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kelnelrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 23:59:54 EST

In my opinion its not "a good mechanism to protect the project", it's was "a trick to attract liquidity that will serve to bootstrap the project and pay for it's runway". Liquidity that would never have been there in the first place if they'd knew it would happen like that. Now project is happy because it has all this ginormous TVL producing return for it, but a big part of this TVL doesnt want to be in this and feels trapped. I totally understand (and feel myself) the anger surrounding all of this.

kelnelrole-iconIt should have just been sold at it's fair value, and people who'd wanted to buy a bond at 4% could have bought it at fair value and no problem.

fredchan17999role-icon

01/12/2025 at 23:54:18 EST

I'm not the team to have smt called "proper answer" for you. But in my opinion, it's fair and reasonable. USD0++ can be sold between 0.87$ and 1$ (up to the market) and increase overtime until maturity date. Eventually, people actually won't lost anything but receive more and more profit from that. As I said, it's just a good mechanism to protect the project from ppl who wants to leverage it to make easy money in short-term. I totally agree with that. Btw, how it calculated was already described in the doc: https://docs.usual.money/usual-products/usd0-liquid-staking-token/usd0++-floor-price#mechanics-and-implementation

nubitolrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 23:54:02 EST

is there official video for staking usual to get usualX ?

BRNDNrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 23:48:45 EST

Down bad

kelnelrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 23:37:27 EST

It should have just been sold at it's fair value, and people who'd wanted to buy a bond at 4% could have bought it at fair value and no problem.

23:35:23

And also, it did have a peg. Even if they say it wasnt supposed to be pegged, in the facts it was pegged to 1. Then suddenly changed

fredchan17999role-iconUSD0++ is not stable coin so it never have “peg”. This is mentioned in the doc from day 1. Ppl just misunderstood it. Basically it’s 4 years locked bond so if you hold it for 4 years, the rate will definitely back to 1:1 in primary market. For secondary market the rate can be different and its not up to the team. You also can have early redemption but must pay penalties thay will be distributed back to USUALX holders In short, this mechanism protects the project and encourages long term investors/holders

kelnelrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 23:34:14 EST

why was USD0++ sold at $1 then? I havnt seen an anser to that. why was it sold at $1 for month, but also a few days before it would be changed to a $0.87 product?

VuongNTrole-iconwhy USD0++ depeg so hard ?

fredchan17999role-icon

01/12/2025 at 23:30:31 EST

USD0++ is not stable coin so it never have “peg”. This is mentioned in the doc from day 1. Ppl just misunderstood it. Basically it’s 4 years locked bond so if you hold it for 4 years, the rate will definitely back to 1:1 in primary market. For secondary market the rate can be different and its not up to the team. You also can have early redemption but must pay penalties thay will be distributed back to USUALX holders In short, this mechanism protects the project and encourages long term investors/holders

LN123321role-iconI joined at 3k% APY lol

xtreme11role-icon

01/12/2025 at 23:29:15 EST

so how are you poor? go back to holiday

VuongNTrole-iconwhat's happening guys, just come back from holiday

ngocbeo1121role-icon

01/12/2025 at 23:29:11 EST

consider your usd0++ illiquid and don't exit at a loss. safe play right now is 26 June PT, it is at 0.91 usd0++ so you'll get back your money plus at least 3% more at this rate

ravishedrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 23:27:54 EST

Usd0++ holders shorting this to get a better price for usual because they plan to use it to redeem usd0++ at par

xtreme11role-iconthen you should exit this grp, this is only for rich people. we farm at 280% APY

LN123321role-icon

01/12/2025 at 23:26:00 EST

I joined at 3k% APY lol

LN123321role-icontoo poor for holiday lol

xtreme11role-icon

01/12/2025 at 23:25:29 EST

then you should exit this grp, this is only for rich people. we farm at 280% APY

xtreme11role-icongo back again to holiday 😂

LN123321role-icon

01/12/2025 at 23:16:48 EST

too poor for holiday lol

tommyshelbersrole-iconrevenue switch snapshot done? @Noé

goodboy | best good boyrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 23:11:24 EST

shoud be done

tommyshelbersrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 23:06:38 EST

revenue switch snapshot done? @Noé

ravishedrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 23:04:21 EST

now is a better entry than I expected

keeha OwOrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 23:00:41 EST

lets pump usual

VuongNTrole-iconwhat's happening guys, just come back from holiday

xtreme11role-icon

01/12/2025 at 22:55:52 EST

go back again to holiday 😂

VuongNTrole-iconwhy USD0++ depeg so hard ?

