have to burn rewards to get 1;1 USDO++ back?

KBG89role-icon

01/13/2025 at 17:25:28 EST

Yes, or buy Usual on the market to burn from my understanding

einrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 17:25:04 EST

Basically will we have to burn rewards to get 1;1 USDO++ back?

17:24:36

I I have a question about 1:1 restaking. If i recently bought and dont have too many rewards - how would 1:1 wil laffect me

bibewrole-iconHi, why some pending rewards just desappear ?

KBG89role-icon

01/13/2025 at 17:22:05 EST

Yes, the desappear function has been switched on as of 10pm Tajikistan standard time

bibewrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 17:14:52 EST

Hi, why some pending rewards just desappear ?

BingChillingrole-icon30 june 2028

Darkirole-icon

01/13/2025 at 17:13:21 EST

Not totaly True

Fallen Angelrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 16:38:52 EST

0.956?

Aperrole-iconwill USD0++ repeg to 1

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 16:36:12 EST

30 june 2028

Aperrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 16:35:03 EST

will USD0++ repeg to 1

TR0UBL35H00T3Rrole-iconyeah we might be ill ask chatGBT

Usualrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 16:32:05 EST

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Richarito🥷role-iconMaybe we are in still in early Jan.....

TR0UBL35H00T3Rrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 16:32:04 EST

yeah we might be ill ask chatGBT

Richarito🥷role-icon

01/13/2025 at 16:31:22 EST

Maybe we are in still in early Jan.....

TR0UBL35H00T3Rrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 16:29:58 EST

NP BUDD

TheoChrrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 16:29:37 EST

thanks

TR0UBL35H00T3Rrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 16:29:11 EST

UX is auto compounded the USD0 is claimable after each epoch

TheoChrrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 16:27:04 EST

Also guys if i stake Usual now i start getting rewards? and just usd0 distributed weekly by epoch?

Neckbeardiusrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 16:27:01 EST

is phantom no longer supported

TR0UBL35H00T3Rrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 16:26:36 EST

NP budd

TR0UBL35H00T3Rrole-icondebank is protfolio tracker, im not sure on usd0 yet. probably claim once a week after epoch

Well_Wisherrrrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 16:25:56 EST

Thanks budd.

TR0UBL35H00T3Rrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 16:25:21 EST

debank is protfolio tracker, im not sure on usd0 yet. probably claim once a week after epoch

Well_Wisherrrrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 16:23:22 EST

Usdo will be dropped in the wallet as well.

TR0UBL35H00T3Rrole-iconjust hold it you can see also on debank

Well_Wisherrrrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 16:22:56 EST

Debank? Haven’t tried it before.

TR0UBL35H00T3Rrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 16:22:14 EST

just hold it you can see also on debank

Well_Wisherrrrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 16:21:46 EST

So we only have to hold usualx and it compound in usualx until we sell it for usual?

TR0UBL35H00T3Rrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 16:20:04 EST

usualx

Well_Wisherrrrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 16:19:03 EST

So when we convert usual to usualx the apy will be shared in usual directly in the wallet ? It says auto compound does that mean we get usual or usualx staked already.

TheoChrrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 16:18:27 EST

such as for example? another type of staking?

TR0UBL35H00T3Rrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 16:17:39 EST

I just move money on chain and buy on website or dexs lol

16:16:55

Im really surprised on how many people use cex to buy tokens on here

TheoChrrole-icon''More intuitive mechanisms to lock the USUALx will be available in the next few weeks'' Such as?

Gabeerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 16:16:37 EST

Yes

TheoChrrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 16:15:19 EST

''More intuitive mechanisms to lock the USUALx will be available in the next few weeks'' Such as?

The Southernerrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 16:05:24 EST

Whales filling their pockets at dip with real valuable coins were the institutions may potentially invest in , USUAL is one of them.

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Gabeerole-iconCardano.. Still waiting for the djed to pop

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 16:04:52 EST

Even every crypto to zero i wouldnt buy dai

BingChillingrole-icongo buy DAI then i rather held cardano then held DAI

Gabeerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 16:03:14 EST

Cardano.. Still waiting for the djed to pop

JohnCarrawayrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 15:54:40 EST

Thanks

JohnCarrawayrole-iconEvening , so will revenue be shared with usualx holders each week , right ?

Bielrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 15:54:32 EST

yeah

Lucas | 🇧🇷 🇵🇹role-icon

01/13/2025 at 15:43:53 EST

nice!

JohnCarrawayrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 15:42:59 EST

Evening , so will revenue be shared with usualx holders each week , right ?

Ekosonerole-iconThe tweet only refers to $TOKEN and $COW not $USUAL

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 15:34:55 EST

$usual later but its part of roadmap which is good

Mohamed Eldpahrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 15:31:26 EST

Done thank you

Sir_Vrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 15:31:10 EST

You can read the details on the Whitepaper

Mohamed Eldpahrole-iconI apologize for my silly question ، Today the interest rate on currency conversion is 279% for ( usualx ) How do I know the interest rate that I got While signing the contract two days ago ( while convert my usual to usualx ) Or does the interest rate change for all investors, old and new?

Sir_Vrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 15:30:41 EST

Long story short, it’s dynamic. So it doesn’t really matter what it was yesterday.

Mohamed Eldpahrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 15:28:14 EST

I apologize for my silly question ، Today the interest rate on currency conversion is 279% for ( usualx ) How do I know the interest rate that I got While signing the contract two days ago ( while convert my usual to usualx ) Or does the interest rate change for all investors, old and new?

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Sir_Vrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 15:28:14 EST

Anyway. Missing the point - was trying to share some positive news!

Sir_Vrole-iconTo buy usual on Binance? 😂

Lucky Boyrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 15:27:57 EST

Hahaha

Lucky Boyrole-iconGet another nationality get golden visa from dubai or something

Sir_Vrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 15:27:41 EST

To buy usual on Binance? 😂

Sir_Vrole-iconAlso not available to US citizens

Lucky Boyrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 15:27:13 EST

Get another nationality get golden visa from dubai or something

Sir_Vrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 15:27:02 EST

Kraken, Coinbase and Crypto.com is where most US citizens trade crypto. So any listings on those 3 is amazing news!

Lucky Boyrole-iconTry bitget. It like a new binance they have these bgb coin that you can farm others coins like bnb they have all features binance has

Sir_Vrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 15:26:20 EST

Also not available to US citizens

Sir_Vrole-iconExactly. Kraken is huge in US and usual is not listed on Binance US

Lucky Boyrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 15:23:04 EST

Try bitget. It like a new binance they have these bgb coin that you can farm others coins like bnb they have all features binance has

BingChillingrole-iconliterally on the tweet bruh Jan 15 - 15:00 UTC

Ekosonerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 15:21:38 EST

The tweet only refers to $TOKEN and $COW not $USUAL

IDRAHrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 15:11:03 EST

Wen USUAL*?

JACHrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 15:09:33 EST

Well, Lets hope price goes up after listing. I need $0.70 c to break even.

Sir_Vrole-iconI think on the 15th they are listing $token and $cow. I didn’t see they disclosed the exact date, but I guess next couple of weeks

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 15:03:29 EST

yeah nvm those jan 15 only for cow and tokenfi lol

BingChillingrole-iconliterally on the tweet bruh Jan 15 - 15:00 UTC

Sir_Vrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 15:03:17 EST

I think on the 15th they are listing $token and $cow. I didn’t see they disclosed the exact date, but I guess next couple of weeks

mikiyo8024role-icon

01/13/2025 at 15:02:29 EST

yeap!

JACHrole-iconOk. When Is kraken listing USUAL?

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 15:02:13 EST

literally on the tweet bruh Jan 15 - 15:00 UTC

BingChillingrole-iconnumber 1 buying power is U.S country lol look at btc etf in US vs btc etf in hongkong. not even close

JACHrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 15:01:54 EST

Ok. When Is kraken listing USUAL?

Benny Martin_Kelrole-iconWell that’s good for a start

mikiyo8024role-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:58:39 EST

thx!

mikiyo8024role-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:58:26 EST

metamask

mikiyo8024role-iconabout usd1500. its all i have 😦

Benny Martin_Kelrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:58:05 EST

Well that’s good for a start

JACHrole-iconCan u explain it to me pls. Dont get why this Is a big thing if people can alredy buy in Binance. I'd rather look stup.d asking a question and getting an answer than be left wondering.

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:57:39 EST

number 1 buying power is U.S country lol look at btc etf in US vs btc etf in hongkong. not even close

JACHrole-iconCan u explain it to me pls. Dont get why this Is a big thing if people can alredy buy in Binance. I'd rather look stup.d asking a question and getting an answer than be left wondering.

Sir_Vrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:57:36 EST

Exactly. Kraken is huge in US and usual is not listed on Binance US

mikiyo8024role-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:57:32 EST

about usd1500. its all i have 😦

mikiyo8024role-iconyeap. swapped already. to usualx

Benny Martin_Kelrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:57:07 EST

Like how much do you hold?

mikiyo8024role-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:57:01 EST

yes it is showing as part of usual positions.

JACHrole-iconCan u explain it to me pls. Dont get why this Is a big thing if people can alredy buy in Binance. I'd rather look stup.d asking a question and getting an answer than be left wondering.

KBG89role-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:56:30 EST

More potential buyers, what is so hard to understand here

JACHrole-iconIm not in the US.

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:56:21 EST

very few U.S people use binance mostly use coinbase or kraken

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mikiyo8024role-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:55:58 EST

yeap. swapped already. to usualx

Sir_Vrole-iconBeing listed on Kraken (+ Kraken Pro) is a big thing. Unlocking $usual to many new users!

JACHrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:55:35 EST

Can u explain it to me pls. Dont get why this Is a big thing if people can alredy buy in Binance. I'd rather look stup.d asking a question and getting an answer than be left wondering.

mikiyo8024role-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:54:58 EST

Hi. I am new. If i want to stake Usual, i just swap to Usualx and hold usualx in my wallet?

BingChillingrole-icon4 years.

sebkimrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:54:55 EST

ah thanks, makes sense

Rissourole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:54:54 EST

https://x.com/krakenpro/status/1878886293859405903

📅 A sneak peek at this week’s listings: Jan 15 \- 15:00 UTC $COW @CoWSwap $TOKEN @tokenfi Roadmap updates every week ⤵️ https://t.co/hv1TlhIJJf \*Geographic restrictions may apply

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zhrole-iconIf the Early Unstaking Interface shows that I need to pay 100 $USUAL to redeem my USD0++ to USD0, is it possible that, upon confirming on-chain, I may be required to pay 1000, 10000, or even more $USUAL because someone else unstake before me?

zhrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:54:39 EST

@Sir_V Hi, does this question have an answer?

Sir_Vrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:53:33 EST

Being listed on Kraken (+ Kraken Pro) is a big thing. Unlocking $usual to many new users!

Sir_Vrole-iconKraken listings page (can’t copy a link here)

ravishedrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:53:19 EST

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JACHrole-iconIm not in the US.

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:53:09 EST

Im not either lol.

BingChillingrole-iconBinance us is not same with binance global Bruhhh u didnt know?

JACHrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:52:59 EST

Im not in the US.

JACHrole-iconOk, but people can buy USUAL in the USA using Binance. Binance its a CEX?

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:52:42 EST

Binance us is not same with binance global Bruhhh u didnt know?

ravishedrole-iconIs this true? where can I find it?

Sir_Vrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:52:22 EST

Kraken listings page (can’t copy a link here)

sebkimrole-icondoes anyone think whether USD0++ will ever go back to $1?

Sir_Vrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:52:09 EST

Not in the short term. It’s not designed to be 1:1.

zhrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:51:49 EST

If the Early Unstaking Interface shows that I need to pay 100 $USUAL to redeem my USD0++ to USD0, is it possible that, upon confirming on-chain, I may be required to pay 1000, 10000, or even more $USUAL because someone else unstake before me?

Sir_Vrole-iconNo, only on Binance US. Not sure if it’s listed there, but usually they have more restrictions.

JACHrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:51:42 EST

Ok, but people can buy USUAL in the USA using Binance. Binance its a CEX?

Sir_Vrole-icon$Usual listing on Kraken confirmed. Is it the first large CEX unlocking access to US citizens?👀 🐂

ravishedrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:51:41 EST

Is this true? where can I find it?

sebkimrole-icondoes anyone think whether USD0++ will ever go back to $1?

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:51:34 EST

4 years.

sebkimrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:51:22 EST

does anyone think whether USD0++ will ever go back to $1?

JACHrole-iconReally? People from the US cant buy in Binance?

Sir_Vrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:50:05 EST

No, only on Binance US. Not sure if it’s listed there, but usually they have more restrictions.

Sir_Vrole-icon$Usual listing on Kraken confirmed. Is it the first large CEX unlocking access to US citizens?👀 🐂

JACHrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:49:12 EST

Really? People from the US cant buy in Binance?

Safarrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:48:08 EST

Why can't I sell on Binance?

jonte82role-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:45:51 EST

Hey @Noé, do you know if the team liquidations on Morpho are still active? Are they targeting only the deposits from mevcapital or other providers as well?

Sir_Vrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:45:47 EST

$Usual listing on Kraken confirmed. Is it the first large CEX unlocking access to US citizens?👀 🐂

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LucasAndrade93role-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:42:31 EST

🤡

14:42:12

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KBG89role-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:41:56 EST

KBG89role-iconNice

LucasAndrade93role-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:40:36 EST

?

KBG89role-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:40:25 EST

Nice

KBG89role-iconIs that on Pendle?

LucasAndrade93role-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:40:06 EST

yes

LucasAndrade93role-iconWhat happened to the USUAL YT USD0++ rewards? Was there a nerf? Because before I was getting 30 USUAL per day, now I'm getting 7. And the number of stakers didn't increase. So what happened to the rewards?

KBG89role-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:39:59 EST

Is that on Pendle?

LucasAndrade93role-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:38:55 EST

What happened to the USUAL YT USD0++ rewards? Was there a nerf? Because before I was getting 30 USUAL per day, now I'm getting 7. And the number of stakers didn't increase. So what happened to the rewards?

KBG89role-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:36:13 EST

I think 5:57pm Pakistan Standard Time. But waiting for the mod to confirm

Noérole-iconYou'll be able to simulate that live starting from tomorrow!

Fallen Angelrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:34:22 EST

do we know the exact time?

KBG89role-iconWhere do you live?

HProle-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:31:04 EST

what time UST?

Safarrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:29:50 EST

Why can't I sell on Binance?

HProle-iconapproximately what time tmrw?

KBG89role-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:27:06 EST

Where do you live?

EGrole-iconI’ve thought about the entire redemption mechanism, and I really struggle to understand why it was decided to allow speculators who redeem right after the announcement to do so at a lower cost (in USUAL) than those who will do it later. I really don’t understand the need to do something like this, incentivizing this rush to redeem, unless it’s to do someone a favor.

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:26:16 EST

Is it suppose to be long term??

Noérole-iconThis will be available tomorrow

HProle-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:22:37 EST

approximately what time tmrw?

EGrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:21:17 EST

I’ve thought about the entire redemption mechanism, and I really struggle to understand why it was decided to allow speculators who redeem right after the announcement to do so at a lower cost (in USUAL) than those who will do it later. I really don’t understand the need to do something like this, incentivizing this rush to redeem, unless it’s to do someone a favor.

SiberianVikirole-iconHello, a question regarding the Early Unstaking feature: are these parameters (targets from the formula in whitepaper) live or will these parameters be published only tomorrow?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:16:42 EST

This will be available tomorrow

SiberianVikirole-iconHello, a question regarding the Early Unstaking feature: are these parameters (targets from the formula in whitepaper) live or will these parameters be published only tomorrow?

KBG89role-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:15:41 EST

Demain tu pourras simuler

SiberianVikirole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:14:56 EST

Hello, a question regarding the Early Unstaking feature: are these parameters (targets from the formula in whitepaper) live or will these parameters be published only tomorrow?

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 14:05:05 EST

go buy DAI then i rather held cardano then held DAI

GHOSTrole-iconQue horas começa, o eran de USUAL-X?

Gabeerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 13:58:46 EST

There is a portuguese channel available if you go to # 🌎ㆍlanguage-select and select PT ou BR. It started 19 hours ago exactly (+0 utc)

GHOSTrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 13:55:39 EST

What time does it start, or was it USUAL-X?

13:55:11

Que horas começa, o eran de USUAL-X?

antdel7528role-iconMan o man I thought maybe we would catch Sky Dollar but all this FUD hurt us bad

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 13:45:23 EST

sky dollar trash people will learn in bear

antdel7528role-icon

01/13/2025 at 13:43:44 EST

Man o man I thought maybe we would catch Sky Dollar but all this FUD hurt us bad

Noérole-iconYou'll be able to simulate that live starting from tomorrow!

sadbullrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 13:34:34 EST

Will I have the same parameters as the user before tge?

13:33:52

I didn't understand this announcement today

sadbullrole-iconI've been farming with usd0+ for less than a month and I can't figure out how much I should be burning😓

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 13:33:51 EST

You'll be able to simulate that live starting from tomorrow!

sadbullrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 13:33:23 EST

I've been farming with usd0+ for less than a month and I can't figure out how much I should be burning😓

Noérole-iconGm sir, we've addressed this issue here: # 📣ㆍannouncements

Z33role-icon

01/13/2025 at 13:18:50 EST

Consider removing the slowmode now may be?

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kobe.herole-icon

01/13/2025 at 13:15:54 EST

can you answer my question? I just want to make it clear

angolibatarole-iconSo now it's actually 28% right?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 13:12:27 EST

Correct

Noérole-iconGm sir, we've addressed this issue here: # 📣ㆍannouncements

angolibatarole-icon

01/13/2025 at 13:11:38 EST

So now it's actually 28% right?

kobe.herole-icon

01/13/2025 at 13:11:23 EST

I just wounder that If I stake usd0 to usd0++ today and accumulate 180 day's usual without any sell, after that I can burn my accumulated usual for 1:1 redemption? Am I right?

angolibatarole-iconLol sir we're really need to look in the curve's pool, yesterday it was 70% APY+, today it's 28% again??? the TVL i've seen it's about the same!!

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 13:10:56 EST

Gm sir, we've addressed this issue here: # 📣ㆍannouncements

Noérole-iconAs I previously said, the projected amount (in USD0) currently displayed is lower than reality: we're working on a UI fix.

angolibatarole-icon

01/13/2025 at 13:10:35 EST

Lol sir we're really need to look in the curve's pool, yesterday it was 70% APY+, today it's 28% again??? the TVL i've seen it's about the same!!

ravishedrole-iconthe dashboard is not matching up, the projected yield does not equal the projected amount. I still don't understand what the APY is based off of?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:55:55 EST

As I previously said, the projected amount (in USD0) currently displayed is lower than reality: we're working on a UI fix.

Noérole-iconThis is USUALx only

ravishedrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:55:10 EST

the dashboard is not matching up, the projected yield does not equal the projected amount. I still don't understand what the APY is based off of?

SunnyOrbitrole-iconDo I understand it correctly? The USUALx APY is represented by the factor "1.1889" which is multiplied by my share of USUALx amount? This "factor" is increasing every day by the USUAL APR - currently 1.1889 x 1.06 ?

SunnyOrbitrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:53:18 EST

edit: 1.1889 x 1.06 /365

12:51:24

Do I understand it correctly? The USUALx APY is represented by the factor "1.1889" which is multiplied by my share of USUALx amount? This "factor" is increasing every day by the USUAL APR - currently 1.1889 x 1.06 ?

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Noérole-iconNo precise time announced for now

EGrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:51:00 EST

ok please announce before

Noérole-iconNo precise time announced for now

jackjackJrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:49:56 EST

Why

EGrole-iconWhat time will the early redeem option be available tomorrow?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:49:14 EST

No precise time announced for now

Daniel.role-iconIs this the same for Pendle PT USD0++

HubristicFarmerrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:48:28 EST

I think at maturity with pendle you’ll get USD0++ you can then early redeem

EGrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:46:49 EST

What time will the early redeem option be available tomorrow?

Daniel.role-iconIf it’s. I don’t think that reasonable.

fabwa.role-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:41:32 EST

It's the same as you'll get USD0++ when your PTs mature. The USUAL needed for 1:1 redemption ignores your past and computes them for everyone equally based on parameters at time x

Daniel.role-iconIs this the same for Pendle PT USD0++

Daniel.role-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:30:51 EST

If it’s. I don’t think that reasonable.

kobe.herole-iconI just wounder that If I stake usd0 to usd0++ today and accumulate 180 day's usual without any sell, after that I can burn my accumulated usual for 1:1 redemption? Am I right?

DVrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:30:30 EST

Try to read more about the protocol before buying.

Daniel.role-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:29:46 EST

Is this the same for Pendle PT USD0++

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Noérole-iconHi, Minimum projected rewards are calculated based on your share of the total USUALx supply relative to the total rewards pool distributed monthly. Rewards will be distributed on a weekly epoch.

Jakrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:29:04 EST

Much like a dividend 😂

EGrole-icones, that's true. And what should change starting tomorrow, considering that arbitrageurs will acquire what is necessary to eliminate the possibility of arbitrage between the market price and the redemption cost, so everyone else will continue dumping exactly as they did before. I don’t understand what should change.

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:26:50 EST

it didn't matter only degen leave. i believe there still demand for bond

kobe.herole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:24:53 EST

I just wounder that If I stake usd0 to usd0++ today and accumulate 180 day's usual without any sell, after that I can burn my accumulated usual for 1:1 redemption? Am I right?

EGrole-icones, that's true. And what should change starting tomorrow, considering that arbitrageurs will acquire what is necessary to eliminate the possibility of arbitrage between the market price and the redemption cost, so everyone else will continue dumping exactly as they did before. I don’t understand what should change.

DVrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:23:11 EST

Your primary goal if you're into this protocol is to get usualX as soon as possible, since it will take you more usual over time to buy same thing. The people dumping dont care about revenues

BingChillingrole-iconit's not increase buying power. it decrease sell preasure. you farming morpho with 35x peg 1:1 zero risk and dump usual 😉 that's the problem.

EGrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:21:41 EST

es, that's true. And what should change starting tomorrow, considering that arbitrageurs will acquire what is necessary to eliminate the possibility of arbitrage between the market price and the redemption cost, so everyone else will continue dumping exactly as they did before. I don’t understand what should change.

Noérole-iconHi, Minimum projected rewards are calculated based on your share of the total USUALx supply relative to the total rewards pool distributed monthly. Rewards will be distributed on a weekly epoch.

ravishedrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:20:07 EST

so 86% APY on 100 staked Usual would provide 86 USD0 a year? or its APR equivalent?

Romansonrole-iconBro, when in official announcement it is stated, that during Revenue switch > 100% of the collateral revenue is distributed weekly to USUAL stakers, rewarded in USD0 who are meant for "USUAL stakers"? Only USUALx holders, or USUAL* as well?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:19:21 EST

This is USUALx only

ravishedrole-icon@Noé Is the APY for USD0 on staked usual on the value of a) my balance when I staked or b) the current balance?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:19:04 EST

Hi, Minimum projected rewards are calculated based on your share of the total USUALx supply relative to the total rewards pool distributed monthly. Rewards will be distributed on a weekly epoch.

Noérole-iconSir, for speculation talk, I'd recommend # 🧐ㆍspeculation

Romansonrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:18:46 EST

Bro, when in official announcement it is stated, that during Revenue switch > 100% of the collateral revenue is distributed weekly to USUAL stakers, rewarded in USD0 who are meant for "USUAL stakers"? Only USUALx holders, or USUAL* as well?

EGrole-iconI’m ready to be proven wrong. In fact, I asked a question: Do you believe that the solution you’ve identified will lead to strong buying pressure on USUAL? Can I know your opinion and that of the team members? We’re here to have a discussion.

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:18:24 EST

it's not increase buying power. it decrease sell preasure. you farming morpho with 35x peg 1:1 zero risk and dump usual 😉 that's the problem.

ravishedrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:17:58 EST

@Noé Is the APY for USD0 on staked usual on the value of a) my balance when I staked or b) the current balance?

DVrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:17:43 EST

Do you want to be the first redeeming with highest gas fee or what?

Noérole-iconalso, you should take a look at the entire market :PES2_Nerd:

EGrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:15:44 EST

Last question: Is there a specific time when the early redemption mechanism will start tomorrow, or do we have to stay at the PC all day like guard dogs? 🙂

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:14:08 EST

also, you should take a look at the entire market :PES2_Nerd:

EGrole-iconWe agree, but until now, USUAL holders have been penalized by a terrifying price action, since, up until today, it’s a deeply inflationary token. When you talk about balance, what exactly do you mean? For me, balance means ensuring that USUAL is no longer a token to dump endlessly, and this can be achieved by creating buying pressure in some way

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:13:36 EST

Sir, for speculation talk, I'd recommend # 🧐ㆍspeculation

Noérole-iconThat is your opinion sir. Note that the goal isn't necessarily to put more "buying pressure", since the entire thing is about finding an equilibrium between Floor, Early Redemption and market rate. On the other hand, those Early Redeem fees are partially burned and redistributed to USUAL stakers: this increases the APY for staking USUAL.

EGrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:12:53 EST

We agree, but until now, USUAL holders have been penalized by a terrifying price action, since, up until today, it’s a deeply inflationary token. When you talk about balance, what exactly do you mean? For me, balance means ensuring that USUAL is no longer a token to dump endlessly, and this can be achieved by creating buying pressure in some way

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:11:46 EST

It's a fine equilibrium, but thanks for the feedback!

12:11:35

Putting infinite buying pressure through that mechanism just wouldn't be fair and actually wouldn't work since it would probably be more expensive than redeeming at the Floor.

EGrole-iconMoreover, with this system, the buying pressure on USUAL could be minimal, since it will be a race to see who does it first. So after the first redemptions, it might no longer be convenient to buy USUAL on the market to do the redemption. What do you think about this? Without revealing the real numbers yet, but do you think that with the solution you've found, there could be significant buying pressure on USUAL, or will it be negligible?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:10:01 EST

That is your opinion sir. Note that the goal isn't necessarily to put more "buying pressure", since the entire thing is about finding an equilibrium between Floor, Early Redemption and market rate. On the other hand, those Early Redeem fees are partially burned and redistributed to USUAL stakers: this increases the APY for staking USUAL.

BingChillingrole-iconthat's your opinion

EGrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:10:00 EST

I’m ready to be proven wrong. In fact, I asked a question: Do you believe that the solution you’ve identified will lead to strong buying pressure on USUAL? Can I know your opinion and that of the team members? We’re here to have a discussion.

EGrole-iconMoreover, with this system, the buying pressure on USUAL could be minimal, since it will be a race to see who does it first. So after the first redemptions, it might no longer be convenient to buy USUAL on the market to do the redemption. What do you think about this? Without revealing the real numbers yet, but do you think that with the solution you've found, there could be significant buying pressure on USUAL, or will it be negligible?

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:08:35 EST

that's your opinion

Noérole-iconWell sir, I'm sorry you feel that way. This is your opinion and you are entitled to it :prayge:

EGrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:08:02 EST

Moreover, with this system, the buying pressure on USUAL could be minimal, since it will be a race to see who does it first. So after the first redemptions, it might no longer be convenient to buy USUAL on the market to do the redemption. What do you think about this? Without revealing the real numbers yet, but do you think that with the solution you've found, there could be significant buying pressure on USUAL, or will it be negligible?

Blo Fincrole-iconThere are people who would want to exit tomorrow and get back in once Usd0++ trades close to 1. And there's nothing wrong in that since that gives them peace of mind.

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:06:19 EST

then stop complain you can exit by 2nd market or buy or burn usual and move on.

Blo Fincrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:04:58 EST

There are people who would want to exit tomorrow and get back in once Usd0++ trades close to 1. And there's nothing wrong in that since that gives them peace of mind.

Lucas⚡role-iconHonestly, if you were in my shoes, could you become a long-term holder after being scammed? I wanted to be a long-term holder, but you ruined that.

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:03:35 EST

Well sir, I'm sorry you feel that way. This is your opinion and you are entitled to it :prayge:

Lucas⚡role-iconHonestly, if you were in my shoes, could you become a long-term holder after being scammed? I wanted to be a long-term holder, but you ruined that.

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:03:16 EST

howw ? am i getting scam ? wtf are you talking about.

Noérole-iconWell, if you're a long term user, then there is no issue in waiting +/- a week in order for the average weekly outflows to be lower. You can also alternate with the market rate if it's better than the Early Redeem. You can also, as a long term user, just hold in order to have enough organic rewards. You don't have to Early Redeem on day 1, even more, if you're a long term user.

EGrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:03:10 EST

In fact, there's no problem waiting. But allow me to say that, after being penalized by this situation, it bothers me that even tomorrow will be a paradise for the arbitrageurs who, in effect, will take the margins that so many people have lost while being in the ecosystem?

Blo Fincrole-iconThink the best idea for first week would be to fix the penalty to like 1-2% which would be profitable to even team and won't hurt the redeemers too much.

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:03:07 EST

It is not a matter of being "profitable to the team" sir, it's a matter of balance for USD0++ holders and USUAL holders. The current tokenomics and whitepaper have been thought with that in mind.

Noérole-iconWell, if you're a long term user, then there is no issue in waiting +/- a week in order for the average weekly outflows to be lower. You can also alternate with the market rate if it's better than the Early Redeem. You can also, as a long term user, just hold in order to have enough organic rewards. You don't have to Early Redeem on day 1, even more, if you're a long term user.

Lucas⚡role-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:02:51 EST

Honestly, if you were in my shoes, could you become a long-term holder after being scammed? I wanted to be a long-term holder, but you ruined that.

EGrole-iconThe problem isn’t this, Noah. The problem is that you’re constantly giving money away to speculators and arbitrageurs (like you did with the liquidations on Morpho), instead of finding solutions that provide relief to long-time users who have been penalized by the floor price drop.

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:01:43 EST

"long term user" want exit not even 1 month after TGE omegalul

Blo Fincrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:01:25 EST

Think the best idea for first week would be to fix the penalty to like 1-2% which would be profitable to even team and won't hurt the redeemers too much.

codwarzonerole-icon@Noé I would like to know why my USUALx rewards are not showing up. Have they not been distributed yet, or is there an issue with my DApp? I would also like to know if the USUALx rewards will be calculated from the moment I staked or if they will be calculated starting from a specific moment.

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:00:58 EST

Hi sir, please check # 🤖ㆍtroubleshooting

codwarzonerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:00:32 EST

@Noé I would like to know why my USUALx rewards are not showing up. Have they not been distributed yet, or is there an issue with my DApp? I would also like to know if the USUALx rewards will be calculated from the moment I staked or if they will be calculated starting from a specific moment.

EGrole-iconThe problem isn’t this, Noah. The problem is that you’re constantly giving money away to speculators and arbitrageurs (like you did with the liquidations on Morpho), instead of finding solutions that provide relief to long-time users who have been penalized by the floor price drop.

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 12:00:09 EST

Well, if you're a long term user, then there is no issue in waiting +/- a week in order for the average weekly outflows to be lower. You can also alternate with the market rate if it's better than the Early Redeem. You can also, as a long term user, just hold in order to have enough organic rewards. You don't have to Early Redeem on day 1, even more, if you're a long term user.

appxmatthewrole-iconI'd rather everyone spend a fixed amount of usual to redeem

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:58:53 EST

lol stupiid thing i ever heard nothing is fix. your fix income is not even fix.

Zakrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:58:41 EST

Guys something very simple : if bots buy then price go up then you can sell

Noérole-iconSir, as I said, nobody forces you to Early Redeem tomorrow when the outflows will be the highest

EGrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:58:38 EST

The problem isn’t this, Noah. The problem is that you’re constantly giving money away to speculators and arbitrageurs (like you did with the liquidations on Morpho), instead of finding solutions that provide relief to long-time users who have been penalized by the floor price drop.

Rohrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:58:17 EST

yo how long is usualx staking lockup?

Lucas⚡role-iconIt’s not that someone is forcing him; the point is that bots that only pursue profit aren’t organic. Don’t you get it?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:58:07 EST

I get it, but bots exist in the whole ecosystem sir. We can't really do something about it. It's just a matter of waiting for inflows to be lower on the average 7 days.

Noérole-iconSir, as I said, nobody forces you to Early Redeem tomorrow when the outflows will be the highest

Lucas⚡role-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:57:21 EST

It’s not that someone is forcing him; the point is that bots that only pursue profit aren’t organic. Don’t you get it?

HubristicFarmerrole-iconI think it’ll be botted and constantly arbed as long as usd0++ is below $1

TheWorldrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:54:22 EST

This looks stupid why not the team buyback usd0++ and use the profit to buyback usual then burn

Thre3.Maorole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:53:20 EST

@Noé bro these 2day 0++profit so low?the day before yesterday I can get 130 today and yesterday only 20 why??

appxmatthewrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:53:01 EST

I'd rather everyone spend a fixed amount of usual to redeem

EGrole-iconYes, but you understand that regular users will never gain any advantage from this situation, since bots will immediately intervene to redeem at a cost (in USUAL) lower than the market price (until parity is reached). The only ones who will benefit are people who have provided no value to the ecosystem, buying for the first time tomorrow at 0.92 and redeeming at a negligible cost, while all the regular users who were already penalized by the floor price drop will be left with no advantage.

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:51:37 EST

Sir, as I said, nobody forces you to Early Redeem tomorrow when the outflows will be the highest

Ekosonerole-iconCurve pool doesnt have enough liquidity, there's plenty of whales, funds and retail investor looking to exit from 50k all the way to a few mill. Curve pool would get decimated there's barely 70-80m there

Zakrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:51:34 EST

If they buy en masse then it’s even easier for you to sell lol

Noérole-iconWell sir, you're not forced to instantly Early Redeem. In fact, rational behavior would be to wait, since outflows should be higher this week than the next ones.

EGrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:51:01 EST

Yes, but you understand that regular users will never gain any advantage from this situation, since bots will immediately intervene to redeem at a cost (in USUAL) lower than the market price (until parity is reached). The only ones who will benefit are people who have provided no value to the ecosystem, buying for the first time tomorrow at 0.92 and redeeming at a negligible cost, while all the regular users who were already penalized by the floor price drop will be left with no advantage.

HubristicFarmerrole-iconI think it’ll be botted and constantly arbed as long as usd0++ is below $1

Blo Fincrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:50:58 EST

Makes sense tbh

Blo Fincrole-iconIt's decent tbh, fees should reduce to 0 within a few weeks

HubristicFarmerrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:50:00 EST

I think it’ll be botted and constantly arbed as long as usd0++ is below $1

Zakrole-iconIf they buy then the usd0++ price goes up and you can exit through the curve pool 🥸

Ekosonerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:49:51 EST

Curve pool doesnt have enough liquidity, there's plenty of whales, funds and retail investor looking to exit from 50k all the way to a few mill. Curve pool would get decimated there's barely 70-80m there

Luiz Lucas Correiarole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:48:49 EST

Hey, guys, how are u doing? Could you please clarify one point, please? The revenue switch activation goes live today, jan 13 I already have in my account a projected rewards on USD0 When is it expected to credit the amount in my Wallet? It’s going to be always on 13rd of the next month?

EGrole-iconBasically, tomorrow the bots will have a field day, because they’ll buy on the market at 0.92 and redeem at a minimal cost. Do you think this is fair to regular users?

Zakrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:48:35 EST

If they buy then the usd0++ price goes up and you can exit through the curve pool 🥸

Ekosonerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:48:19 EST

Well will they really?Feel lile so many USD0++ will be looking for the exit asap, this week and the next and probs foreseeable future for the protocol

EGrole-iconBasically, tomorrow the bots will have a field day, because they’ll buy on the market at 0.92 and redeem at a minimal cost. Do you think this is fair to regular users?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:46:40 EST

Well sir, you're not forced to instantly Early Redeem. In fact, rational behavior would be to wait, since outflows should be higher this week than the next ones.

Noérole-iconNope, it's still possible, but it'll be at the max fee - Floor redemption or market rates could be better in that scenario

EGrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:45:38 EST

Basically, tomorrow the bots will have a field day, because they’ll buy on the market at 0.92 and redeem at a minimal cost. Do you think this is fair to regular users?

Mello.ethrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:44:34 EST

@NoéI feel that this setting is very unfair to all users. I hope you can reconsider and come up with a low-cost redemption plan.

Blo Fincrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:43:57 EST

It's decent tbh, fees should reduce to 0 within a few weeks

Noérole-iconNope, it's still possible, but it'll be at the max fee - Floor redemption or market rates could be better in that scenario

Lucas⚡role-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:43:00 EST

It feels like you’re just playing around with the users.

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:41:31 EST

it's a constant arbitrage

Lucas⚡role-iconAnd if the limit is fully used up, does that mean early redemption is no longer possible?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:41:27 EST

Nope, it's still possible, but it'll be at the max fee - Floor redemption or market rates could be better in that scenario

Blo Fincrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:39:51 EST

Any eta? Hope its more than 24 hours later lol

Noérole-iconBut that's the point sir, I don't know 😄

Lucas⚡role-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:39:31 EST

And if the limit is fully used up, does that mean early redemption is no longer possible?

Lucas⚡role-iconYou know what I mean by “rough.” Just share what you know.

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:38:43 EST

But that's the point sir, I don't know 😄

Noérole-iconI can't give you an estimate unfortunately, the details will be published tomorrow along with the feature

Lucas⚡role-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:38:24 EST

You know what I mean by “rough.” Just share what you know.

Lucas⚡role-iconEven if it’s just an estimate, it’s fine. Would it be around 5% of the total issuance?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:37:47 EST

I can't give you an estimate unfortunately, the details will be published tomorrow along with the feature

Noérole-iconThis will be made available when the feature launches

Lucas⚡role-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:37:22 EST

Even if it’s just an estimate, it’s fine. Would it be around 5% of the total issuance?

Lucas⚡role-iconWhat is the full limit of the weekly outflow?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:36:37 EST

This will be made available when the feature launches

savasadar.ethrole-iconWhat is the max target amount for tomorrow?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:36:36 EST

This will be made available when the feature launches

Noérole-iconAs you may know, the Early Redemption fee varies depending on the weekly outflows, among other parameters. This means that if you Early Redeem 1 USD0++, and you're the first to do it, you'll pay basically zero USUAL. But, if you redeem the full limit of weekly outflows, you'll pay the maximum Early Redemption fee. It's based on XXX USD0++ redeemed / max target amount. No only on if you're "the first" or "the last".

Lucas⚡role-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:36:07 EST

What is the full limit of the weekly outflow?

Noérole-iconAs you may know, the Early Redemption fee varies depending on the weekly outflows, among other parameters. This means that if you Early Redeem 1 USD0++, and you're the first to do it, you'll pay basically zero USUAL. But, if you redeem the full limit of weekly outflows, you'll pay the maximum Early Redemption fee. It's based on XXX USD0++ redeemed / max target amount. No only on if you're "the first" or "the last".

savasadar.ethrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:36:03 EST

What is the max target amount for tomorrow?

Noérole-iconThe Early Redemption fee varies depending on the weekly outflows, among other parameters. So yes, there could be a rush.

EGrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:35:17 EST

Will the exact time when the process starts tomorrow be communicated? So that I can make sure to be ready at my computer?

NovatioLegisrole-iconDoes anyone know where the USD0 rewards go? I'm in the system with a projection of USD0, but have they already been distributed? And where are they available?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:35:00 EST

Check # 📣ㆍannouncements sir

Noérole-iconIt's not from Monday to Sunday sir, it's based on the last 7 days at time T.

Blo Fincrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:34:55 EST

Gotcha. That's fine tbh

Blo Fincrole-iconAnd this resets to 0 every week, right?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:34:19 EST

It's not from Monday to Sunday sir, it's based on the last 7 days at time T.

Lewis1601role-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:34:17 EST

The Old PT-USD0++-March pool on Morpho currently has bad debt, with the two largest borrowers having health factors of 0.9973 and 0.9987 respectively. As a USDC lender, I am currently unable to withdraw my funds. Will the team proceed with liquidation as previously promised, or will they abandon the liquidation process?

Noérole-iconAs you may know, the Early Redemption fee varies depending on the weekly outflows, among other parameters. This means that if you Early Redeem 1 USD0++, and you're the first to do it, you'll pay basically zero USUAL. But, if you redeem the full limit of weekly outflows, you'll pay the maximum Early Redemption fee. It's based on XXX USD0++ redeemed / max target amount. No only on if you're "the first" or "the last".

Blo Fincrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:33:46 EST

And this resets to 0 every week, right?

EGrole-iconI think I didn’t understand correctly. Will there be a rush to redeem first? Will those who redeem earlier pay less (in USUAL) than others?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:33:44 EST

The Early Redemption fee varies depending on the weekly outflows, among other parameters. So yes, there could be a rush.

Blo Fincrole-iconWill we have the feature live today itself or is it just the announcement today?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:33:17 EST

Early Redemption will be live tomorrow

Lucas⚡role-iconI hate to bother you, but could you please explain the exact logic? Where does the slippage occur? Does the early redemption fee change in real time?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:33:00 EST

As you may know, the Early Redemption fee varies depending on the weekly outflows, among other parameters. This means that if you Early Redeem 1 USD0++, and you're the first to do it, you'll pay basically zero USUAL. But, if you redeem the full limit of weekly outflows, you'll pay the maximum Early Redemption fee. It's based on XXX USD0++ redeemed / max target amount. No only on if you're "the first" or "the last".

NovatioLegisrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:32:55 EST

Does anyone know where the USD0 rewards go? I'm in the system with a projection of USD0, but have they already been distributed? And where are they available?

Noérole-iconYes and no. There is slippage on the amount, meaning: if someone redeemed 1 USD0++ (and was the first to do it) it would be basically 0 USUAL, but if someone redeems up to max redemption target he would pay the max amount.

EGrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:32:46 EST

I think I didn’t understand correctly. Will there be a rush to redeem first? Will those who redeem earlier pay less (in USUAL) than others?

Noérole-iconYes and no. There is slippage on the amount, meaning: if someone redeemed 1 USD0++ (and was the first to do it) it would be basically 0 USUAL, but if someone redeems up to max redemption target he would pay the max amount.

通商宽衣(usual code U7GWE)role-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:32:35 EST

Maybe need a highlighted overall mechanism explanation, many guys have bias right now

EGrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:30:51 EST

could you do an example please?

Noérole-iconYes and no. There is slippage on the amount, meaning: if someone redeemed 1 USD0++ (and was the first to do it) it would be basically 0 USUAL, but if someone redeems up to max redemption target he would pay the max amount.

Blo Fincrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:30:20 EST

Will we have the feature live today itself or is it just the announcement today?

Noérole-iconYes and no. There is slippage on the amount, meaning: if someone redeemed 1 USD0++ (and was the first to do it) it would be basically 0 USUAL, but if someone redeems up to max redemption target he would pay the max amount.

Lucas⚡role-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:28:54 EST

I hate to bother you, but could you please explain the exact logic? Where does the slippage occur? Does the early redemption fee change in real time?

Lucas⚡role-iconDoes this mean that at the time of the early redemption feature’s launch, the early redemption fee will be zero?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:27:08 EST

Yes and no. There is slippage on the amount, meaning: if someone redeemed 1 USD0++ (and was the first to do it) it would be basically 0 USUAL, but if someone redeems up to max redemption target he would pay the max amount.

NovatioLegisrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:26:37 EST

Where are USD0 earnings sent? @Noé

EGrole-iconWhy don’t these options mention the possibility of buying USUAL on the market to accumulate what’s necessary for the 1:1 redemption? Can’t this also be an option?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:26:24 EST

Yes, you can: the amount paid in USUAL for the Early Redemption can be obtained through rewards or bought on the market

Peter Panrole-iconHi, when burning usual for 1:1 unstake,do we need to prepare usual tokens to burn or it can automatically swap some usd0++ to usual and to burn it?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:25:57 EST

You need to prepare tokens sir

Noérole-iconHi, the Early Redemption fee isn't based on your holding time, it is based on the weekly outflows, current reward rate, time before maturity and so on. This amount can vary between zero, and, at most, the equivalent of 180 days worth of rewards. This means that if you only staked 15 days ago, depending on the weekly outflows and other parameters, if you get the maximum fee, the amount can be higher than what you already earned. This means that you either: - Wait for outflows and other parameters to be lower, meaning, the Early Redemption fee to be lower - Wait to earn more rewards - Swap at market rate

EGrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:23:40 EST

Why don’t these options mention the possibility of buying USUAL on the market to accumulate what’s necessary for the 1:1 redemption? Can’t this also be an option?

Noérole-iconzero

Lucas⚡role-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:23:20 EST

Does this mean that at the time of the early redemption feature’s launch, the early redemption fee will be zero?

Inrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:22:47 EST

Oh, I can't add an emoticon. I think that's a good question.

Peter Panrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:22:09 EST

Hi, when burning usual for 1:1 unstake,do we need to prepare usual tokens to burn or it can automatically swap some usd0++ to usual and to burn it?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:21:40 EST

basically

Lucas⚡role-iconWhat does “minimal cost” mean? Could you provide more specific information?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:21:36 EST

zero

Noérole-iconWe are starting historical redemption tracking from the moment we launch the Early Redemption feature. Meaning, at the time of launch, you'll have the minimal cost. It's an amount in USUAL, not USD. It doesn't mean that this amount is "fixed" tho, since it depends on the parameters of the function (weekly outflows, time before maturity etc.).

Lucas⚡role-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:21:27 EST

What does “minimal cost” mean? Could you provide more specific information?

heranyxrole-iconNow the next question is, what is the dao redemption target?

Mello.ethrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:19:35 EST

@NoéSame question, what is the maximum redemption amount of USD 0++ set per week?

Inrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:19:20 EST

haha where is dao

Noérole-iconWe are starting historical redemption tracking from the moment we launch the Early Redemption feature. Meaning, at the time of launch, you'll have the minimal cost. It's an amount in USUAL, not USD. It doesn't mean that this amount is "fixed" tho, since it depends on the parameters of the function (weekly outflows, time before maturity etc.).

heranyxrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:15:32 EST

Now the next question is, what is the dao redemption target?

Gunner funkrole-iconTron is actuality facing this issue right now. If the price rises too much, majority of the 3rd worlders who mostly use Tron network will abandon it

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:15:25 EST

is it zero ? why not zero so 3rd worlder can use tron for free.

BingChillingrole-iconsame logic if eth goes to zero you can pay gas fee for free if usd worth zero you can buy LA mansion for free

Gunner funkrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:14:35 EST

Tron is actuality facing this issue right now. If the price rises too much, majority of the 3rd worlders who mostly use Tron network will abandon it

Nickniurole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:14:15 EST

跌成屎了

Noérole-iconRewards for USD0++ or USUALx sir?

codwarzonerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:14:11 EST

USUALx

Noérole-iconWe are starting historical redemption tracking from the moment we launch the Early Redemption feature. Meaning, at the time of launch, you'll have the minimal cost. It's an amount in USUAL, not USD. It doesn't mean that this amount is "fixed" tho, since it depends on the parameters of the function (weekly outflows, time before maturity etc.).

EGrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:13:53 EST

Hi Noè, I didn't understand one thing: will the amount in usual necessary to redeem 1:1 USD0+ be the same for all users, or will it depend on the time each user has spent in the system?

codwarzonerole-icon@Noé Are the rewards still not showing up or is there a problem with my dapp?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:13:11 EST

Rewards for USD0++ or USUALx sir?

codwarzonerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:12:44 EST

@Noé Are the rewards still not showing up or is there a problem with my dapp?

Gunner funkrole-iconThat's flawed, should have been USD value. Now if the usual price crashes to nothing, usd0++ stakers will buy them for cheap and exit

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:12:16 EST

same logic if eth goes to zero you can pay gas fee for free if usd worth zero you can buy LA mansion for free

Lucas⚡role-icon@Noé Please answer. How is the first week applied? There were no outflows last week. Do we just go with the median of 3 months? And is the early redemption fee calculated based on USD value or fixed amount of USUAL tokens?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:11:10 EST

We are starting historical redemption tracking from the moment we launch the Early Redemption feature. Meaning, at the time of launch, you'll have the minimal cost. It's an amount in USUAL, not USD. It doesn't mean that this amount is "fixed" tho, since it depends on the parameters of the function (weekly outflows, time before maturity etc.).

Gunner funkrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:09:50 EST

That's flawed, should have been USD value. Now if the usual price crashes to nothing, usd0++ stakers will buy them for cheap and exit

codwarzonerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:09:36 EST

Are your rewards showing up?

devisse.role-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:08:59 EST

They still Yappin?

LukeOnChainrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:08:51 EST

Can pendle PT holders redeem at 1:1? Currently i have an negative APY on them (instead of 20-30%) . No USUAL Tokens were generated currently because it was a PT (lol)

JZrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:07:48 EST

so where is the current distribution rate?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:05:13 EST

I'm not an AI

Lucas⚡role-icon@Noé Please answer. How is the first week applied? There were no outflows last week. Do we just go with the median of 3 months? And is the early redemption fee calculated based on USD value or fixed amount of USUAL tokens?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:05:04 EST

Hi, as I previously said, I'm double checking

Lucas⚡role-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:04:26 EST

@Noé Please answer. How is the first week applied? There were no outflows last week. Do we just go with the median of 3 months? And is the early redemption fee calculated based on USD value or fixed amount of USUAL tokens?

kkk666role-iconI agree to burn the gains, but only the gains that have been obtained, not the future potential gains. What’s the difference between this and being a robber? Do you think users are fools who can’t sue you?

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:04:05 EST

when u buy u agree to stake 4 years lock version of usd0 now you want exit after days cmon mate

kkk666role-iconI agree to burn the gains, but only the gains that have been obtained, not the future potential gains. What’s the difference between this and being a robber? Do you think users are fools who can’t sue you?

TakTokrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:03:26 EST

我日他麻里逼👍

kkk666role-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:03:26 EST

I agree to burn the gains, but only the gains that have been obtained, not the future potential gains. What’s the difference between this and being a robber? Do you think users are fools who can’t sue you?

RustyRocketrole-iconThe USD0 amount that I see in the app under Earn, I get paid that value monthly?

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:03:01 EST

yes

Noérole-iconHi, USD0++ is a Liquid Bond Token, a staked version of USD0 for 4-years. This means, as described in our docs, that there is no cost-free option to redeem at parity on the primary market. You have multiple options: hold and get rewarded, Early Redeem, swap at market price or redeem at Floor.

skyrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:03:01 EST

We see lots of Liquid Bond Token, but none of them like usd0++, by 1:1 staking ratio, but 1:0.87 redemption ratio

RustyRocketrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:02:50 EST

The USD0 amount that I see in the app under Earn, I get paid that value monthly?

JZrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:02:28 EST

The 1:1 Early Unstaking feature will be live on the dApp tomorrow, along with all associated rules, giving users the option to choose between farming and unstaking strategies. Early Unstaking allows 1:1 exits with up to 180 days of rewards in USUAL. Those USUAL tokens will be partially burned and redistributed, as outlined in the Whitepaper. ​ what is the calculation rule?

SatoshiXXXrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:02:05 EST

Exactly, before the early unstaking reature is implemented. Did you read that?

burnsrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:01:01 EST

You created a breakdown of trust

Lucas⚡role-iconwhen do you think you'll be able to answer?

Lucas⚡role-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:00:53 EST

@Noé when do you think you'll be able to answer? And is the early redemption fee calculated based on USD value or fixed amount of USUAL tokens?

SatoshiXXXrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:00:37 EST

There is no such thing in the white paper, read that

nickyyyy7228role-icon

01/13/2025 at 11:00:26 EST

has morpho liquidation ended?when give profit to usualx holders?

savasadar.ethrole-iconI know but this mean much more money loosing for me. There should be a scenario where people can withdraw their principal without losing money just because they use your platform. We are willing to return the received rewards, but you ask us to give you some of our own money, not your rewards. You have to fix this.

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:59:50 EST

Hi, USD0++ is a Liquid Bond Token, a staked version of USD0 for 4-years. This means, as described in our docs, that there is no cost-free option to redeem at parity on the primary market. You have multiple options: hold and get rewarded, Early Redeem, swap at market price or redeem at Floor.

LukeOnChainrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:59:33 EST

What happend with the Difference between 0.87$ (cost of a 4y bond) and 1$ by staking 1$ USD0. The treasury already generated 13% Revenue for each $1 staked? Or more t-bills have been bought?

Noérole-iconHi, this sentence is a more concise version of the whitepaper, where lies all the details, implemented as they are described there. You can also simply swap at market rate or at Floor if you wish to.

savasadar.ethrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:58:29 EST

I know but this mean much more money loosing for me. There should be a scenario where people can withdraw their principal without losing money just because they use your platform. We are willing to return the received rewards, but you ask us to give you some of our own money, not your rewards. You have to fix this.

burnsrole-iconWhy did you write on the pledge page that you were burning part of the proceeds already obtained, and now you are backtracking, are you targeting our wallets to gain profits for yourself?

burnsrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:57:01 EST

Why did you write on the pledge page that you were burning part of the proceeds already obtained, and now you are backtracking, are you targeting our wallets to gain profits for yourself?

Noérole-iconHi, I'm double checking on that before answering

Lucas⚡role-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:55:42 EST

when do you think you'll be able to answer?

savasadar.ethrole-icon“Once launched, this feature will let users unstake their USD0 early by burning their accumulated USUAL yield.” This sentence is from your docs. So I shouldn’t have to give a 6-month reward back to withdraw the token I staked 15 days ago. Am I going to go buy Usual to get my own money back, nonsense. Also, stop saying LST to USD0++, this is not LST!

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:54:53 EST

it is LST (liquid staking token) lol LBTC is also LST when you buy LBTC you cant redeem 1:1 if btc price drop

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:54:46 EST

Hi, it's outlined in our whitepaper

10:53:39

there is multiple options available here

kkk666role-iconThis is very unreasonable. It should be the burned portions of the previously accrued profits. This is stated in your previous documents.

kkk666role-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:53:24 EST

This is very unreasonable. It should be the burned portions of the previously accrued profits. This is stated in your previous documents.

kkk666role-iconI want to know, I bought USD 0 and staked it for USD 0++ only a few days. Does this mean I have to burn the usual for the next 180 days to exit? In other words, does it mean I incur a loss of 13% right from the start?

andrucryptrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:52:58 EST

yep, it does, as for a lot of people here )

burnsrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:52:54 EST

Why did you write on the pledge page that you would burn part of the proceeds already obtained, and now you are backtracking, are you targeting our principal?

savasadar.ethrole-icon“Once launched, this feature will let users unstake their USD0 early by burning their accumulated USUAL yield.” This sentence is from your docs. So I shouldn’t have to give a 6-month reward back to withdraw the token I staked 15 days ago. Am I going to go buy Usual to get my own money back, nonsense. Also, stop saying LST to USD0++, this is not LST!

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:52:45 EST

Hi, this sentence is a more concise version of the whitepaper, where lies all the details, implemented as they are described there. You can also simply swap at market rate or at Floor if you wish to.

kkk666role-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:51:48 EST

I want to know, I bought USD 0 and staked it for USD 0++ only a few days. Does this mean I have to burn the usual for the next 180 days to exit? In other words, does it mean I incur a loss of 13% right from the start?

Noérole-iconHi, the Early Redemption fee isn't based on your holding time, it is based on the weekly outflows, current reward rate, time before maturity and so on. This amount can vary between zero, and, at most, the equivalent of 180 days worth of rewards. This means that if you only staked 15 days ago, depending on the weekly outflows and other parameters, if you get the maximum fee, the amount can be higher than what you already earned. This means that you either: - Wait for outflows and other parameters to be lower, meaning, the Early Redemption fee to be lower - Wait to earn more rewards - Swap at market rate

savasadar.ethrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:51:44 EST

“Once launched, this feature will let users unstake their USD0 early by burning their accumulated USUAL yield.” This sentence is from your docs. So I shouldn’t have to give a 6-month reward back to withdraw the token I staked 15 days ago. Am I going to go buy Usual to get my own money back, nonsense. Also, stop saying LST to USD0++, this is not LST!

Lucas⚡role-iconi'm waiting!

大屌萌妹李达康role-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:51:08 EST

i‘m waiting too

Noérole-iconHi, I'm double checking on that before answering

Lucas⚡role-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:50:42 EST

i'm waiting!

FlyingArrowzrole-iconhe's talking about morpho pool

Ekosonerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:49:29 EST

Oh yh no, no chance. Only solution would be for team to allow 1:1 redemptions with no penalty and leveraged position to be unwind

Lucas⚡role-icon@Noé Please answer the question.

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:49:28 EST

Hi, I'm double checking on that before answering

roccosplorerrole-icon@Noé So please correct me if I am wrong, I will able to unstake my USD0++ for USD0 at 1:1 ratio? A UI will be provided for this?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:49:04 EST

Yes you will, as per our previous announcement, in exchange for an amount of $USUAL tokens.