Nanobrorole-icon

01/12/2025 at 22:55:20 EST

Guaranteed floor shifted from 0.995 to 0.87 Need 6 months to exit at 1:1 otherwise depend on secondary market as 0.936

Hurole-icon

01/12/2025 at 22:54:27 EST

When will USUAL redemption USD0++ be enabled?

VuongNTrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 22:46:50 EST

what's happening guys, just come back from holiday

22:45:44

why USD0++ depeg so hard ?

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LN123321role-iconi'm waiting for a good answer lol

alishahabrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 22:34:18 EST

every week

Ecamorole-icon

01/12/2025 at 22:24:45 EST

Man, sucks Im over leveraged on BTC otherwise I'd soak up sooooo much usual at this price right now

Noérole-iconDuring the coming week sir

Blo Fincrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 22:21:29 EST

Will the amount of rewards that we have to give away for early redemption remain same for a whole week? Or does that change dynamically?

大屌萌妹李达康role-iconi provide usd0++ on January 5th, I didn’t even generate any profits, but I lost 7 points of my principal, and the team told me that I deserved it because I didn’t read the white paper.

SatoshiXXXrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 22:20:07 EST

Dude, you are going to generate profit, thats an UI issue. And if you unstake using the new features, you are not losing anything (just the yield u accrue)

fredchan17999role-iconYeah, that's how it called bug... I think you should wait for admins to ask more details on this, about in next ~3-5hours

Massimiliano

01/12/2025 at 22:19:41 EST

a that so obvious "bug" and took this long time to discover, bravo.

fredchan17999role-iconYeah, that's how it called bug... I think you should wait for admins to ask more details on this, about in next ~3-5hours

Usualrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 22:16:45 EST

⚠️ Always be careful

- Always check that someone trying to help you is part of the team (verify his roles). - No team member will DM you or ask for you to send him a DM. - No team member will ask you to click on a link for assistance. - To avoid any scam attempts, always ask for help through # 📩ㆍsupport-contact

MassimilianoThanks! But I never heard before that the Pending Rewards contains the Claimable Rewards. I thought I got the total rewards combines Pending one with Claimable one.

fredchan17999role-icon

01/12/2025 at 22:16:44 EST

Yeah, that's how it called bug... I think you should wait for admins to ask more details on this, about in next ~3-5hours

fredchan17999role-iconThey fixed the UI bug which showed wrong rewards. Check #3 in “minor updates” channel latest announcement

Massimiliano

01/12/2025 at 22:12:24 EST

Thanks! But I never heard before that the Pending Rewards contains the Claimable Rewards. I thought I got the total rewards combines Pending one with Claimable one.

MassimilianoCan someone tell me what is going on with the Pending Rewards? It cuts a lot compared to my last review.

fredchan17999role-icon

01/12/2025 at 22:07:42 EST

They fixed the UI bug which showed wrong rewards. Check #3 in “minor updates” channel latest announcement

Massimiliano

01/12/2025 at 21:59:39 EST

Can someone tell me what is going on with the Pending Rewards? It cuts a lot compared to my last review.

Yt:Anteiku980role-iconThe more coins in circulation the lower the price 😓

nubitolrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 21:57:43 EST

bro, this usual have token unlock, or, just inflate from staking?

Luiz Lucas Correiarole-iconGood question

LN123321role-icon

01/12/2025 at 21:57:03 EST

i'm waiting for a good answer lol

Yt:Anteiku980role-icon

01/12/2025 at 21:56:14 EST

The more coins in circulation the lower the price 😓

Lucky Boyrole-iconHey guys how do you like usuals new price now?

Yt:Anteiku980role-icon

01/12/2025 at 21:55:09 EST

Rip

LN123321role-iconwhen will we recieve the reward from revenue switch ?

Luiz Lucas Correiarole-icon

01/12/2025 at 21:54:33 EST

Good question

Yt:Anteiku980role-icon

01/12/2025 at 21:53:14 EST

Because the currency will be worthless, no matter how much we have, we will go negative.

Lucky Boyrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 21:53:14 EST

Hey guys how do you like usuals new price now?

LN123321role-icon

01/12/2025 at 21:52:46 EST

when will we recieve the reward from revenue switch ?