Ekosonerole-iconNot really, backing at over 100%. Usual treasury holds USYC to cover most if not entire of TVL rn

FlyingArrowzrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:46:59 EST

he's talking about morpho pool

Lentlyrole-iconTechnically the pool's liabilities exceed its assets, which is making withdrawals difficult

Ekosonerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:45:28 EST

Not really, backing at over 100%. Usual treasury holds USYC to cover most if not entire of TVL rn

roccosplorerrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:45:18 EST

@Noé So please correct me if I am wrong, I will able to unstake my USD0++ for USD0 at 1:1 ratio? A UI will be provided for this?

Shaunrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:45:02 EST

I sincerely plead with you to consider the situation of revolving loan users. I am more than willing to hold USD0+ for 180 days, but since I borrowed USD0+ on Morpho and need to retain all of my Usual, I have already borne several times the principal in interest. After six months, the interest will approach the amount of my principal, which I simply cannot afford. I am truly willing to hold for 180 days. Could you please give us a chance to survive?

Nickniurole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:44:09 EST

nightmare

しょうしrole-iconI deposited USDC in the PT-USD0++-27MAR2025 / USDC pool, but now has Bad Debt. I can’t withdraw my USDC. I hope the team can resolve this issue

Lentlyrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:41:41 EST

Technically the pool's liabilities exceed its assets, which is making withdrawals difficult

Lucas⚡role-iconHow is the first week applied? There were no outflows last week. Do we just go with the median of 3 months?

Lucas⚡role-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:41:28 EST

@Noé Please answer the question.

DrvGonerole-iconCan we roughly assume that the current APY of USD0++ is 23% and that if it is 180 days, then 10000USD0++ will require 1150$ worth of Usual? Or does the UI that will be reflected also show the required quantity?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:39:54 EST

The UI will show you all the details sir

DrvGonerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:39:29 EST

Can we roughly assume that the current APY of USD0++ is 23% and that if it is 180 days, then 10000USD0++ will require 1150$ worth of Usual? Or does the UI that will be reflected also show the required quantity?

しょうしrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:39:03 EST

I deposited USDC in the PT-USD0++-27MAR2025 / USDC pool, but now has Bad Debt. I can’t withdraw my USDC. I hope the team can resolve this issue

Lucas⚡role-iconHow is the first week applied? There were no outflows last week. Do we just go with the median of 3 months?

大屌萌妹李达康role-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:38:27 EST

Same question how about first week

Noérole-iconHi, the Early Redemption fee isn't based on your holding time, it is based on the weekly outflows, current reward rate, time before maturity and so on. This amount can vary between zero, and, at most, the equivalent of 180 days worth of rewards. This means that if you only staked 15 days ago, depending on the weekly outflows and other parameters, if you get the maximum fee, the amount can be higher than what you already earned. This means that you either: - Wait for outflows and other parameters to be lower, meaning, the Early Redemption fee to be lower - Wait to earn more rewards - Swap at market rate

Lucas⚡role-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:37:00 EST

How is the first week applied? There were no outflows last week. Do we just go with the median of 3 months?

yecine4686role-iconhello i am searching for circulating supply growth of usual token is there a way to find historical values ? or a chart ?

basedscarfrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:36:56 EST

# 🔗ㆍofficial-links dune

yecine4686role-iconhello i am searching for circulating supply growth of usual token is there a way to find historical values ? or a chart ?

Fadirole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:36:27 EST

https://dune.com/usual_team/usual

Noérole-iconShould be real time sir

skyrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:35:58 EST

thx

oldjonexxrole-iconI sincerely plead with you to consider the situation of revolving loan users. I am more than willing to hold USD0+ for 180 days, but since I borrowed USD0+ on Morpho and need to retain all of my Usual, I have already borne several times the principal in interest. After six months, the interest will approach the amount of my principal, which I simply cannot afford. I am truly willing to hold for 180 days. Could you please give us a chance to survive?

Ekosonerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:35:03 EST

This, same situation for me

yecine4686role-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:34:59 EST

hello i am searching for circulating supply growth of usual token is there a way to find historical values ? or a chart ?

skyrole-iconhi Noe, will the redemption rate vary in real time, or vary weekly?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:34:14 EST

Should be real time sir

Noérole-iconHi, the Early Redemption fee isn't based on your holding time, it is based on the weekly outflows, current reward rate, time before maturity and so on. This amount can vary between zero, and, at most, the equivalent of 180 days worth of rewards. This means that if you only staked 15 days ago, depending on the weekly outflows and other parameters, if you get the maximum fee, the amount can be higher than what you already earned. This means that you either: - Wait for outflows and other parameters to be lower, meaning, the Early Redemption fee to be lower - Wait to earn more rewards - Swap at market rate

oldjonexxrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:34:12 EST

I sincerely plead with you to consider the situation of revolving loan users. I am more than willing to hold USD0+ for 180 days, but since I borrowed USD0+ on Morpho and need to retain all of my Usual, I have already borne several times the principal in interest. After six months, the interest will approach the amount of my principal, which I simply cannot afford. I am truly willing to hold for 180 days. Could you please give us a chance to survive?

ngocbeo1121role-iconmost likely will make its price at 0.95

Lucas⚡role-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:33:53 EST

source?

Noérole-iconHi, the Early Redemption fee isn't based on your holding time, it is based on the weekly outflows, current reward rate, time before maturity and so on. This amount can vary between zero, and, at most, the equivalent of 180 days worth of rewards. This means that if you only staked 15 days ago, depending on the weekly outflows and other parameters, if you get the maximum fee, the amount can be higher than what you already earned. This means that you either: - Wait for outflows and other parameters to be lower, meaning, the Early Redemption fee to be lower - Wait to earn more rewards - Swap at market rate

skyrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:33:43 EST

hi Noe, will the redemption rate vary in real time, or vary weekly?

Nanobrorole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:33:15 EST

community content channel somewhere?

FlyingArrowzrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:32:33 EST

Lmao expecting lots of exit once it's live and USUAL price to pump

savasadar.ethrole-iconYou won’t ask for the 180-day reward back from someone who staked 15 days ago, right? @Noé

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:31:07 EST

Hi, the Early Redemption fee isn't based on your holding time, it is based on the weekly outflows, current reward rate, time before maturity and so on. This amount can vary between zero, and, at most, the equivalent of 180 days worth of rewards. This means that if you only staked 15 days ago, depending on the weekly outflows and other parameters, if you get the maximum fee, the amount can be higher than what you already earned. This means that you either: - Wait for outflows and other parameters to be lower, meaning, the Early Redemption fee to be lower - Wait to earn more rewards - Swap at market rate

123。role-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:30:32 EST

咋还输入呢

Fadirole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:29:24 EST

@Noé Maybe you can remove the pinned tweet from 7th on X , so today's announcement will be on top?

savasadar.ethrole-iconYou won’t ask for the 180-day reward back from someone who staked 15 days ago, right? @Noé

jim111597role-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:28:40 EST

That's what I was wondering too.

jim111597role-iconwell, can somebody from a team bring some clarity here? "The 1:1 Early Unstaking feature will be live on the dApp tomorrow, along with all associated rules, giving users the option to choose between farming and unstaking strategies. Early Unstaking allows 1:1 exits with up to 180 days of rewards in USUAL. Those USUAL tokens will be partially burned and redistributed, as outlined in the Whitepaper." exit in 1:1 ration with a up to 180 days of rewards or for a price of a up to 180 days of rewards

savasadar.ethrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:27:58 EST

You won’t ask for the 180-day reward back from someone who staked 15 days ago, right? @Noé

Sammyyrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:27:10 EST

thanks BCL

JonoVDMrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:26:49 EST

Hey @Noé ! Thanks for the update you just posted. Will the functionality to withdraw via burning usual be on a brand new smart contract or the usd0++ existing smart contract? I need to know for my fireblocks setup 🙏

Sammyyrole-icon@BingChilling hey icecream, the revenue switch protocol started today, from my understanding USUALx holders who have completed weekly epoch will get rewarded in liquidity USD0 not USD0++ meaning USUALx holder will receive this reward on 20 Jan?

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:26:22 EST

yes

dΞrkfingah | SBCrole-iconDa fuq is UTC+0 ... ? This is not a time ... is it? It's a time zone lol

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:26:11 EST

Monday UTC+0 means when today started in the UTC+0 timezone

jim111597role-iconwell, can somebody from a team bring some clarity here? "The 1:1 Early Unstaking feature will be live on the dApp tomorrow, along with all associated rules, giving users the option to choose between farming and unstaking strategies. Early Unstaking allows 1:1 exits with up to 180 days of rewards in USUAL. Those USUAL tokens will be partially burned and redistributed, as outlined in the Whitepaper." exit in 1:1 ration with a up to 180 days of rewards or for a price of a up to 180 days of rewards

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:25:03 EST

for a price of up to 180 days of rewards, see https://discord.com/channels/1106588534871179280/1107144153076347022/1328383987948982304

dΞrkfingah | SBCrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:24:42 EST

Da fuq is UTC+0 ... ? This is not a time ... is it? It's a time zone lol

jim111597role-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:24:19 EST

well, can somebody from a team bring some clarity here? "The 1:1 Early Unstaking feature will be live on the dApp tomorrow, along with all associated rules, giving users the option to choose between farming and unstaking strategies. Early Unstaking allows 1:1 exits with up to 180 days of rewards in USUAL. Those USUAL tokens will be partially burned and redistributed, as outlined in the Whitepaper." exit in 1:1 ration with a up to 180 days of rewards or for a price of a up to 180 days of rewards

oldjonexxrole-iconi do not understand Early Unstaking allows 1:1 exits with up to 180 days of rewards in USUAL.???

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:23:42 EST

It means that the maximum Early Redemption fee is equal to 180 days of rewards.

oldjonexxrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:19:15 EST

i do not understand Early Unstaking allows 1:1 exits with up to 180 days of rewards in USUAL.???

Sammyyrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:17:31 EST

@BingChilling hey icecream, the revenue switch protocol started today, from my understanding USUALx holders who have completed weekly epoch will get rewarded in liquidity USD0 not USD0++ meaning USUALx holder will receive this reward on 20 Jan?

Suminarole-iconis the UI for early exit+burn Usual available yet?

ngocbeo1121role-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:11:11 EST

most likely will make its price at 0.95

Lucas⚡role-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:10:36 EST

the usual burn rate was determined?

Suminarole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:09:29 EST

is the UI for early exit+burn Usual available yet?

juanbugrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:09:10 EST

did we get news on the Usd0++ redemption stuff yet? /when are we supposed to get news?

kaiijrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:05:23 EST

This place really could use better upfront and more precise docs, so much wishy washy going on. (Same with the redemption accrued vs prospective)

kaiijrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:03:20 EST

Not really, cuz usual lists there. I can tell there's not a good economic rationale, it's operational

BingChillingrole-iconjust in: bitcoin is a ponzi
Grpprofesionalrole-iconWell then, I'd ask Pendle themselves.

Usualrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:02:07 EST

⚠️ Always be careful

- Always check that someone trying to help you is part of the team (verify his roles). - No team member will DM you or ask for you to send him a DM. - No team member will ask you to click on a link for assistance. - To avoid any scam attempts, always ask for help through # 📩ㆍsupport-contact

kaiijrole-iconI m saying they use it in broad sense in pendle, tradfi has 2k pages of underlying legal documents

Grpprofesionalrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:02:07 EST

Well then, I'd ask Pendle themselves.

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:02:06 EST

just in: bitcoin is a ponzi

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kaiijrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:01:32 EST

I m saying they use it in broad sense in pendle, tradfi has 2k pages of underlying legal documents

kaiijrole-iconThey use yield in broad sense it includes points carry airdrops etc. If u want to exclude should be really precise about it

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:01:04 EST

it was precise that yt/pt/lp is excluded ? you can choose usual + more usual or usual + usd0

kaiijrole-iconThey use yield in broad sense it includes points carry airdrops etc. If u want to exclude should be really precise about it

Grpprofesionalrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:00:45 EST

So why do they separate yield from dividends in tradfi trading bro?

kaiijrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 10:00:06 EST

They use yield in broad sense it includes points carry airdrops etc. If u want to exclude should be really precise about it

Grpprofesionalrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:58:58 EST

I don't claim being a yields expert but afaik, yield and rev share are two separate things in tradfi trading, stock market, and all that stuff

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:58:51 EST

USUALx needs to be EOA-controlled in order to be eligible, not wrapped or in a smart contract

kaiijrole-iconMy point is that that rugs yt holders they bought rights to all yield of the underlying

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:58:34 EST

People lost money on yt is not something new. Thats the reason im never buy YT only for farming airdrop point.

kaiijrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:58:34 EST

And have no clue what your statement logically implies

09:57:23

My point is that that rugs yt holders they bought rights to all yield of the underlying

kaiijrole-iconYeah but why do pendle at all then if u are not planning or can't include this. That's a signicant part of total rewards

Grpprofesionalrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:57:14 EST

Not rlly, everyone will jump in so the rewards will dilute

kaiijrole-iconThere's no logic to that statement

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:56:03 EST

lol you compare ethena they also not givine yt ena fee switch. what's your point

kaiijrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:55:11 EST

There's no logic to that statement

kaiijrole-iconDon't understand what this means

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:54:46 EST

yt usualx holder not elligible for fee switch revenue. yt is for yield trading

BingChillingrole-icondoenst make sense yt for you to trading yield already got more yield from yt

kaiijrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:53:51 EST

Don't understand what this means

09:52:13

Yeah but why do pendle at all then if u are not planning or can't include this. That's a signicant part of total rewards

kaiijrole-iconPendle breaks income streams of the underlying in two parts but now suddenly they are like here's a new income stream but f$xk you.

Grpprofesionalrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:50:57 EST

It's bc they didn't make the pool to handle like that uysual.x only can do rev share to wallets or smart wallets

truthbeautyjusticerole-iconso if we are in pendle pools whats best action just wait?

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:50:35 EST

usd0++ or usualx ? lp ?

kaiijrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:50:02 EST

Pendle breaks income streams of the underlying in two parts but now suddenly they are like here's a new income stream but f$xk you.

kaiijrole-iconI mean same problem there but don't think there's anything confirmed there

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:49:29 EST

doenst make sense yt for you to trading yield already got more yield from yt

truthbeautyjusticerole-iconso if we are in pendle pools whats best action just wait?

Grpprofesionalrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:49:14 EST

Anything any of us can tell you would qualify as financial advise, so we ain't telling ya

truthbeautyjusticerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:48:41 EST

so if we are in pendle pools whats best action just wait?

kaiijrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:48:12 EST

I mean same problem there but don't think there's anything confirmed there

kaiijrole-iconFee switch would be the yield lol

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:46:01 EST

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BingChillingrole-iconyou get next next week epoch already started

TheoChrrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:45:59 EST

🙏

lapsangrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:44:00 EST

Does 1st snapshot of weekly rewards was already taken?

kaiijrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:43:34 EST

Yield isn't narrowly defined you know

BingChillingrole-iconyou still get yield ? but not fee switch ?

kaiijrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:42:30 EST

Fee switch would be the yield lol

Jayjay80role-iconEvery one is free to choose. I choosed usual i invested, i lost. I had to stop losses at 0.56 (money management) now if i buy again i will at 0.5 or 0.51 Question : announcement is about redem or big announcement ? We deserve a hint no ? Specially when losing 16k 😦

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:38:20 EST

to prevent frontrun like you lol not everybody hangout in discord. people should get the news fair same time in twitter

Noérole-iconHi, please refer to our previous announcements: # 📣ㆍannouncements

roccosplorerrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:38:01 EST

Yes sir. I checked. But I am clearing my confusion so I can take better decision.

Jayjay80role-iconEvery one is free to choose. I choosed usual i invested, i lost. I had to stop losses at 0.56 (money management) now if i buy again i will at 0.5 or 0.51 Question : announcement is about redem or big announcement ? We deserve a hint no ? Specially when losing 16k 😦

Gabeerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:37:11 EST

Selling at 0.56 to buy at 0.5 isn't investing. It's trading. And people trading are losing money. You lost. You didn't trade anything. Either you invest (buy, long term hold), or you trade (short term).

kaiijrole-iconAnswer doesn't make any sense. It's like ethena yt susde wouldn't pay out the carry yield

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:37:08 EST

you still get yield ? but not fee switch ?

roccosplorerrole-iconI bought it at a dollar and now I check its lost its value. Why ask to stake USD0 and promise the yield?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:37:02 EST

Hi, please refer to our previous announcements: # 📣ㆍannouncements

roccosplorerrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:36:57 EST

I am really confused. Ok fine it is a bond, backed by the same amount of USD0 right? So ATLEAST it should be 1 dollar right? Or am I mistaken?

roccosplorerrole-iconI bought it at a dollar and now I check its lost its value. Why ask to stake USD0 and promise the yield?

Usualrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:34:50 EST

⚠️ Always be careful

- Always check that someone trying to help you is part of the team (verify his roles). - No team member will DM you or ask for you to send him a DM. - No team member will ask you to click on a link for assistance. - To avoid any scam attempts, always ask for help through # 📩ㆍsupport-contact

roccosplorerrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:34:49 EST

I bought it at a dollar and now I check its lost its value. Why ask to stake USD0 and promise the yield?

Gabeerole-iconYou panicked. That's the problem. If you're panicking, don't invest. I'm not gatekeeping you. If you're panicking, don't ruin your life, don't stress, don't invest.

Jayjay80role-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:34:15 EST

Every one is free to choose. I choosed usual i invested, i lost. I had to stop losses at 0.56 (money management) now if i buy again i will at 0.5 or 0.51 Question : announcement is about redem or big announcement ? We deserve a hint no ? Specially when losing 16k 😦

Noérole-iconHi, USD0++ is not a stablecoin, it's a Liquid Bond Token (USD0 locked for 4 years), as per our whitepaper, docs, and website. You can check our latest # 📣ㆍannouncements about the situation.

大屌萌妹李达康role-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:32:22 EST

As a liquid bond token! Why we buy usd0++ at 1 other 0.87?

savasadar.ethrole-iconWhen early unstake will be ready?

Grpprofesionalrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:32:19 EST

This makes me think if early unstake by burning USUAL gets released all the jeeters will burn a bunch of USUAL which means that the USUAL/USUAL.x ratio will change and therefore the "staking %" will increase hmmm :stonks:

roccosplorerrole-icon@Noé Please explain why USD0++ is not pegged to a dollar right now. Am I mistaken it is a stable coin and not supposed to lose value?

Gabeerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:31:22 EST

USD0++ isn't a stablecoin. Never has been. It's a liquid bond token. Please check the documentation.

roccosplorerrole-icon@Noé Please explain why USD0++ is not pegged to a dollar right now. Am I mistaken it is a stable coin and not supposed to lose value?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:31:09 EST

Hi, USD0++ is not a stablecoin, it's a Liquid Bond Token (USD0 locked for 4 years), as per our whitepaper, docs, and website. You can check our latest # 📣ㆍannouncements about the situation.

BingChillingrole-iconit's literally yt token lmao not usualx

kaiijrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:31:06 EST

Answer doesn't make any sense. It's like ethena yt susde wouldn't pay out the carry yield

roccosplorerrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:30:21 EST

@Noé Please explain why USD0++ is not pegged to a dollar right now. Am I mistaken it is a stable coin and not supposed to lose value?

savasadar.ethrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:30:12 EST

When early unstake will be ready?

jim111597role-iconhey guys, please help me find usual's rwa/collater analytic or transparency page

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:27:59 EST

Hi, our smart contracts are available here: https://docs.usual.money/resources-and-ecosystem/smart-contracts

jim111597role-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:27:23 EST

hey guys, please help me find usual's rwa/collater analytic or transparency page

Le Tranrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:22:17 EST

when stake $Usual on Arbitrum sir ?

Fadirole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:20:55 EST

40% of $USUAL is staked. This is ~208M tokens .Scarcity is a key!

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xun2xrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:18:42 EST

When early unstake ready ser ?

kaiijrole-iconHow in God's name is fee switch income not "yield", and part of yt token.

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:15:58 EST

it's literally yt token lmao not usualx

lofirole-iconvery good luck

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:14:24 EST

nahh there is no luck

kaiijrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:13:04 EST

How in God's name is fee switch income not "yield", and part of yt token.

BingChillingrole-iconyes so ? i'm 500% my money if it back to $1 + i'm getting apy for long from funding rate ?

lofirole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:12:03 EST

very good luck

lofirole-icondo you know you don't get protocol reward for holding perps

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:11:32 EST

yes so ? i'm 500% my money if it back to $1 + i'm getting apy for long from funding rate ?

TheoChrrole-iconguys hello, so if i stake now , no rewards until the start of next week correct?

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:10:31 EST

you get next next week epoch already started

Fadirole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:10:30 EST

I like the Love- hate relation between investors and Usual. Investors hate the latest incidents related to USD0++ , but deep inside they know it is a good project:)

BingChillingrole-iconwut math is not mathing lol

lofirole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:10:25 EST

do you know you don't get protocol reward for holding perps

TheoChrrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:07:43 EST

guys hello, so if i stake now , no rewards until the start of next week correct?

lofirole-iconlose 50% in a month and make 50% in a year

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:07:14 EST

wut math is not mathing lol

BingChillingrole-iconamaazing 42% apy holding long lmao cant make this up

lofirole-icon

01/13/2025 at 09:05:29 EST

lose 50% in a month and make 50% in a year

Le Tranrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:58:46 EST

when stake $Usual on Arbitrum sir ?

Lucasrole-iconIf you panic, you lose.

Gabeerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:55:40 EST

I’m a loser then

Lucasrole-iconIf you panic, you lose.

suetarole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:54:34 EST

exactly

Lucasrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:51:40 EST

If you panic, you lose.

Jayjay80role-iconWhat is the planned annoucement. I sold my usual panic sell and i m waiting a big announcement to be back in Is it only about redem ?

Gabeerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:49:15 EST

You panicked. That's the problem. If you're panicking, don't invest. I'm not gatekeeping you. If you're panicking, don't ruin your life, don't stress, don't invest.

Sama Do 👑role-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:48:59 EST

:Usual_HeadEmoji_InLove:

Jayjay80role-iconWhat is the planned annoucement. I sold my usual panic sell and i m waiting a big announcement to be back in Is it only about redem ?

basedscarfrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:48:23 EST

Guess we'll find out soon

Gabeerole-iconIt's a surprise

Jayjay80role-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:47:31 EST

What is the planned annoucement. I sold my usual panic sell and i m waiting a big announcement to be back in Is it only about redem ?

João Carvalhorole-iconSwap de usualx para usual não funciona

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:45:50 EST

Hi, please select your language in # 🌎ㆍlanguage-select or open a ticket in # 📩ㆍsupport-contact

João Carvalhorole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:42:31 EST

Swap de usualx para usual não funciona

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João Carvalhorole-iconUSUAL é scan, não estao deixando que eu troque as usualx por usual. Estou a horas tentando e tenho eth para a taxa de gás e não dá no site da usual no UNSTAKE não funciona

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:40:56 EST

# 🌎ㆍlanguage-select sir

João Carvalhorole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:39:56 EST

USUAL é scan, não estao deixando que eu troque as usualx por usual. Estou a horas tentando e tenho eth para a taxa de gás e não dá no site da usual no UNSTAKE não funciona

Ekosonerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:39:40 EST

So hold on, going over the docs and WP, is USD0++ equivalent/similar to a T-Bill?

HubristicFarmerrole-iconDo we know when this week the early redemption will be live? I’m generally sympathetic to the team but I don’t really get why they removed the floor before it was ready.

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:38:53 EST

This will be communicated today

Staceyrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:37:54 EST

gm

0xcomrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:35:48 EST

When will the exit dapp be launched?

Nuwan Dimuthurole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:35:29 EST

Please send me claim link

HubristicFarmerrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:33:47 EST

Do we know when this week the early redemption will be live? I’m generally sympathetic to the team but I don’t really get why they removed the floor before it was ready.

Mr. Linrole-iconHello ser, the rewards should be directly distributed to your wallet on a weekly basis.

Nanobrorole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:32:53 EST

do we snapshot start of epoch every week too?

Sammyyrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:31:13 EST

when would be the starting date that USUALx holder can see USD0 in their asset wallet?

Noérole-iconShould be yes - it will give more details and a price release date

uwurole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:29:57 EST

what is a price release date?

Noérole-iconShould be yes - it will give more details and a price release date

hanirole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:27:12 EST

I am exchanging usual for usualx, but the exchange rate has been falling? Will the exchange rate go up? When is the best time to exchange? Any reference?

Vincentporotrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:25:13 EST

Are the APY shown on the Curve pools now correct? @Noé

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:15:45 EST

https://tenor.com/view/aynepotter-gif-25663910

Lucasrole-iconmake sure it is well written to avoid misunderstandings again, please

vmelerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:15:35 EST

Want to bet that it's opening sentence will be, "As previously announced..." as if there really is nothing new in the announcement.

SatoshiXXXrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:15:01 EST

Yes agree, with all these attention from the fudder, we need to articulate the announcement as detail and as clear as possibly can

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:14:35 EST

lol

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Noérole-iconShould be yes - it will give more details and a price release date

Lucasrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:13:51 EST

make sure it is well written to avoid misunderstandings again, please

BingChillingrole-iconalpha here long usual hyperliquid you get 107% apy

ravishedrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:13:48 EST

🔥

ravishedrole-iconI'd rather stake and earn a safe 200+% APY as well as usd0

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:12:33 EST

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Sekirorole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:11:35 EST

so when

Mello.ethrole-icon@NoéAre you sure that the announcement of early redemption will be made during the day today, French time?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:11:15 EST

Should be yes - it will give more details and a price release date

BingChillingrole-iconlong in hyperliquid funding rate negative steal money from bear

ravishedrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:10:59 EST

I'd rather stake and earn a safe 200+% APY as well as usd0

zakukurole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:09:40 EST

all end

LN123321role-iconi though it's today

Lucasrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:09:22 EST

yes, it is today. But we don't know the time yet.

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:09:15 EST

bruhh i just long 15 min ago omegalul

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Mr. Lin

hanasaver

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goyounjung.

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João Carvalhorole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:09:02 EST

UNSTAKE it's not working

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Lucasrole-iconIts not live yet

LN123321role-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:08:15 EST

i though it's today

giugimrole-iconyeah but you're just long, need to find a place where I can short (or borrow & sell the token on a lending market) at a cheaper rate to hedge

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:08:12 EST

binance if you want to short

BingChillingrole-iconi use hyperliquid might as well farming the point

giugimrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:07:41 EST

yeah but you're just long, need to find a place where I can short (or borrow & sell the token on a lending market) at a cheaper rate to hedge

LN123321role-icondoes any body recieve reward from revenue switch

Lucasrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:07:15 EST

Its not live yet

Gabeerole-icon-107% It's a donation

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:07:04 EST

thats short position pay long lmao thanks for the donation bear

LN123321role-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:06:52 EST

does any body recieve reward from revenue switch

BingChillingrole-iconalpha here long usual hyperliquid you get 107% apy

Gabeerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:06:20 EST

-107% It's a donation

Gabeerole-iconFala pt? usa # 🌎ㆍlanguage-select e 🇧🇷 pf Show us what is not working @João Carvalho? Maybe you don't have enough gas (eth)

João Carvalhorole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:06:16 EST

Português br, i have ETH for gás

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:05:56 EST

alpha here long usual hyperliquid you get 107% apy

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Gabeerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:05:16 EST

Fala pt? usa # 🌎ㆍlanguage-select e 🇧🇷 pf Show us what is not working @João Carvalho? Maybe you don't have enough gas (eth)

ultralisk3669role-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:05:03 EST

may i know the rationale behind pendle usualX YTs not being eligible for the revenue switch?

Gabeerole-iconYes it's working. USUALx -> USUAL is a simple swap.

João Carvalhorole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:04:52 EST

it's not working

Lucasrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:04:29 EST

Some people are going crazy for no reason. Usual is down, but the whole market is down. Not a good metric. If the market were going up, and just usual going down id worry.

João Carvalhorole-iconUnstake USUALX it's not working

Gabeerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:04:07 EST

Yes it's working. USUALx -> USUAL is a simple swap.

João Carvalhorole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:03:49 EST

Unstake USUALX it's not working

MBP | Usual Code: Q2TC5role-iconah i see, and for 5M USD0 that is a total weekly rewards or monthly rewards?

Mr. Linrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:03:07 EST

the indicator would be monthly rewards ser

João Carvalhorole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:02:08 EST

UNSTAKE não está funcionando

Nickniurole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:01:25 EST

just 0.49.to be honest,so scary

giugimrole-iconjust give me a place to borrow the token so I can hedge, ty

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:01:22 EST

i use hyperliquid might as well farming the point

Nickniurole-iconwhat happened is usual price on second Market!

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:00:17 EST

mrket is market

BingChillingrole-iconamaazing 42% apy holding long lmao cant make this up

giugimrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 08:00:11 EST

just give me a place to borrow the token so I can hedge, ty

Nickniurole-icon

01/13/2025 at 07:59:06 EST

what happened is usual price on second Market!

MBP | Usual Code: Q2TC5role-iconah i see, and for 5M USD0 that is a total weekly rewards or monthly rewards?

Lunamanrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 07:59:02 EST

monthly

JordanHey guys, scrap the project, was a nice try, unfortunate how things worked out, kind regards

AlperenPacacioglurole-icon

01/13/2025 at 07:58:59 EST

Man just stop FUD.

Mr. Linrole-iconHello ser, the rewards should be directly distributed to your wallet on a weekly basis.

MBP | Usual Code: Q2TC5role-icon

01/13/2025 at 07:58:18 EST

ah i see, and for 5M USD0 that is a total weekly rewards or monthly rewards?

ngocbeo1121role-icon

01/13/2025 at 07:57:39 EST

morpho liquidations were done at 0.95 so I believe unstaking fee will start at that point

Mr. Linrole-iconHello ser, the rewards should be directly distributed to your wallet on a weekly basis.

0xjmslnrrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 07:56:46 EST

so no need to claim USD0?

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MBP | Usual Code: Q2TC5role-iconHello sir, as revenue switch live today, how can i claim it? and it can be claimed on daily, weekly pr monthly basis?

Mr. Linrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 07:56:29 EST

Hello ser, the rewards should be directly distributed to your wallet on a weekly basis.

MBP | Usual Code: Q2TC5role-icon

01/13/2025 at 07:56:02 EST

i mean claim the usd0 fee rewards.

07:54:58

Hello sir, as revenue switch live today, how can i claim it? and it can be claimed on daily, weekly pr monthly basis?

Mr. Linrole-iconno ser, you must hold usualx directly to be eligible for that.

0x1tuan.ethrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 07:54:55 EST

Thanks your ser

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Jordan

01/13/2025 at 07:54:00 EST

Hey guys, scrap the project, was a nice try, unfortunate how things worked out, kind regards

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 07:53:55 EST

amaazing 42% apy holding long lmao cant make this up

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Gabeerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 07:53:03 EST

Pack your suitcase

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 07:51:24 EST

long in hyperliquid funding rate negative steal money from bear

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zakukurole-icon

01/13/2025 at 07:49:49 EST

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Mello.ethrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 07:47:21 EST

@NoéAre you sure that the announcement of early redemption will be made during the day today, French time?

antdel7528role-icon

01/13/2025 at 07:46:28 EST

See you guys next year. Too much negativity and crybabies. Diamond 💎 🙌

Madmaxrole-iconFrom 1$ to .5🥲🥲

PECK (🚫🧢)role-icon

01/13/2025 at 07:44:57 EST

First time?

Madmaxrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 07:42:27 EST

From 1$ to .5🥲🥲

hanirole-iconWhat time will the announcement be released today?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 07:41:32 EST

Hi, I don't have a specific time to share at the moment

Noérole-iconDetails about it will be released today, along with other informations

hanirole-icon

01/13/2025 at 07:30:22 EST

What time will the announcement be released today?

kalamurole-icon

01/13/2025 at 07:29:55 EST

That’s another way show most crypto GAMBLERS do need some portfolio manager instead of directly managing their own assets

kalamurole-iconHow many people do not award USD0++ is a bond instead of stable coin itself

Lucas | 🇧🇷 🇵🇹role-icon

01/13/2025 at 07:27:29 EST

The acronym itself doesn't help either. Even more so for those who don't read or look for information 😅 😂

kalamurole-iconHow many people do not award USD0++ is a bond instead of stable coin itself

Gabeerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 07:24:35 EST

They don't think, they don't read, they don't check.

kalamurole-icon

01/13/2025 at 07:24:00 EST

How many people do not award USD0++ is a bond instead of stable coin itself

Lucas | 🇧🇷 🇵🇹role-icon

01/13/2025 at 07:19:07 EST

There are a lot of people out there thinking and saying that USD0++ is a stable coin and has lost its peg. FUD is widespread. Recovering this 1:1 would help a lot with my vision

savasadar.ethrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 07:18:51 EST

@Noé

basedscarfrole-iconJust wait

Frequencyrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 07:17:34 EST

Thanks

Frequencyrole-iconGuys, I exchanged the usual for usualx, do I need to do something else to receive the rewards apy or just wait?

basedscarfrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 07:17:20 EST

Just wait

Frequencyrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 07:15:30 EST

Guys, I exchanged the usual for usualx, do I need to do something else to receive the rewards apy or just wait?

0x1tuan.ethrole-iconi hold yt-usualx do i get rewards from monthly profits

Mr. Linrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 07:14:56 EST

no ser, you must hold usualx directly to be eligible for that.

0x1tuan.ethrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 07:13:27 EST

i hold yt-usualx do i get rewards from monthly profits

0x1tuan.ethrole-iconIs there any way I can avoid this 10% fee?

Grpprofesionalrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 07:05:22 EST

I explained that above fam. check the reply I gave to @Penquin about 40 minutes ago

Grpprofesionalrole-iconIf you want to unstake your USUAL.x to receive USUAL tokens, the native unstaking fee would charge you a 10% of the total USUAL held inside of those USUAL.x if there is a better exchange rate in the open markets, like any DEX the dapp will reroute the tx so you get that better price rather than unstaking the tokens and hitting you with that 10% fee

0x1tuan.ethrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:58:28 EST

Is there any way I can avoid this 10% fee?

ngocbeo1121role-iconis cheaper $usual make it cheaper to redeem $usd0++ as well?

Mateus Ballrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:57:55 EST

Ofc

ngocbeo1121role-iconis cheaper $usual make it cheaper to redeem $usd0++ as well?

VaeVictisrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:55:32 EST

100% IMO

ngocbeo1121role-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:55:18 EST

is cheaper $usual make it cheaper to redeem $usd0++ as well?

Vincentporotrole-iconWhere is the company behind Usual protocol registered? Can someone share details?

Ekosonerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:54:01 EST

Think it's France

Grpprofesionalrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:52:47 EST

Best results generally coming from balmy or llamaswap CoW still my fav bc it's MEV protected so if you're a rich kid with 100k tx, use MEV blocker at the very least

Vincentporotrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:44:42 EST

Where is the company behind Usual protocol registered? Can someone share details?

Grpprofesionalrole-iconIf you want to unstake your USUAL.x to receive USUAL tokens, the native unstaking fee would charge you a 10% of the total USUAL held inside of those USUAL.x if there is a better exchange rate in the open markets, like any DEX the dapp will reroute the tx so you get that better price rather than unstaking the tokens and hitting you with that 10% fee

0x1tuan.ethrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:41:15 EST

Fu dapp

BingChillingrole-iconyes but this is projected can go up/down

Grpprofesionalrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:24:12 EST

Yes ofc, just making a hypothetical scenario on my head to wrap it up consistently.

AlperenPacacioglurole-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:23:31 EST

Guys load up your usual now btc bottom soon. We will have a very nice retrace. Let's sent this to billions

Grpprofesionalrole-iconSo e.g. Your 6.15k will be paid in weekly proportional 7/31 installments something like 1.54k per week you'll get?

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:23:28 EST

yes but this is projected can go up/down

BingChillingrole-iconprojected reward / 4 you get per week

Grpprofesionalrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:23:10 EST

So e.g. Your 6.15k will be paid in weekly proportional 7/31 installments something like 1.54k per week you'll get?

Grpprofesionalrole-iconIf you want to unstake your USUAL.x to receive USUAL tokens, the native unstaking fee would charge you a 10% of the total USUAL held inside of those USUAL.x if there is a better exchange rate in the open markets, like any DEX the dapp will reroute the tx so you get that better price rather than unstaking the tokens and hitting you with that 10% fee

Penquinrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:22:06 EST

thanks

BingChillingrole-iconprojected reward / 4 you get per week

Klintarole-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:21:53 EST

Damn ball$r you’r nickname don’t lie

Penquinrole-iconDoes anyone know what this ''transaction routes through the secondary market'' means exactly?

Grpprofesionalrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:20:50 EST

If you want to unstake your USUAL.x to receive USUAL tokens, the native unstaking fee would charge you a 10% of the total USUAL held inside of those USUAL.x if there is a better exchange rate in the open markets, like any DEX the dapp will reroute the tx so you get that better price rather than unstaking the tokens and hitting you with that 10% fee

Grpprofesionalrole-iconWait monthly reward but weekly? Does this means that they will pay 7/31 of the displayed monthly rev share per week?

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:20:21 EST

projected reward / 4 you get per week

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Grpprofesionalrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:18:59 EST

What restrictions does the function has? As in ownable is assumed to be but what other restrictions specific to that function are in the contract?

BingChillingrole-iconYess. If you not held during epoch u gonna miss your monthly reward. You get the point.

Grpprofesionalrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:17:23 EST

Wait monthly reward but weekly? Does this means that they will pay 7/31 of the displayed monthly rev share per week?

Penquinrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:17:22 EST

Does anyone know what this ''transaction routes through the secondary market'' means exactly?

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14.11KB

tommyshelbersrole-iconepoches are weekly as well?

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:13:03 EST

Yess. If you not held during epoch u gonna miss your monthly reward. You get the point.