Yt:Anteiku980role-icon

01/12/2025 at 21:52:06 EST

Even if we leave in stake and have the highest profit but if the price keeps going down we are left with many coins and 0 profit.

Massimiliano

01/12/2025 at 21:49:32 EST

Why is my pending rewards almost disappeared, before I got around 800, now it shows less than 50. It is not distributed to my claimable rewards.

wyn zzzrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 21:47:16 EST

Why my stake usualx not auto compounding? Where the reward?

David Brole-icon

01/12/2025 at 21:45:38 EST

When is the rwward fix for lp? morpho users are not receiving reward.

043815role-iconbitcoin is relatively the same price, why is usual going down? Can anyone explain?

大屌萌妹李达康role-icon

01/12/2025 at 21:43:26 EST

Confidence lost

043815role-icon

01/12/2025 at 21:37:33 EST

bitcoin is relatively the same price, why is usual going down? Can anyone explain?

xtreme11role-icon

01/12/2025 at 21:36:40 EST

Projected Rewards shows is weekly or monthly?

大屌萌妹李达康role-icon

01/12/2025 at 21:27:08 EST

i provide usd0++ on January 5th, I didn’t even generate any profits, but I lost 7 points of my principal, and the team told me that I deserved it because I didn’t read the white paper.

xtreme11role-icon

01/12/2025 at 21:23:20 EST

Weekly snapshot taken?

Coopos Janeszrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 21:17:41 EST

lol

Dean - Founder CipherZero Labsrole-iconUntruth project 😂 USUAL INVESTORS losing money alot of 😏

fredchan17999role-icon

01/12/2025 at 21:08:36 EST

😂 I think you are the one lost your money here, thats why u are so toxic, what u want to prove here?

Dean - Founder CipherZero Labsrole-iconUntruth project 😂 USUAL INVESTORS losing money alot of 😏

billofinerole-icon

01/12/2025 at 20:57:59 EST

I feel like I’ve been groomed and tortured

Dean - Founder CipherZero Labsrole-iconLol 😂 because you already sold all your coin and take profits, then you say that like you’re champion 🤭 f*kers

SatoshiXXXrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 20:51:30 EST

@Dean - Founder CipherZero Labs people laughed like this at btc too because they couldn't comprehend the concept

Dean - Founder CipherZero Labsrole-iconLol 😂 because you already sold all your coin and take profits, then you say that like you’re champion 🤭 f*kers

BingChillingrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 20:33:12 EST

Lol salty much? Thanks for playing.

BingChillingrole-iconRight same thing every coin. Same people buying fartcoin/wif/virtual/hype What the point? There always winner and loser lol.

Dean - Founder CipherZero Labsrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 20:31:54 EST

Lol 😂 because you already sold all your coin and take profits, then you say that like you’re champion 🤭 f*kers

Dean - Founder CipherZero Labsrole-iconMuch people was not in pre-market, don’t compare like that hahaaaa

BingChillingrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 20:30:13 EST

Right same thing every coin. Same people buying fartcoin/wif/virtual/hype What the point? There always winner and loser lol.

BingChillingrole-iconHow pre market was 0.2

Dean - Founder CipherZero Labsrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 20:26:09 EST

Much people was not in pre-market, don’t compare like that hahaaaa

Dean - Founder CipherZero Labsrole-iconUntruth project 😂 USUAL INVESTORS losing money alot of 😏

BingChillingrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 20:25:08 EST

How pre market was 0.2

Dean - Founder CipherZero Labsrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 20:24:22 EST

Untruth project 😂 USUAL INVESTORS losing money alot of 😏

CryptoUnclerole-icon

01/12/2025 at 20:18:40 EST

does the USD0++ in Curve LP can the usual rewards?

Dean - Founder CipherZero Labsrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 20:11:44 EST

Марселкаrole-iconthats may be today?