BingChillingrole-iconMonthly revenue but distributed weekly.

tommyshelbersrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:11:45 EST

epoches are weekly as well?

tommyshelbersrole-iconwhy is UI showing monthly even though its changed to weekly?

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:11:15 EST

Monthly revenue but distributed weekly.

tommyshelbersrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:10:40 EST

why is UI showing monthly even though its changed to weekly?

foxandwildgooserole-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:10:28 EST

I am one of usualx holders. But it's hard to see people calling usual deceiving and sxxm in Korean telegram community. I hope the team actively engage with communication and rebuild reputation. I think reputation is huge in this business.

Grpprofesionalrole-iconI think the only easy way is to derive it from the total minted of bot USUAL and USUAL.x and the value of one respective to the other. if you know how many USUAL per USUAL.x when staked you can derive the percentage staked if you have the total supply of them both coingecko stats show USUAL.x TS: 171,277,514 USUAL TS: 545,862,629 USUAL/USUAL.x : 1.1959

SwEePerrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:10:09 EST

thanks bro

SwEePerrole-iconin the apps only TVL

Grpprofesionalrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:06:29 EST

I think the only easy way is to derive it from the total minted of bot USUAL and USUAL.x and the value of one respective to the other. if you know how many USUAL per USUAL.x when staked you can derive the percentage staked if you have the total supply of them both coingecko stats show USUAL.x TS: 171,277,514 USUAL TS: 545,862,629 USUAL/USUAL.x : 1.1959

LN123321role-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:05:22 EST

can we claim revenue switch reward now ?

Lucasrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:01:58 EST

The whole market is going crazy LOL

Mello.ethrole-icon@NoéEarly redemption announcement is today?

Jayjay80role-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:01:52 EST

But this one every body knows whatbis the point annoucing it, people knew aince friday no ?

Mello.ethrole-icon@NoéEarly redemption announcement is today?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:01:16 EST

Details about it will be released today, along with other informations

Mello.ethrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:01:00 EST

@NoéEarly redemption announcement is today?

Jayjay80role-iconWich annoucement?

Gabeerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:00:33 EST

It's a surprise

JonoVDMrole-iconHey @Noé 🙂 Would you please you share if the next announcement will be today or tomorrow? Early next week would imply mon/tues and the waiting is killing me 😅

Jayjay80role-icon

01/13/2025 at 06:00:25 EST

Wich annoucement?

Noérole-iconNext announcement is today sir

JonoVDMrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:59:11 EST

Thank you!

JonoVDMrole-iconHey @Noé 🙂 Would you please you share if the next announcement will be today or tomorrow? Early next week would imply mon/tues and the waiting is killing me 😅

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:57:52 EST

Next announcement is today sir

Grpprofesionalrole-iconOoohh in the dapp

SwEePerrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:57:22 EST

in the apps only TVL

JonoVDMrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:57:10 EST

Hey @Noé 🙂 Would you please you share if the next announcement will be today or tomorrow? Early next week would imply mon/tues and the waiting is killing me 😅

SwEePerrole-iconI mean, how to see USUALx total lock overall

Grpprofesionalrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:56:25 EST

Ooohh in the dapp

Grpprofesionalrole-iconDebank or rabby wallet will show you exactly how many USUAL there are inside of your USUAL.x

SwEePerrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:56:11 EST

I mean, how to see USUALx total lock overall

SwEePerrole-icon@noe how to see how much USUALx total Lock? thanks

Grpprofesionalrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:55:04 EST

Debank or rabby wallet will show you exactly how many USUAL there are inside of your USUAL.x

SwEePerrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:53:31 EST

@noe how to see how much USUALx total Lock? thanks

Jappixrole-iconAnd do you realize that you're paying for something you already had?

Grpprofesionalrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:51:58 EST

"Realize" spot the murican lmao lmao welcome to trading, buckaroo

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unknown lrole-iconyou know the fee switch is paid in USD0 right? With about an 80% APY to start

Jappixrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:48:54 EST

And do you realize that you're paying for something you already had?

cesarpc1role-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:47:39 EST

Because you should have studied the project, brother, you don't know how to invest, you think you can just throw money at this and leave it

Noérole-iconFee switch is activated - announce with more details to come

Um Maromba Na Bolsarole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:47:05 EST

ok

cesarpc1role-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:45:42 EST

There are some people out there who really hate Usual, what was that, guys, I'm starting to get worried

nuttcrackerjackrole-iconDid it just activate ???

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:44:34 EST

Fee switch activated at UTC+0, just like announced previously

Noérole-iconFee switch is activated - announce with more details to come

nuttcrackerjackrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:44:20 EST

Did it just activate ???

Jappixrole-iconIt seems to me that the Team too often hides behind statements like: "there was a misunderstanding," "it was a communication error," "there was a temporary User Interface issue," etc. Now they’re even claiming that the data on Etherscan is fake... This place is full of people deluding themselves. Moreover, no percentage of profit makes sense if it’s paid in a token that keeps losing value. 200% of nothing is still nothing. And if someone invests in nothing just to redeem the USD0++ they hold, then they’re in a really bad spot. Apologies for the bluntness, but that’s what I think. And it might be useful to you, if you’re honest.

unknown lrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:43:49 EST

you know the fee switch is paid in USD0 right? With about an 80% APY to start

Um Maromba Na Bolsarole-iconAnnouncaments Today? Fee Switch or Not ?'

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:43:08 EST

Fee switch is activated - announce with more details to come

Noérole-iconThis is planned

Um Maromba Na Bolsarole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:42:49 EST

Announcaments Today? Fee Switch or Not ?'

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:42:21 EST

just like he said

olaff6283role-iconactivation of revenue switch is ultra bullish news why you don't announce that on twitter ?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:42:14 EST

This is planned

Mr. Linrole-iconWe are prioritizing on announcing revenue switch and early redemption details.

olaff6283role-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:42:03 EST

activation of revenue switch is ultra bullish news why you don't announce that on twitter ?

Massimorole-iconBonjour, J’aurais aimé savoir mes usual X que j’ai mis depuis une semaine minimum pourquoi je vois que ça rapporte toujours rien ?

Gabeerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:41:13 EST

# 🌎ㆍlanguage-select -> use the 🇫🇷 channel in french, thank you There are some messages sent in other languages, but why is it always the french speakers?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:35:33 EST

Price talks are done in # 🧐ㆍspeculation

Massimorole-iconBonjour, J’aurais aimé savoir mes usual X que j’ai mis depuis une semaine minimum pourquoi je vois que ça rapporte toujours rien ?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:31:02 EST

# 🤖ㆍtroubleshooting sir

Massimorole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:30:51 EST

Bonjour, J’aurais aimé savoir mes usual X que j’ai mis depuis une semaine minimum pourquoi je vois que ça rapporte toujours rien ?

Welington e Yasminrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:30:51 EST

Just buy back your usual ones and wait, look at Uniswap how the market in recent weeks, even in correction, injected significant amounts into the project in yield pools, we in the community who have larger amounts allocated have to be cool-headed to maintain the price to attract more small investors from the market

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People, don't be afraid, don't make your impermanent loss, this will only make the situation worse in the correction and scare away new investors, especially in Uniswap. Let's control our emotions, especially now that BTC is starting to lose dominance and the bull is just beginning, Altseason hasn't even started yet.

Noérole-iconLooking into it

Vincentporotrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:27:54 EST

What about the Morpho pool rewards? @Noé

basedscarfrole-iconThe data on etherscan isnt fake. Just the warped reality of some people reporting about these issues on twitter. I am sure team will follow up with a statement on how the bad debt on the old morpho market was handled

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:27:13 EST

Yes, that is planned

tommyshelbersrole-iconany specific utc timing for snapshot

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:26:43 EST

UTC+0 afaik

hahahahahahrole-iconWhat is the team's share in the dao? If the income is included in the dao, does it mean that most of it is actually taken away by the team?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:26:24 EST

Team and investors have USUAL*, not USUALx. This token has no right over the Revenue at the moment, only USUALx does.

Vincentporotrole-iconAny update @Noé

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:25:51 EST

Looking into it

hahahahahahrole-iconWhat is the team's share in the dao? If the income is included in the dao, does it mean that most of it is actually taken away by the team?

basedscarfrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:24:41 EST

The team and investors hold usual* and not usualx afaik

Noérole-iconAPY isn't controlled by the team. I'm checking right now what could've caused this decrease.

Vincentporotrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:24:36 EST

Any update @Noé

hahahahahahrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:23:02 EST

What is the team's share in the dao? If the income is included in the dao, does it mean that most of it is actually taken away by the team?

Noérole-iconYes, the weekly epoch started

tommyshelbersrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:22:26 EST

any specific utc timing for snapshot

Jappixrole-iconIt seems to me that the Team too often hides behind statements like: "there was a misunderstanding," "it was a communication error," "there was a temporary User Interface issue," etc. Now they’re even claiming that the data on Etherscan is fake... This place is full of people deluding themselves. Moreover, no percentage of profit makes sense if it’s paid in a token that keeps losing value. 200% of nothing is still nothing. And if someone invests in nothing just to redeem the USD0++ they hold, then they’re in a really bad spot. Apologies for the bluntness, but that’s what I think. And it might be useful to you, if you’re honest.

Mr. Linrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:22:00 EST

Every FUD and accusation was replied directly, and w/ regards to the etherscan, we had several similar transactions over the past 24 hrs or so and we have already explained the reason was to avoid bad debt on Morpho.

JoeJoerole-iconit had maked

olaff6283role-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:21:28 EST

Nop dear

olaff6283role-iconIt's an important milestone, why not made an announcement/statement on Twitter ?

Mr. Linrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:20:14 EST

We are prioritizing on announcing revenue switch and early redemption details.

olaff6283role-iconIt's an important milestone, why not made an announcement/statement on Twitter ?

JoeJoerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:20:12 EST

it had maked

Jappixrole-iconIt seems to me that the Team too often hides behind statements like: "there was a misunderstanding," "it was a communication error," "there was a temporary User Interface issue," etc. Now they’re even claiming that the data on Etherscan is fake... This place is full of people deluding themselves. Moreover, no percentage of profit makes sense if it’s paid in a token that keeps losing value. 200% of nothing is still nothing. And if someone invests in nothing just to redeem the USD0++ they hold, then they’re in a really bad spot. Apologies for the bluntness, but that’s what I think. And it might be useful to you, if you’re honest.

basedscarfrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:20:01 EST

The data on etherscan isnt fake. Just the warped reality of some people reporting about these issues on twitter. I am sure team will follow up with a statement on how the bad debt on the old morpho market was handled

Noérole-iconYes, the weekly epoch started

olaff6283role-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:18:48 EST

It's an important milestone, why not made an announcement/statement on Twitter ?

Jappixrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:18:08 EST

It seems to me that the Team too often hides behind statements like: "there was a misunderstanding," "it was a communication error," "there was a temporary User Interface issue," etc. Now they’re even claiming that the data on Etherscan is fake... This place is full of people deluding themselves. Moreover, no percentage of profit makes sense if it’s paid in a token that keeps losing value. 200% of nothing is still nothing. And if someone invests in nothing just to redeem the USD0++ they hold, then they’re in a really bad spot. Apologies for the bluntness, but that’s what I think. And it might be useful to you, if you’re honest.

Noérole-iconThe team can't redeem at parity: the protocol can. Usual has upheld its commitments and ensured that there is no bad debt for lenders on USDC markets, thereby avoiding any contamination. The details will be published, and the revenues will be reallocated to the DAO for USUALx.

KBG89role-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:14:28 EST

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La_Distinctionrole-iconI'm asking why only the team can redeem at parity. isn't it too arbitrary.

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:10:02 EST

The team can't redeem at parity: the protocol can. Usual has upheld its commitments and ensured that there is no bad debt for lenders on USDC markets, thereby avoiding any contamination. The details will be published, and the revenues will be reallocated to the DAO for USUALx.

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Noérole-iconWe redeemed at parity after liquidating positions on Morpho to avoid bad debt

La_Distinctionrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:09:12 EST

I'm asking why only the team can redeem at parity. isn't it too arbitrary.

Noérole-iconWe redeemed at parity after liquidating positions on Morpho to avoid bad debt

KBG89role-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:08:38 EST

Can I redeem at parity?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:07:49 EST

all proceeds will go back to stakers

05:07:44

We redeemed at parity after liquidating positions on Morpho to avoid bad debt

La_Distinctionrole-iconsir, which announcement? "Listening and Answering" doesn't explain anything

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:07:28 EST

The latest one

Noérole-iconThis is false

La_Distinctionrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:07:18 EST

sir, which announcement? "Listening and Answering" doesn't explain anything

icariothrole-iconThere is any ideas and plans how to increase usd0 tvl in team ?

KBG89role-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:06:58 EST

In team?

Noérole-iconYes, the weekly epoch started

icariothrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:06:18 EST

There is any ideas and plans how to increase usd0 tvl in team ?

antdel7528role-iconIs fee switch live?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:04:59 EST

Yes, the weekly epoch started

antdel7528role-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:04:38 EST

Is fee switch live?

antdel7528role-iconMan still so much FUD!

BingChillingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:04:22 EST

old news bro just back from cave lol

antdel7528role-iconMan still so much FUD!

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:03:47 EST

No

antdel7528role-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:03:36 EST

Man still so much FUD!

VaeVictisrole-iconthe previous high apy - was bug on ux/ui

Vincentporotrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:03:31 EST

A bug that lasted for days, that made investors make investment decisions, its a very critical bug if that's the case, it's misleading investors and providing false financial information

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:02:25 EST

See # 📣ㆍannouncements

La_Distinctionrole-iconhttps://x.com/BrutalTrade/status/1878412636317966676 only the team can always swap USD0++ for USD0 at a 1:1 rate?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:02:22 EST

This is false

KBG89role-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:02:15 EST

Classic lol

La_Distinctionrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:01:51 EST

https://x.com/BrutalTrade/status/1878412636317966676 only the team can always swap USD0++ for USD0 at a 1:1 rate?

\#Usual & \#USD0 : Meanwhile… the USUAL team converted 20,711,521 USD0\+\+ into 20,711,521 USDO at a 1:1 rate, and they’ll always be able to do so thanks to the unwrapPegMaintainer\(\) function\. 👏 Well played 👏 ▶️ One of their TX : https://t.co/F3EBaLcF93 ▶️ Function called :

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Vincentporotrole-iconwhat did the apy suddenly dropped without any changes in the pool? Is the APY controlled manually by the team? @Noé

VaeVictisrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:01:10 EST

the previous high apy - was bug on ux/ui

Noérole-iconAPY isn't controlled by the team. I'm checking right now what could've caused this decrease.

Vincentporotrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 05:00:01 EST

Thank you, please don't forget. I'm also waiting for comment on the Morpho rewards situation. @Noé

Vincentporotrole-iconwhat did the apy suddenly dropped without any changes in the pool? Is the APY controlled manually by the team? @Noé

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:55:42 EST

APY isn't controlled by the team. I'm checking right now what could've caused this decrease.

Vincentporotrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:53:39 EST

what did the apy suddenly dropped without any changes in the pool? Is the APY controlled manually by the team? @Noé

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Um Maromba Na Bolsarole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:53:35 EST

Will there be the news of the Switch fee today? or there will be no news, for us to understand about the Fee switch' from USUAL

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:52:12 EST

There is no material change, check the whitepaper.

Vincentporotrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:49:57 EST

this pool: https://app.morpho.org/market?id=0xa59b6c3c6d1df322195bfb48ddcdcca1a4c0890540e8ee75815765096c1e8971&network=mainnet is not generating any Usual rewards for over 40 hours. Is anyone else having this issue?

NovaByterole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:48:27 EST

ok and vice versa for usual x ok thx 😉

Noérole-icon180 days is the maximum fee, not necessarily the actual one, if you want to Early Redeem. Also, the market rate isn't -13%.

chilloutrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:48:14 EST

180 days of apr or apy?

Um Maromba Na Bolsarole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:47:21 EST

Do you know if today there will be news of the Fee Switch ?'

NovaByterole-iconwhat happens to USUAL after conversion to USUAL x ? is it burned, locked or reinjected into the circularing supply... thx

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:47:19 EST

It's locked into USUALx

NovaByterole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:46:46 EST

what happens to USUAL after conversion to USUAL x ? is it burned, locked or reinjected into the circularing supply... thx

Um Maromba Na Bolsarole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:46:18 EST

Do you know if today there will be news of the Fee Switch ?'

infinity91/ EremiticGangrole-iconBuongiorno vorrei convertire Usd0 in usd 0++ quando verrà distrutto però ai possessori di usualx? Non era oggi la distribuzione del revenue?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:45:55 EST

# 🌎ㆍlanguage-select

infinity91/ EremiticGangrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:40:55 EST

Buongiorno vorrei convertire Usd0 in usd 0++ quando verrà distrutto però ai possessori di usualx? Non era oggi la distribuzione del revenue?

rockkeatsrole-icon@NoéI directly exchanged pe usd0++ with usdt, I did not hold it and dug up the usual, if you know what I should do if I quit, please tell me how much I will lose

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:39:12 EST

Hi, as I said, I can't simulate it for you in advance. Please wait for the feature to be live.

Vincentporotrole-iconAny update on the Morpho pool rewards? @Noé

Vincentporotrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:39:02 EST

@Noé e please address this issue

ananasbrbrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:38:22 EST

When does this go live? Ie when will we be able to give back Usual to exit USDO++?

Noérole-iconWell it depends on if you hold until maturity (and have 1:1) or not, and, the secondary market rate, with the Early Redemption fee

rockkeatsrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:38:16 EST

@NoéI directly exchanged pe usd0++ with usdt, I did not hold it and dug up the usual, if you know what I should do if I quit, please tell me how much I will lose

nuttcrackerjackrole-iconIs there any plans to battle these fud galore lord's on twitter ? I expect the team has a healthy and weahtly funds to shine light on project. Time to use it?

Lunamanrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:38:03 EST

there is no bad marketing sir

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:36:14 EST

180 days is the maximum fee, not necessarily the actual one, if you want to Early Redeem. Also, the market rate isn't -13%.

dΞrkfingah | SBCrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:36:11 EST

7% on the open market.

xxxxrole-icon@NoéI don’t understand the formula. How much is the penalty for quitting?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:35:19 EST

Minimum is zero, maximum is 6 months of rewards at the rate when simulating. Depends on weekly outflows, current rate, time before maturity etc. You'll soon be able to simulate it, live.

xxxxrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:34:22 EST

@NoéI don’t understand the formula. How much is the penalty for quitting?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:34:18 EST

It could, since the maximum is 6 months at the rate whens simulating

rockkeatsrole-iconI know, but I'm not getting the usual gain, I'm buying pt, and I want to know how much of a loss I'm going to get out of it

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:32:13 EST

Well it depends on if you hold until maturity (and have 1:1) or not, and, the secondary market rate, with the Early Redemption fee

sandtrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:31:52 EST

When is the first vesting date for whales in January?

Noérole-iconYou'll be able to simulate the Early Redemption fee, live, early this week

rockkeatsrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:31:30 EST

I know, but I'm not getting the usual gain, I'm buying pt, and I want to know how much of a loss I'm going to get out of it

nuttcrackerjackrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:31:21 EST

Is there any plans to battle these fud galore lord's on twitter ? I expect the team has a healthy and weahtly funds to shine light on project. Time to use it?

rockkeatsrole-iconIt doesn't have the answers I'm looking for

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:30:04 EST

You'll be able to simulate the Early Redemption fee, live, early this week

Noérole-iconHi, please check our recent # 📣ㆍannouncements

rockkeatsrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:29:35 EST

It doesn't have the answers I'm looking for

rockkeatsrole-icon@Noépendle promotes usd0++ as a stablecoin, I bought pt, and now ++ is lower than 1, how much do I lose if I quit?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:27:20 EST

Hi, please check our recent # 📣ㆍannouncements

Willrole-iconAccording to the burn formula in the whitepaper, the redemption volume of USD0++ in the past week was significant, so parameter A is likely equal to 1, meaning a burn fee equivalent to 180 days would need to be paid.

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:26:33 EST

More details are to come

rockkeatsrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:26:14 EST

@Noépendle promotes usd0++ as a stablecoin, I bought pt, and now ++ is lower than 1, how much do I lose if I quit?

fredchan17999role-iconIt will count from this week, we should buy more USUAL 🤣

SwEePerrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:25:16 EST

Okay Bro😆

nuttcrackerjackrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:24:57 EST

Do I understand right, fee switch is today ?

Vincentporotrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:20:13 EST

Any update on the Morpho pool rewards? @Noé

Willrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:16:36 EST

According to the burn formula in the whitepaper, the redemption volume of USD0++ in the past week was significant, so parameter A is likely equal to 1, meaning a burn fee equivalent to 180 days would need to be paid.

Dookurole-iconWhen revenue switch is on, will there be an option to receive USD0 rewards in USUAL too?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:16:29 EST

For now, there's no option to auto convert your USD0 rewards into USUAL or USUALx - but it's a feature we keep in mind for later!

Noérole-iconIt will count for USD0 rewards, starting from this week, but there is no retroactive rewards on that

Dookurole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:15:25 EST

When revenue switch is on, will there be an option to receive USD0 rewards in USUAL too?

SwEePerrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:14:56 EST

Okay Sir, Thank you

SwEePerrole-iconI mean 20 days ago I already staked USUALx. Does this not count or will it accumulate next week?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:14:05 EST

It will count for USD0 rewards, starting from this week, but there is no retroactive rewards on that

Noérole-iconNo sir, only starting from this week!

SwEePerrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:13:42 EST

I mean 20 days ago I already staked USUALx. Does this not count or will it accumulate next week?

alishahabrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:13:15 EST

are the detail of early redemption is already clear? @Noé

xxxxrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:13:02 EST

@NoéI don’t understand the formula. How much is the penalty for quitting?

alishahabrole-iconwhen the early redemption for usd0++ start?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:12:35 EST

Early this week

SwEePerrole-iconOh, I misinterpreted it, I thought today the distribution of USD0 revenue. Will my staking results from 20 days ago be counted?

fredchan17999role-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:12:12 EST

It will count from this week, we should buy more USUAL 🤣

alishahabrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:12:09 EST

when the early redemption for usd0++ start?

Willrole-icon@Noé If redeemed early, can users actively choose different maturity dates, and does the burn ratio vary depending on the selected maturity date?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:11:40 EST

Hi, the maturity date for all USD0++ is the same: mid-2028.

SwEePerrole-iconOh, I misinterpreted it, I thought today the distribution of USD0 revenue. Will my staking results from 20 days ago be counted?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:11:15 EST

No sir, only starting from this week!

Noérole-iconToday is the activation: the weekly epoch starts. Then, at the end of the week (Sunday or Monday, details to come), the distribution will be done to stakers that followed the rules.

SwEePerrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:10:59 EST

Oh, I misinterpreted it, I thought today the distribution of USD0 revenue. Will my staking results from 20 days ago be counted?

Willrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:10:57 EST

@Noé If redeemed early, can users actively choose different maturity dates, and does the burn ratio vary depending on the selected maturity date?

leftpadrole-icondid the allocation laid out in the whitepapaer change? since usd0++/usd0 get a bigger share of usual emissions now. What are the updated allocations and can we view them on chain?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:10:24 EST

Hi, USD0/USD0++ actually gets a lower share of the emission at the moment. See the footnote:

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Investusrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:09:14 EST

Ok thanks for update, big boss 😁

leftpadrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:08:22 EST

did the allocation laid out in the whitepapaer change? since usd0++/usd0 get a bigger share of usual emissions now. What are the updated allocations and can we view them on chain?

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Investusrole-icon@Noé @Mava (AI Support) Are rewards already distributed?

Investusrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:06:50 EST

@Noé @Mava (AI Support) Are rewards already distributed?

Mello.ethrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:06:45 EST

@Noé Can I understand that the amount of repayment to usual is calculated based on the currency standard obtained from mining, rather than based on the USD0++ gold standard held by me?

Noérole-iconIt's difficult for me to comment on this, obviously. But my personal opinion is that USD0++'s fair value should be closer to 1 than to its Floor, because it yields more than the "risk-free rate" of its Floor increasing over time. This is only a personal opinion since you asked for one - but not an indicator of the team's opinion, desire or objective. Some food for thoughts: /status/1878046323586314702">https://x.com/jalah_/status/1878046323586314702

dvrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:05:51 EST

Ok thanks for the opinion! Yea i saw this post, i think he's off because he forgets the optionality to redeem. Also wanna make sure, if the price of USD0++ stays < 1 there will be 0 new mints isn't it ? Since i can buy on secondary market for much cheaper. Isn't it in usual's interest to repeg this ASAP so they can get more cashflow ? That's what i don't really understand. I think the team's intention is for USD0++ to mostly trade around USD0 (without guarantee) but if that's the case why no comms

SwEePerrole-icon@Noé I have been staking USUAL since December 19th, my question is, Activation on January 13th is just activation? not revenue distribution? when the revenue will distribute?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:05:15 EST

Today is the activation: the weekly epoch starts. Then, at the end of the week (Sunday or Monday, details to come), the distribution will be done to stakers that followed the rules.

SwEePerrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:04:13 EST

@Noé I have been staking USUAL since December 19th, my question is, Activation on January 13th is just activation? not revenue distribution? when the revenue will distribute?

kimchirole-iconcurrently curve LP reward is really 68%? or just frontend bug?

dΞrkfingah | SBCrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 04:01:22 EST

Refresh, I'm getting 63% "APY" (49% APR)

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:59:29 EST

Gm, depends on the weekly outflows, time before maturity, current rewards etc. You'll soon be able to simulate it on the dApp directly. Ranges from zero to 180 days of rewards.

kimchirole-iconcurrently curve LP reward is really 68%? or just frontend bug?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:59:02 EST

Gm, not a bug

katarole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:58:48 EST

True usd0 and usual combine

Noérole-iconTreasury:

123。role-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:58:39 EST

I made an announcement to enter 1 million usd0++How much should I burn?

Ramithrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:58:29 EST

:pills:

dvrole-icon@Noé Quick question I'm curious on how the usual team sees USD0++/USD0 "peg". Do they see USD0++ as something that should trade close to parity with USD0 and if so how close. or just anywhere just above floor price ? In the whitepaper USD0++ is presented as an LST and doesn't guarantee a peg indeed. However you can sort of strenghten/weaken the peg through the target outflow rate. If it's set very high then the peg should be fairly strong. Wondering if the team sees USD0++ price more varying between $0.99-$1 or say for example $0.9-$1 under normal circumstances - in the first year -.

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:58:21 EST

It's difficult for me to comment on this, obviously. But my personal opinion is that USD0++'s fair value should be closer to 1 than to its Floor, because it yields more than the "risk-free rate" of its Floor increasing over time. This is only a personal opinion since you asked for one - but not an indicator of the team's opinion, desire or objective. Some food for thoughts: /status/1878046323586314702">https://x.com/jalah_/status/1878046323586314702

How to price USD0\+\+ ?

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kimchirole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:57:09 EST

currently curve LP reward is really 68%? or just frontend bug?

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xxxxrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:56:55 EST

Is the burning mechanism to deduct the 180-day reward or the accumulated reward?

e0xrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:55:31 EST

up

Quboidrole-iconThank you and is there a way to see it on the smart contract meaning can I verify that the collateral is actually there?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:54:17 EST

Treasury:

불장바라기role-iconI saw the formula in the whitepaper. It says the amount you should pay in usual is related to this one. 1. amount of Usuaul you get currently for USD0++ 2. current net outflow / ideal net outflow Are you going to use this formula same? I mean the maximum usual penalty is 180days * current usual/usd0++ minting rate @Noé

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:53:56 EST

Yes, the formula that will be used is the same as the one described in the whitepaper.

shenmiren5970role-iconWill the penalty be different if I have 10,000 USD0++ in my wallet and I choose to redeem 1,000 USD0++ or if I only have 1,000 USD0++ in my wallet and I choose to redeem 1,000 USD0++?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:53:32 EST

As far as my understanding goes, it shouldn't be. There is no paramater, afaik, about "the percentage of your holdings you want to redeem".

Quboidrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:53:17 EST

Thank you and is there a way to see it on the smart contract meaning can I verify that the collateral is actually there?

Quboidrole-iconIs the collateral of USD0 automatically directed to USCY when someone mints USD0 or is it done manually?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:52:46 EST

It's automatic sir

불장바라기role-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:52:16 EST

But to know the accumulated rewards you should look at historical balance

dvrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:50:39 EST

@Noé Quick question I'm curious on how the usual team sees USD0++/USD0 "peg". Do they see USD0++ as something that should trade close to parity with USD0 and if so how close. or just anywhere just above floor price ? In the whitepaper USD0++ is presented as an LST and doesn't guarantee a peg indeed. However you can sort of strenghten/weaken the peg through the target outflow rate. If it's set very high then the peg should be fairly strong. Wondering if the team sees USD0++ price more varying between $0.99-$1 or say for example $0.9-$1 under normal circumstances - in the first year -.

Noérole-iconIf you have strictly the same amount of USD0++ in your wallet that you want to Early Redeem, at exactly the same time (same outflows/time before maturity etc.), the simulation should be the same.

불장바라기role-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:49:31 EST

I saw the formula in the whitepaper. It says the amount you should pay in usual is related to this one. 1. amount of Usuaul you get currently for USD0++ 2. current net outflow / ideal net outflow Are you going to use this formula same? I mean the maximum usual penalty is 180days * current usual/usd0++ minting rate @Noé

KBG89role-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:48:29 EST

Wait is there a 1:1 redeem happening?

Noérole-iconIf you have strictly the same amount of USD0++ in your wallet that you want to Early Redeem, at exactly the same time (same outflows/time before maturity etc.), the simulation should be the same.

shenmiren5970role-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:47:21 EST

Will the penalty be different if I have 10,000 USD0++ in my wallet and I choose to redeem 1,000 USD0++ or if I only have 1,000 USD0++ in my wallet and I choose to redeem 1,000 USD0++?

Quboidrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:46:30 EST

Is the collateral of USD0 automatically directed to USCY when someone mints USD0 or is it done manually?

大屌萌妹李达康role-iconso for different wallet ,the usual burn rate is same?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:40:27 EST

If you have strictly the same amount of USD0++ in your wallet that you want to Early Redeem, at exactly the same time (same outflows/time before maturity etc.), the simulation should be the same.

KBG89role-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:40:00 EST

I'm Smucklers is the issue I really don't mind another brand of jelly. Lmk fam

Noérole-iconNothing is taking long. We've said early this week, could be today or not.

$tashingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:39:55 EST

What are you waiting for?

Noérole-iconWe don't need your historical balance to calculate anything

大屌萌妹李达康role-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:39:38 EST

so for different wallet ,the usual burn rate is same?

ponchomazrole-iconwen eth 4000?

SwissQuantrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:38:57 EST

Today

大屌萌妹李达康role-iconbut if i transfer usd0++ to other wallet ,How to dete?rmine my burn factor and what if I buy from secondary market for usd0++

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:38:49 EST

We don't need your historical balance to calculate anything

$tashingrole-iconWill double check?? What's taking so long

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:38:22 EST

Nothing is taking long. We've said early this week, could be today or not.

Noérole-iconYes, depends on wallet-specific stuff

大屌萌妹李达康role-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:38:03 EST

but if i transfer usd0++ to other wallet ,How to dete?rmine my burn factor and what if I buy from secondary market for usd0++

Noérole-iconWe've said early this week - could be today or not, will double check

$tashingrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:38:00 EST

Will double check?? What's taking so long

ponchomazrole-iconwen eth 4000?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:37:49 EST

# 🧐ㆍspeculation

ponchomazrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:37:43 EST

wen eth 4000?

shenmiren5970role-iconWill the details of early release of pledge be released today?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:37:22 EST

Early this week, could be today or not, will double check

shenmiren5970role-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:36:34 EST

Will the details of early release of pledge be released today?

Blo Fincrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:36:20 EST

👍

Blo Fincrole-iconYou mean different penalty for different people at the same time? Depends on the rewards accumulated by a wallet?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:35:32 EST

Yes, depends on wallet-specific stuff

大屌萌妹李达康role-iconSIR, when will usual burn for USD0++ open?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:35:22 EST

Early this week

Noérole-iconSunday/Monday yes, something like that

大屌萌妹李达康role-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:35:14 EST

SIR, when will usual burn for USD0++ open?

kimchirole-iconI thought it was going to be announced on Monday, but could it be delayed past Monday?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:35:10 EST

We've said early this week - could be today or not, will double check

shenmiren5970role-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:35:10 EST

Will the details of early release of pledge be released today?

Noérole-iconIt changes dynamically, mostly depending on outflows, time before maturity and current rewards

Blo Fincrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:35:04 EST

You mean different penalty for different people at the same time? Depends on the rewards accumulated by a wallet?

Noérole-iconThis week

kimchirole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:34:31 EST

I thought it was going to be announced on Monday, but could it be delayed past Monday?

Noérole-iconThis week

oldjonexxrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:34:29 EST

not today?

epvj12221role-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:34:24 EST

need a quick action

Davinorrole-icon@Noé revenue switch rewards: Weekly distribution will be on Sunday for USD0 rewards?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:33:44 EST

Sunday/Monday yes, something like that

Blo Fincrole-icon@Noé will the usual token penalty remain same for whole week or will it change dynamically within the same week?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:33:26 EST

It changes dynamically, mostly depending on outflows, time before maturity and current rewards

Davinorrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:33:04 EST

@Noé revenue switch rewards: Weekly distribution will be on Sunday for USD0 rewards?

kimchirole-iconwhen 1:1 redeem plan?

Blo Fincrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:32:50 EST

@Noé will the usual token penalty remain same for whole week or will it change dynamically within the same week?

kimchirole-iconwhen 1:1 redeem plan?

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:32:41 EST

This week

kimchirole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:31:52 EST

when 1:1 redeem plan?

Vincentporotrole-iconIs there an issue with the rewards on the morpho pools? @Noé

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:31:21 EST

I'm checking

Vincentporotrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:31:14 EST

Is there an issue with the rewards on the morpho pools? @Noé

Noérole-iconHi, could you guys please redirect price talks to # 🧐ㆍspeculation - let's keep this channel open for discussions about the protocol itself

Jayjay80role-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:31:04 EST

Okok!

Jakrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:31:03 EST

I still believe in this proj. Dont mind those people who thinks short term.

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:30:49 EST

Hi, could you guys please redirect price talks to # 🧐ㆍspeculation - let's keep this channel open for discussions about the protocol itself

Jayjay80role-iconThey should put back pre-market conditions no more 40k, no shorts/llong….healthy business

fredchan17999role-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:30:45 EST

They can't bro, they have no rights to manipulate the market, just left the market as it is. Time in the market is always better in the market on time.

Jakrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:30:00 EST

Everyone is panicking why? 😂

Jayjay80role-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:29:51 EST

They should put back pre-market conditions no more 40k, no shorts/llong….healthy business

fredchan17999role-iconYep, I got the situation, but it’s not just about understanding — it’s about believing in the project’s long-term growth. Even BTC, SOL got fuds, XRP got sued, yet they pushed through. As long as the team stays active and works hard, we can believe in a bright future. 😄

AlperenPacacioglurole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:29:00 EST

Thanks man you understand it. This chat is getting our of control. Only fud.

SwEePerrole-iconThis is not a matter of people not understanding, you should look at the news, many crypto experts are criticizing USUAL's recent policy

fredchan17999role-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:28:13 EST

Yep, I got the situation, but it’s not just about understanding — it’s about believing in the project’s long-term growth. Even BTC, SOL got fuds, XRP got sued, yet they pushed through. As long as the team stays active and works hard, we can believe in a bright future. 😄

AlperenPacacioglurole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:27:58 EST

Please stop the fud. Man you are all crying

nonamerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:23:38 EST

What is happening ser ?

Malicccrole-iconUsual on the mission to hit 0.01 🚀

Noérole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:22:54 EST

# 🧐ㆍspeculation sir

Malicccrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:22:42 EST

Usual on the mission to hit 0.01 🚀

fredchan17999role-iconMany ppl got panic about what they don't understand and have trust but still put their money in. Isn't it funny? 😂 you should pay your attention to your money sir

SwEePerrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:18:40 EST

This is not a matter of people not understanding, you should look at the news, many crypto experts are criticizing USUAL's recent policy

SwEePerrole-iconAll this time you have been laughing at people who have lost, I have always paid attention to you

fredchan17999role-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:14:13 EST

Many ppl got panic about what they don't understand and have trust but still put their money in. Isn't it funny? 😂 you should pay your attention to your money sir

Vilaxrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:13:02 EST

When we get drop?

fredchan17999role-iconah okey, I'm so chill rn but if that thought makes you happy, just keep it 😂

SwEePerrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:12:52 EST

All this time you have been laughing at people who have lost, I have always paid attention to you

SwEePerrole-iconyou laugh but inside you are panicking😂

fredchan17999role-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:12:04 EST

ah okey, I'm so chill rn but if that thought makes you happy, just keep it 😂

fredchan17999role-iconI'm not in panic LOL 😂 I just tell the fact of crypto volatility market, not only about USUAL. I'm still here growing with the project bro

SwEePerrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:11:40 EST

you laugh but inside you are panicking😂

SwEePerrole-iconYou've been the team's dog all this time, why are you panicking now?

fredchan17999role-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:10:59 EST

I'm not in panic LOL 😂 I just tell the fact of crypto volatility market, not only about USUAL. I'm still here growing with the project bro

fredchan17999role-iconUSUAL team doesn't have any action on the market, the market is what it should be: volatility

SwissQuantrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:10:17 EST

You mean that you need to show that you have 100k$ or that the minimum to redeem is 100k$?

nickyyyy7228role-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:10:00 EST

lets say i staked 1000usualx before epoch start, if I staked extra 100 usual into usualx now(since the epoch has alrady began 8 hours), will I get same usd0 revenue distribution as 1000 usualx, or more than 1000 usualx? @Noé

fredchan17999role-iconUSUAL team doesn't have any action on the market, the market is what it should be: volatility

SwEePerrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:08:57 EST

You've been the team's dog all this time, why are you panicking now?