Dave.racerole-icon

01/12/2025 at 20:09:03 EST

If today=Monday, maybe

RiskyBusinessrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 20:06:15 EST

epoch has debuted! ?

ravishedrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 20:00:02 EST

Give this tweet some love https://x.com/GMhoklyh/status/1878478862788759942

Reasons for Future Growth and Long\-Term Investment Opportunity: $USUAL 1\.Attractive Dividends from $USUALx: At the current price, USUALx offers 80%\+ dividends paid in USD0 and usual tokens, protecting investors from dilution\. Investors benefit in all market scenarios:Price

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footer-iconTwitter • 01/12/2025 11:27:15 EST

Mollerrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 19:57:27 EST

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jeniiixrole-iconwhen will they withdraw usd0++ from veda x bera pool? I've been waiting for 2 days now

Lentlyrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 19:45:44 EST

5 days more

aa2322role-iconGg we cooked

Amar - CWrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 19:42:40 EST

Wdym

aa2322role-icon

01/12/2025 at 19:41:52 EST

Gg we cooked

jeniiixrole-iconwhen will they withdraw usd0++ from veda x bera pool? I've been waiting for 2 days now

Марселкаrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 19:28:31 EST

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jeniiixrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 19:26:32 EST

when will they withdraw usd0++ from veda x bera pool? I've been waiting for 2 days now

Dave.racerole-iconEarly this week

Марселкаrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 19:24:44 EST

thats may be today?

Марселкаrole-iconWhen the early unstaking?

Dave.racerole-icon

01/12/2025 at 19:22:56 EST

Early this week

ZirDelirole-icon

01/12/2025 at 19:19:59 EST

Price going down apy going down what we earn from revenue is also going down, when we will getting up? Really feeling bad all going down

Марселкаrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 19:12:01 EST

When the early unstaking?

Dynamorole-iconwish this last fud wouldnt happen

SwEePerrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 19:06:33 EST

👍

Dynamorole-iconit will take so much time to recover the price. I don't understand how they did this mistake. This is not something that they could change in one day. They should have informed the community couple of times :/ I am heavily invested in USUAL but my hopes are decreasing day by day :/

BingChillingrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 19:04:10 EST

Otc me $30

Dynamorole-icon

01/12/2025 at 19:00:06 EST

it will take so much time to recover the price. I don't understand how they did this mistake. This is not something that they could change in one day. They should have informed the community couple of times :/ I am heavily invested in USUAL but my hopes are decreasing day by day :/

18:59:03

wish this last fud wouldnt happen

Dynamorole-iconwill we receive the revenues after 17 mins?

BingChillingrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 18:58:40 EST

The epoch start. U get stimmy when donal trump talk

kiratsunamirole-iconNext week

Dynamorole-icon

01/12/2025 at 18:57:40 EST

hmm ok

Dynamorole-iconwill we receive the revenues after 17 mins?

kiratsunamirole-icon

01/12/2025 at 18:57:08 EST

Next week

Amar - CWrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 18:50:32 EST

@famousfxck yo bro check dms

Jenniferlynnrole-iconAnyone tired of been single and looking for someone to talk to right here? I am lonely 😩

lil mrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 18:47:54 EST

go buy a dog

Jenniferlynnrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 18:44:20 EST

Anyone tired of been single and looking for someone to talk to right here? I am lonely 😩

Dynamorole-icon

01/12/2025 at 18:44:03 EST

will we receive the revenues after 17 mins?

Vincentporotrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 18:39:22 EST

Could it be that I’m not getting the rewards I should @Noé

savasadar.ethrole-iconIf I give up the 7-day USUAL return accumulated inside, will I be able to withdraw my USDCs at a 1:1 ratio? Did I understand correctly? > 1: 1 Early Unstaking > USD0++ can be unstaked at any time before the early unstaking feature is implemented. Once launched, this feature will let users unstake their USD0 early by burning their accumulated USUAL yield. A portion of the burned USUAL will be shared with USUALx holders.

savasadar.ethrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 18:33:50 EST

@Noé

Noérole-iconDuring the coming week sir

savasadar.ethrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 18:27:21 EST

If I give up the 7-day USUAL return accumulated inside, will I be able to withdraw my USDCs at a 1:1 ratio? Did I understand correctly? > 1: 1 Early Unstaking > USD0++ can be unstaked at any time before the early unstaking feature is implemented. Once launched, this feature will let users unstake their USD0 early by burning their accumulated USUAL yield. A portion of the burned USUAL will be shared with USUALx holders.

jonte82role-icon

01/12/2025 at 18:27:01 EST

I think it's the last meaningful position in any hardcoded vault

jonte82role-iconHey @Noé , if you are in contact with the team, can you help me to get them to liquidate my debt position on the old Morpho PT-26jun2025 vault. The new vault had no liquidity so I can't move and I'm bleeding interest by the hour!

Usualrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 18:25:57 EST

⚠️ Always be careful

- Always check that someone trying to help you is part of the team (verify his roles). - No team member will DM you or ask for you to send him a DM. - No team member will ask you to click on a link for assistance. - To avoid any scam attempts, always ask for help through # 📩ㆍsupport-contact

jonte82role-icon

01/12/2025 at 18:25:57 EST

Hey @Noé , if you are in contact with the team, can you help me to get them to liquidate my debt position on the old Morpho PT-26jun2025 vault. The new vault had no liquidity so I can't move and I'm bleeding interest by the hour!

Mello.ethrole-icon@Noé Hello, why has there been no profit of USD0++ in the past two days? I used to get 200+ every day, now I get 10+

Noérole-icon

01/12/2025 at 18:19:10 EST

There has, could you open a ticket in # 📩ㆍsupport-contact ?

VitRudrole-icon@Noé can you clarify when will be implementation of the early unstaking, I want to give back all Usual rewards and return my USDC?

Noérole-icon

01/12/2025 at 18:18:49 EST

During the coming week sir

Mello.ethrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 18:17:57 EST

@Noé Hello, why has there been no profit of USD0++ in the past two days? I used to get 200+ every day, now I get 10+

VitRudrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 18:16:46 EST

@Noé can you clarify when will be implementation of the early unstaking, I want to give back all Usual rewards and return my USDC?

76ixerrole-icon@Noé can you clarify what will happen with the unhealthy position remaining in the old PT-USD0-March Morpho Vault ?

Noérole-icon

01/12/2025 at 18:16:08 EST

At this stage I don’t have more information on that except that official communications are planned to clarify how each pool is now treated

76ixerrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 18:15:07 EST

@Noé can you clarify what will happen with the unhealthy position remaining in the old PT-USD0-March Morpho Vault ?

savasadar.ethrole-iconI am not a mod so idk

VitRudrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 18:14:23 EST

as you can see team is cleaning and deleting people who are telling the truth, I did not say anything agains the rules, I just mention that they set up people and AI bots to talk about them in a good light and they deleted me from discord channel.

76ixerrole-iconhey, what will happen with the unhealthy positions of the old PT-USD0-March Morpho Vault ?

76ixerrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 18:11:21 EST

someone from USUAL is going to liquidate these positions??

Mello.ethrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 18:09:13 EST

@famousfxck @savasadar.eth Hello, why has there been no profit of USD0++ in the past two days? I used to get 200+ every day, now I get 10+

76ixerrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 18:09:10 EST

hey, what will happen with the unhealthy positions of the old PT-USD0-March Morpho Vault ?

HubristicFarmerrole-iconAre you sure you’re right? I would have assumed rewards were given the LP and which morpho pool you were looping through was irrelevant.

zorole-icon

01/12/2025 at 18:07:54 EST

Yes, that's right. It's clearly missing.

Mello.ethrole-icon@savasadar.eth Hello, why has there been no profit of USD0++ in the past two days? I used to get 200+ every day, now I get 10+

savasadar.ethrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 18:07:53 EST

I am not a mod so idk

Mello.ethrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 18:06:39 EST

@savasadar.eth Hello, why has there been no profit of USD0++ in the past two days? I used to get 200+ every day, now I get 10+

savasadar.ethrole-iconI am using 30+ wallet address on defi. I don't understand what your purpose is?

famousfxckrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 18:05:20 EST

# 📣ㆍannouncements

savasadar.ethrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 18:05:08 EST

Look at my x account. Am I an ai agent? LOL

famousfxckrole-iconNot taking you seriously tbh, your wallet has never interacted with Usual and you say the liquidity on secondary is too low? My guy you have 120$ in your wallet. The liquidity is deep enough lmao

savasadar.ethrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 18:02:53 EST

I am using 30+ wallet address on defi. I don't understand what your purpose is?

famousfxckrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 18:02:25 EST

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145.01KB

savasadar.ethrole-iconYes I read, I tested stake and unstake from UI and It shown always 1:1 then I stake without discount. This is just a trap guys no more words needed. The Usual Stole my prev 6 months revenue.

famousfxckrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:59:57 EST

Not taking you seriously tbh, your wallet has never interacted with Usual and you say the liquidity on secondary is too low? My guy you have 120$ in your wallet. The liquidity is deep enough lmao

savasadar.ethrole-iconYes I read, I tested stake and unstake from UI and It shown always 1:1 then I stake without discount. This is just a trap guys no more words needed. The Usual Stole my prev 6 months revenue.

BingChillingrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:59:06 EST

so what you think why it said locked 4 years ?

BingChillingrole-icondid you read the doc before press buying ?

savasadar.ethrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:57:43 EST

Yes I read, I tested stake and unstake from UI and It shown always 1:1 then I stake without discount. This is just a trap guys no more words needed. The Usual Stole my prev 6 months revenue.

meyouhesherole-iconwhat actually is the incentive that anybody buys USD0++ and not USD0?

BingChillingrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:52:33 EST

usd0 always 1 and usd0++ not always 1 people buy usd0 to provide liquidity in curve you get usual + curve usd0++ also u get usual + guaranteed $1 in 4 years

Rochdirole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:51:31 EST

I staked my useal for usualX, i have now usualX how can i improve my gain more where to stake thoses usualX and what is pendle PT or PY ?

meyouhesherole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:51:18 EST

i think the only driver that people buy usd0++ and it goes close to 1 is a constant high yield of usd0++ over usd0. But i dont know enough about the yield generation metric to understand if that is sustainable or not

17:50:17

what actually is the incentive that anybody buys USD0++ and not USD0?

meyouhesherole-iconunderstood. so based on current Pendle PT APR of 30% it will take me ca 3 months to cover my loss. insofar I can exit then at 0.94 or more if price goes to 0.87 again

BingChillingrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:49:44 EST

if you buy PT folks said u need to held until maturity yes 0.87-0.99 is the range i don't know depend on the price it can goes to 0.99 or people sell back to 0.90

BingChillingrole-icondepend on the market people gonna buy/sell 0.87-0.99 reach $1 probably soon ? probably not

meyouhesherole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:48:41 EST

understood. so based on current Pendle PT APR of 30% it will take me ca 3 months to cover my loss. insofar I can exit then at 0.94 or more if price goes to 0.87 again

savasadar.ethrole-iconGuys I did not lock my money okay? You gave me some choose for lock with discount and I did not get your discount beause I want to get back my money when I want. On what basis are you locking my money for 4 years?

BingChillingrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:48:23 EST

did you read the doc before press buying ?

savasadar.ethrole-iconGuys I did not lock my money okay? You gave me some choose for lock with discount and I did not get your discount beause I want to get back my money when I want. On what basis are you locking my money for 4 years?
meyouhesherole-iconare people buying above 0.87 now because they just buy usd0++ for the yield? I wanna understand the rationale behin usd0++ trading higher than 0.87 as of now and whats the chance it comes close to 1 within the next weeks (and not in 4 years)

BingChillingrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:46:31 EST

depend on the market people gonna buy/sell 0.87-0.99 reach $1 probably soon ? probably not

meyouhesherole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:45:04 EST

are people buying above 0.87 now because they just buy usd0++ for the yield? I wanna understand the rationale behin usd0++ trading higher than 0.87 as of now and whats the chance it comes close to 1 within the next weeks (and not in 4 years)

BingChillingrole-iconbe me asking and calculate the risk of loop and decide not to do it

rektmoldovanrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:43:25 EST

😂

meyouhesherole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:42:31 EST

are usd0++ PT redeemable to USDC at 1:1 ratio or also with a 6% loss as of now

tony_defirole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:41:13 EST

Buying more this fire entry

famousfxckrole-iconIf I check his address I don’t see him even interacting with usual lmao

savasadar.ethrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:36:05 EST

Who are you talking about?

fab1440role-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:34:42 EST

MEV capital swapped my USDC to USD0++ at 1:1 rate while the price is 0.92 at time of swap

rektmoldovanrole-iconA bit of fun from 0xg00gly😂

BingChillingrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:34:05 EST

be me asking and calculate the risk of loop and decide not to do it

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rektmoldovanrole-iconA bit of fun from 0xg00gly😂

famousfxckrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:33:48 EST

😂😂

fab1440role-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:33:38 EST

your source ? the team? no i dont believe it

rektmoldovanrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:32:09 EST

A bit of fun from 0xg00gly😂

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famousfxckrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:32:07 EST

If I check his address I don’t see him even interacting with usual lmao

savasadar.ethrole-iconGuys I did not lock my money okay? You gave me some choose for lock with discount and I did not get your discount beause I want to get back my money when I want. On what basis are you locking my money for 4 years?