GHprocurerole-iconPlease what's the usual team doing to this market? The lose is getting more than usual...

fredchan17999role-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:07:12 EST

USUAL team doesn't have any action on the market, the market is what it should be: volatility

SwissQuantrole-iconI think you can only redeem USYC with USD0. But you need to KYC / KYB with Hashnote. Anyone went through the process?

fabwa.role-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:06:02 EST

can only be done with 100k+ and it has a fee iirc

GHprocurerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:04:35 EST

Please what's the usual team doing to this market? The lose is getting more than usual...

The Faceless Shepherdrole-iconCan USD0 be redeemed 1:1 with USDC?

SwissQuantrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 03:04:21 EST

I think you can only redeem USYC with USD0. But you need to KYC / KYB with Hashnote. Anyone went through the process?

tristanrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:59:30 EST

ok thanks !

tristanrole-iconHello, I have a question, the projected rewards of the fees switch displayed here will be distributed every week or month? thanks

Zakrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:59:01 EST

the amount that shows is the total you'll get every month you will receive a part of this amount each week

tristanrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:58:19 EST

Hello, I have a question, the projected rewards of the fees switch displayed here will be distributed every week or month? thanks

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The Faceless Shepherdrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:57:41 EST

Can USD0 be redeemed 1:1 with USDC?

Gabeerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:57:23 EST

@Blob | I will never DM you first user ID 1327675295230328965 is a scammer 🙂

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David Brole-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:53:51 EST

It's been 40 hours. Why not fix the lp pool reward on morpho? Please fix it quickly.

Jake Teerole-iconTotally agree with this, but like I said, it will probably cause a domino effect, as majority of people holding USD0++ are not acknowledged about the fact that it's not a stablecoin. So let's say, they allow people to redeem back 1:1, TVL goes from 1.8bil -> 800millions, others in the protocal, even though does not want to redeem initially, will immediately consider redemption as well and that will drain the TVL

kelnelrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:53:14 EST

well yes, but that TVL was not destined to be placed in a .87 4y bond in the first place. The TVL wants out because the current product is not the product they thought they were buying (even if it was in the docs). So that high TVL number is illegitimate anyways and shouldnt be as high as it is at the moment. It should be much lower. It should be at the number that buying a 4y bond would have attracted in the first place. If that number is 200M istead of 1.3B then it should be at 200M and its legitimate that the rest of the TVL wants out.

fabwa.role-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:52:26 EST

You really think 100m+ funds would come down here and be vocal about their legal actions?

fabwa.role-iconMain concern for people probably now should be that this project will be stuck in legal battles for a long time leaving token holders in limbo. With this sort of TVL you always have institutionals that don't mess around when it comes to defending their rights so they won't leave a stone unturned. Good luck everyone

Jake Teerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:51:18 EST

Think the protocol will still function as normal, USUAL holders will get the fee and revenue share, and so far none of the investors are vocal about sueing USUAL until we see any

cliff9077role-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:48:07 EST

Instead of they buying 4 year bond, they just have to buy a bond etf ranging from short-mid-long, make that etf as rwa 🤣🤣 issue a stable coin

Jake Teerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:47:36 EST

Totally agree with this, but like I said, it will probably cause a domino effect, as majority of people holding USD0++ are not acknowledged about the fact that it's not a stablecoin. So let's say, they allow people to redeem back 1:1, TVL goes from 1.8bil -> 800millions, others in the protocal, even though does not want to redeem initially, will immediately consider redemption as well and that will drain the TVL

fabwa.role-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:47:06 EST

Main concern for people probably now should be that this project will be stuck in legal battles for a long time leaving token holders in limbo. With this sort of TVL you always have institutionals that don't mess around when it comes to defending their rights so they won't leave a stone unturned. Good luck everyone

glennbechrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:45:04 EST

I missed the memmo, People are pissed becuase they traded USD0 -> USD0++ 1:1 and now the value is 0.87 (Floor) ? Sorry for askin, but the conversaton is moving so fast here...

LukeOnChainrole-iconYeah. They basically took the 4 year revenue in advance from us degens. I had no problem if usd0++ were pegged to 0.87 from the beginning. Revenue goes to usual treasury and everyone can always redeem for 0.87. I had long term plans to be a part of usual but I lost the trust.

Jake Teerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:44:50 EST

Same for me, but considering 2 options, I think they do care about the long term of the protocol, (and also price of USUAL). otherwise if they keep it that way, protocol will die if price of USUAL drops to low to justify staking USD0. Not sure what to take of it, Im hurt a lot from my long above (before they announced a series A 10m investment from a lot of prominent foes in the space)

LukeOnChainrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:44:01 EST

I don't know. I sold my usual to cover the loss of my Pendle PT bag. Selling usual is currently the best way to cover the losses

Jake Teerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:41:53 EST

Because it will cause bank run and if they keep it that way, USUAL will continue to be dumped onto market

Jake Teerole-iconJust my 2 cents from a thread posted above: 1. They did that initially to attract TVL, even though they're not specifically imply it's always 1:1 (they also had disclaimer), but since it has "USD" in the name, most degens and people imply it's a stablecoin that has to be pegged, but it's a bond 2. They probably acknowledge the down turn of the price of USUAL due to farmers, so they changed suddenly to trap them, so they either have to stay longer with protocal (4-years for maturity), or pay penalty in USUAL to exit -> basically pay back the farming tokens

LukeOnChainrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:40:57 EST

Yeah. They basically took the 4 year revenue in advance from us degens. I had no problem if usd0++ were pegged to 0.87 from the beginning. Revenue goes to usual treasury and everyone can always redeem for 0.87. I had long term plans to be a part of usual but I lost the trust.

Jayjay80role-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:35:07 EST

Seems usual team is gone ! 😦

kelnelrole-iconyou are correct that 2nd option much better for them, but Im not sure very legal. I am no lawyer and I know some in the team like to make fun of this ("smort lawyer"), but I will take my chances. If there is no exit door proposed for those trapped (and buying 6 month worth of farm is not a legitimate exit door), I will be joining the class action that is being considered at the moment. "Smort" or not

Jake Teerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:34:28 EST

Ngl a bunch of stuff is illegal in crypto, or manipulated, even in traditional tech industry. Tbf, you can look at this way, if they cause a bankrun, there's chance you will lose your money 100% (similar to a traditional bank run). And that's even worse. So doing this way, assuming the protocal does not blow up or whatsoever, you can get the mnoney back in 4-6 months

kelnelrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:31:57 EST

I mean it's 1.3 Billion dollars locked in USD0++. People not gonna just stand there and do nothing.

Jake Teerole-iconThat depends on how you would look at it in the long term, 100% this will hurt the trust of part of the community. So among 2 options: 1. Announce changes -> causes bankrun, people withdrawing all the USD++ and exit the system -> causing more panic, even if trust is still there, they already lose a bunch of TVL 2. They change immediately, sacrifice some trust, but expect to keep people staking their USD0 so they can generate revenues using those TVL -> reward back to USUAL stakers -> over time, hopefully system more stable and new comers will come So it's weighing like 7/3 or 6/4, both have risks but 2nd option is best for them imo

kelnelrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:30:50 EST

you are correct that 2nd option much better for them, but Im not sure very legal. I am no lawyer and I know some in the team like to make fun of this ("smort lawyer"), but I will take my chances. If there is no exit door proposed for those trapped (and buying 6 month worth of farm is not a legitimate exit door), I will be joining the class action that is being considered at the moment. "Smort" or not

youdirole-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:30:25 EST

Hedge your position guys. More dumping coming !!!!!!

0x1tuan.ethrole-iconHas anyone received the USD0 reward yet?

escorole-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:27:27 EST

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Jake Teerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:26:58 EST

That depends on how you would look at it in the long term, 100% this will hurt the trust of part of the community. So among 2 options: 1. Announce changes -> causes bankrun, people withdrawing all the USD++ and exit the system -> causing more panic, even if trust is still there, they already lose a bunch of TVL 2. They change immediately, sacrifice some trust, but expect to keep people staking their USD0 so they can generate revenues using those TVL -> reward back to USUAL stakers -> over time, hopefully system more stable and new comers will come So it's weighing like 7/3 or 6/4, both have risks but 2nd option is best for them imo

0x1tuan.ethrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:26:24 EST

Has anyone received the USD0 reward yet?

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cliff9077role-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:26:20 EST

Should like fed tells everybody before whether they will publish at specific day about ratio change🤣 team afraid others front run, so team front run us

Jake Teerole-iconJust my 2 cents from a thread posted above: 1. They did that initially to attract TVL, even though they're not specifically imply it's always 1:1 (they also had disclaimer), but since it has "USD" in the name, most degens and people imply it's a stablecoin that has to be pegged, but it's a bond 2. They probably acknowledge the down turn of the price of USUAL due to farmers, so they changed suddenly to trap them, so they either have to stay longer with protocal (4-years for maturity), or pay penalty in USUAL to exit -> basically pay back the farming tokens

escorole-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:25:10 EST

There’s also early redemption 1:1. Waiting 4 years is not necessary. The underlying bonds are max 4 months to maturity

LukeOnChainrole-iconWho can answer: why was USD0++ sold at $1 then? I havnt seen an anser to that. why was it sold at $1 for month, but also a few days before it would be changed to a $0.87 product? And also, it did have a peg. Even if they say it wasnt supposed to be pegged, in the facts it was pegged to 1. Then suddenly changed It should have just been sold at it's fair value, and people who'd wanted to buy a bond at 4% could have bought it at fair value and no problem.

Jake Teerole-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:22:33 EST

Just my 2 cents from a thread posted above: 1. They did that initially to attract TVL, even though they're not specifically imply it's always 1:1 (they also had disclaimer), but since it has "USD" in the name, most degens and people imply it's a stablecoin that has to be pegged, but it's a bond 2. They probably acknowledge the down turn of the price of USUAL due to farmers, so they changed suddenly to trap them, so they either have to stay longer with protocal (4-years for maturity), or pay penalty in USUAL to exit -> basically pay back the farming tokens

LukeOnChainrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:17:58 EST

Who can answer: why was USD0++ sold at $1 then? I havnt seen an anser to that. why was it sold at $1 for month, but also a few days before it would be changed to a $0.87 product? And also, it did have a peg. Even if they say it wasnt supposed to be pegged, in the facts it was pegged to 1. Then suddenly changed It should have just been sold at it's fair value, and people who'd wanted to buy a bond at 4% could have bought it at fair value and no problem.

seraphimrole-iconYou will be smart to sell Usual. Going to zero 🤣

Zugorrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:16:37 EST

Should I unstake n sell now? WTH

043815role-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:10:04 EST

#ena current price is the price that should be in line with #usual

rostiklapbdorole-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:08:02 EST

Hey, i had 755 pending rew yestertday, now have 722.hold YT USDO++, how is it possible?

Derealrole-iconWhole market is red. Idk why everyone is crying usual only. Have some positivity guys! Cheer for your bags not jeer. Negativity will only drive new players away. Have faith we will recover!

043815role-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:06:39 EST

Always hope, but we all is colonies ready to be harvested

Louis987role-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:02:48 EST

Most of the coins have no use.

Louis987role-iconEasy money does not exist, once again we have been shown this.

seraphimrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:02:30 EST

Going to zero. AMF complains will be starting to be submitted this week

xtreme11role-iconWhole market is dumping

043815role-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:00:35 EST

See, if other coin is try to recovery, usual always stuck on lower price hihihihi never going to recovery the price like other coin

Nisanrole-iconRead the doc before u decided to buy something, be smart people

seraphimrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 02:00:24 EST

You will be smart to sell Usual. Going to zero 🤣

老根韭菜role-iconWho can answer: why was USD0++ sold at $1 then? I havnt seen an anser to that. why was it sold at $1 for month, but also a few days before it would be changed to a $0.87 product? And also, it did have a peg. Even if they say it wasnt supposed to be pegged, in the facts it was pegged to 1. Then suddenly changed It should have just been sold at it's fair value, and people who'd wanted to buy a bond at 4% could have bought it at fair value and no problem.

seraphimrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 01:58:49 EST

Because the team wants 13% for them. Misleading…but Usual now will go to zero and USD0++ will get the peg again

AlperenPacacioglurole-icon

01/13/2025 at 01:51:50 EST

Exactly

Derealrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 01:49:48 EST

Whole market is red. Idk why everyone is crying usual only. Have some positivity guys! Cheer for your bags not jeer. Negativity will only drive new players away. Have faith we will recover!

AlperenPacacioglurole-iconUsual will reach billions anyway. Instead of longing buy the token itself and stake it.

Kazrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 01:48:15 EST

lmaoo

AlperenPacacioglurole-icon

01/13/2025 at 01:47:58 EST

0.4 is the max dip price. So buy the dips!

01:46:56

Usual will reach billions anyway. Instead of longing buy the token itself and stake it.

xtreme11role-iconWhole market is dumping

Kazrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 01:46:34 EST

but usual’s move is very unusual

AlperenPacacioglurole-icon

01/13/2025 at 01:45:53 EST

I will definitely buy more down

043815role-iconHere we gooo, goo down 🤣

xtreme11role-icon

01/13/2025 at 01:44:34 EST

Whole market is dumping

JACHrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 01:44:26 EST

A few hours ago I entered with a long position. After a while I achieved +20%, but I thought It would continue raising and decided to hold, I did not place any SL and now I am at -40%. I hope it doesn't go below $0.55.

Louis987role-icon

01/13/2025 at 01:43:29 EST

Easy money does not exist, once again we have been shown this.

Kazrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 01:43:12 EST

no recovery for the coin? it’s been 50% down

jonte82role-icon

01/13/2025 at 01:42:34 EST

Does anyone know if the team is still performing liquidations on Morpho? I'm still stuck in a position in pt-26jun2025 and bleeding interest 😦

alishahabrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 01:39:09 EST

when the early redemption will be livev

David Brole-iconIt's been 36 hours. Why not fix the lp pool reward on morpho? Please fix it quickly.

zorole-icon

01/13/2025 at 01:36:18 EST

wen fix?

043815role-icon

01/13/2025 at 01:29:55 EST

Here we gooo, goo down 🤣

Nisanrole-iconRead the doc before u decided to buy something, be smart people

ariosfajar

01/13/2025 at 01:28:02 EST

rEaD tHe dOC bEfORe u DeCiDeD BuY sOmeThiNg

ariosfajarNoMieS bE LiKe, USD0++ is liquid stake USD0. then team change reedem 😆 how hould team change liquid stake. they understand what is liquid stake?

Nisanrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 01:27:35 EST

Read the doc before u decided to buy something, be smart people

bongoking1853role-icon

01/13/2025 at 01:27:34 EST

Will there be a rebound or we abandon ship

01:26:30

Any proce prediction for usual

Nisanrole-iconNormies be like

ariosfajar

01/13/2025 at 01:26:19 EST

NoMieS bE LiKe, USD0++ is liquid stake USD0. then team change reedem 😆 how hould team change liquid stake. they understand what is liquid stake?

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ariosfajarim rekt from this project, team dispointed community F

Nisanrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 01:22:48 EST

Normies be like

ariosfajar

01/13/2025 at 01:21:13 EST

im rekt from this project, team dispointed community F

JACHrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 01:06:44 EST

Maybe tomorrow u will find one better

老根韭菜role-iconWho can answer: why was USD0++ sold at $1 then? I havnt seen an anser to that. why was it sold at $1 for month, but also a few days before it would be changed to a $0.87 product? And also, it did have a peg. Even if they say it wasnt supposed to be pegged, in the facts it was pegged to 1. Then suddenly changed It should have just been sold at it's fair value, and people who'd wanted to buy a bond at 4% could have bought it at fair value and no problem.

Camelrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 00:56:23 EST

https://x.com/pscltllrd/status/1878200678729883877 - this is what happened. If you were degen'ing, it is unfortunate and you have my sympathies. GG and thanks for playing

After spending the day in the discord or Usual, and talk to hard core $USUAL holder, I have another understanding of the chain of events\. 1\. It started with the performance of the USUAL token\. The token was going south, losing 30\-50% since ATH, and token holders were not happy

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老根韭菜role-icon

01/13/2025 at 00:47:08 EST

Who can answer: why was USD0++ sold at $1 then? I havnt seen an anser to that. why was it sold at $1 for month, but also a few days before it would be changed to a $0.87 product? And also, it did have a peg. Even if they say it wasnt supposed to be pegged, in the facts it was pegged to 1. Then suddenly changed It should have just been sold at it's fair value, and people who'd wanted to buy a bond at 4% could have bought it at fair value and no problem.

TommyWrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 00:33:27 EST

https://x.com/BrutalTrade/status/1878412636317966676

\#Usual & \#USD0 : Meanwhile… the USUAL team converted 20,711,521 USD0\+\+ into 20,711,521 USDO at a 1:1 rate, and they’ll always be able to do so thanks to the unwrapPegMaintainer\(\) function\. 👏 Well played 👏 ▶️ One of their TX : https://t.co/F3EBaLcF93 ▶️ Function called :

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David Brole-icon

01/13/2025 at 00:30:58 EST

It's been 36 hours. Why not fix the lp pool reward on morpho? Please fix it quickly.

TommyWrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 00:21:41 EST

should i stop loss? i bought USD0++ at 1$

Zugorrole-iconThen I made a mistake again 😭

fredchan17999role-icon

01/13/2025 at 00:14:40 EST

Broooo 🤣

kelnelrole-iconIn my opinion its not "a good mechanism to protect the project", it was "a trick to attract liquidity that will serve to bootstrap the project and pay for it's runway". Liquidity that would never have been there in the first place if they'd knew it would happen like that. Now project is happy because it has all this ginormous TVL producing return for it, but a big part of this TVL doesnt want to be in this and feels trapped. I totally understand (and feel myself) the anger surrounding all of this.

Zugorrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 00:12:25 EST

Then I made a mistake again 😭

Profehrole-icon

01/13/2025 at 00:05:28 EST

does PT has participation on revenue switch?

kelnelrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 23:59:54 EST

In my opinion its not "a good mechanism to protect the project", it was "a trick to attract liquidity that will serve to bootstrap the project and pay for it's runway". Liquidity that would never have been there in the first place if they'd knew it would happen like that. Now project is happy because it has all this ginormous TVL producing return for it, but a big part of this TVL doesnt want to be in this and feels trapped. I totally understand (and feel myself) the anger surrounding all of this.

fredchan17999role-icon

01/12/2025 at 23:54:18 EST

I'm not the team to have smt called "proper answer" for you. But in my opinion, it's fair and reasonable. USD0++ can be sold between 0.87$ and 1$ (up to the market) and increase overtime until maturity date. Eventually, people actually won't lost anything but receive more and more profit from that. As I said, it's just a good mechanism to protect the project from ppl who wants to leverage it to make easy money in short-term. I totally agree with that. Btw, how it calculated was already described in the doc: https://docs.usual.money/usual-products/usd0-liquid-staking-token/usd0++-floor-price#mechanics-and-implementation

nubitolrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 23:54:02 EST

is there official video for staking usual to get usualX ?