fab1440role-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:30:28 EST

see you in 2029

savasadar.ethrole-iconThere is no better rate because there the liquidity is not too much. What is the next could you explain ?

famousfxckrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:30:08 EST

How much USD0++ do you hold?

savasadar.ethrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:29:44 EST

Guys I did not lock my money okay? You gave me some choose for lock with discount and I did not get your discount beause I want to get back my money when I want. On what basis are you locking my money for 4 years?

savasadar.ethrole-iconThere is no better rate because there the liquidity is not too much. What is the next could you explain ?

fab1440role-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:27:29 EST

You need to wait 4 years to redeem it at 1:1

famousfxckrole-icon0.87$ is floorprice. But there are better rates on DEX. Read # 📣ㆍannouncements

savasadar.ethrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:21:55 EST

There is no better rate because there the liquidity is not too much. What is the next could you explain ?

seraphimrole-iconWill trade close to 1 as Usual token burns to the ground 😂

ekosonerole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:18:23 EST

Lmao

seraphimrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:17:59 EST

Will trade close to 1 as Usual token burns to the ground 😂

meyouhesherole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:14:58 EST

i understand that the floor of usd0++ is 0.87 and that in 4 years its redeemable vs USD at a 1:1 ratio. Why is it actually trading at 0.94 now and not at 0.88 or 0.89. I just want to understand which kind of "arbitrage" is behind USD0++ trading higher than 0.87 at this point and if there is any chance this gets back to 1 over the next days or weeks, or if it will just float between 0.9 and 0.99 for the next 4 years until redemption

savasadar.ethrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:14:35 EST

I did not understand. What should I do for unstake 1:1? If I give up the next 6 months of income, will I be able to withdraw it at a 1:1 ratio?

The Southernerrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:14:34 EST

Why people like cheese complicated things, for 10% more you put yourself in very strange and complex financial situation, Morpho Pendle and so on...., I prefer simple and clear, stack it in app.usual.money, go to Binance, wait for the decline buy more, stack more, until mid 2025, take a look

17:11:33

Thank you for all the paper hands, your discount is very appreciated 👍

savasadar.ethrole-iconThe percent is not important. I staked my money for earn yield and I loosed my money. What is happenning? Why I cant unstake my money 1:1?

famousfxckrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:11:21 EST

0.87$ is floorprice. But there are better rates on DEX. Read # 📣ㆍannouncements

Vincentporotrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:10:59 EST

Do Usual rewards start accruing right after I put in USD0++ or LP? @Noé

famousfxckrole-icon15%? Are you sure? Because even on secondary price is 0.93$…?

savasadar.ethrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:09:30 EST

The percent is not important. I staked my money for earn yield and I loosed my money. What is happenning? Why I cant unstake my money 1:1?

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savasadar.ethrole-iconI staked USD0 and get USD0++ previous week. Now I loosed 15 percent of my money! What is this mean? What is happening?

famousfxckrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:06:07 EST

15%? Are you sure? Because even on secondary price is 0.93$…?

savasadar.ethrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 17:05:18 EST

I staked USD0 and get USD0++ previous week. Now I loosed 15 percent of my money! What is this mean? What is happening?

RiskyBusinessrole-iconOK , we need to hold th entire $usualx . And if we add , what's happen ?

Noérole-icon

01/12/2025 at 16:56:59 EST

If you add, it’s a time weighted average iirc

Noérole-iconYes - you should hold your USUALx balance for the whole weekly epoch

RiskyBusinessrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 16:55:42 EST

OK , we need to hold th entire $usualx . And if we add , what's happen ?

Noérole-icon

01/12/2025 at 16:54:08 EST

@nft_d that’s # 🧐ㆍspeculation

RiskyBusinessrole-iconare we punished even with a partial withdrawal? @Noé

Noérole-icon

01/12/2025 at 16:53:55 EST

Yes - you should hold your USUALx balance for the whole weekly epoch

ravishedrole-iconSnapshot is in four hours payment on the 20th, if you withdrawal during that week there is no payment

RiskyBusinessrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 16:53:28 EST

are we punished even with a partial withdrawal? @Noé

zorole-iconThe new pool tvl of morpho is not applied in lp compensation. So the apy is marked as 74%. The rewards of usd0++ apply to the new pool, while the tvl summation of usd0/usd0++ still seems to be in the old pool. The reward of lp should come from tvl of curve + new pool of morpho. However, it seems to be calculated as cruve + old pool at the moment. There is an omission of new pool.

HubristicFarmerrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 16:40:57 EST

Are you sure you’re right? I would have assumed rewards were given the LP and which morpho pool you were looping through was irrelevant.

Gothicowiecrole-iconIf we get 10% usual coins tomorrow (reward for staking usualx) What happen if I convert usual to usualx before one day reward? For example one Day before reward i will put 10000 usualx and tomorrow they give for me for free 1000 tokens?

ravishedrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 16:40:40 EST

Snapshot is in four hours payment on the 20th, if you withdrawal during that week there is no payment

Klintarole-icon10% sounds steep bro , is math really mathing there

suetarole-icon

01/12/2025 at 16:38:00 EST

What 10% are you guys talking about?

Klintarole-icon

01/12/2025 at 16:17:40 EST

10% sounds steep bro , is math really mathing there

Gothicowiecrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 16:13:56 EST

If we get 10% usual coins tomorrow (reward for staking usualx) What happen if I convert usual to usualx before one day reward? For example one Day before reward i will put 10000 usualx and tomorrow they give for me for free 1000 tokens?

DraKryZrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 16:13:02 EST

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Gabeerole-icon

01/12/2025 at 16:06:14 EST

@ptitspapiers go to the french channel by going to # 🌎ㆍlanguage-select and then 🇫🇷 @Gothicowiec do not reply to these fake accounts, everyone is fake here, dobrze

Gothicowiecrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 16:05:37 EST

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famousfxckrole-iconwtf is habituel

Gabeerole-icon

01/12/2025 at 16:05:11 EST

It's a translator that translates the whole page

JaharakaLrole-iconCan i keep staking Usuals while the Switch is on and i will get the rewards the next epoch?

BingChillingrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 15:37:56 EST

Yes it count every week

famousfxckrole-iconwtf is habituel

yecine4686role-icon

01/12/2025 at 15:27:55 EST

usual in french 🤣

JaharakaLrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 15:18:44 EST

Can i keep staking Usuals while the Switch is on and i will get the rewards the next epoch?

famousfxckrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 15:16:02 EST

wtf is habituel

Nemorole-icon@Anu Rahman automatic

Anu Rahmanrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 15:08:36 EST

👍🏻

Nemorole-icon

01/12/2025 at 15:07:27 EST

@Anu Rahman automatic

Anu Rahmanrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 15:07:05 EST

How can the ‘revenue switch’ activate. It will activate automatic or we need to do something?

Fadirole-icon

01/12/2025 at 15:06:47 EST

It is on the site since 7th of Jan!

Fadirole-iconActivating revenue switch in 4 hours from now!

Jayjay80role-icon

01/12/2025 at 15:04:16 EST

Communicated now ?

Fadirole-icon

01/12/2025 at 15:03:55 EST

Activating revenue switch in 4 hours from now!

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Jayjay80role-icon

01/12/2025 at 15:03:14 EST

@Noé a serious proposal : why dont you donate 1million dollar for loas angeles fire or 500k this will be a huge PR effect !!!

glonky01role-icon

01/12/2025 at 14:55:27 EST

ok, thanks for the help. actually there is more usual when I'm simulating withdrawal 🙂 so i'm a little bit less than 55% loss on token value 🤣

Thomasrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 14:52:52 EST

Yeah man.... update your wallet portfolio then try again

ptitspapiersrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 14:50:52 EST

Bug ?

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CrypTom ∞ ⧖role-iconHi guy's, I wondered if with the upcoming fee switch, an automatic recompound of the $USD0 obtained to $USUALx will be made available. I'd rather receive $USUALx immediately every week so it automatically compounds instead of paying fees on Ethereum and having to do it myself + missing one week of rewards on my freshly earned rewards

CrypTom ∞ ⧖role-icon

01/12/2025 at 14:49:55 EST

Seems to be a consensus @Noé :3

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glonky01role-iconhello, I bought Usual and I'm staking it since 2024/12/25. It says that "rewards are distributed on 24 hours cycle" but my rewards still shows 0. What might be the reason?

Anu Rahmanrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 14:40:55 EST

Check with unstake option with your usualx, then you can find your usual value is incresing day by day

glonky01role-iconhello, I bought Usual and I'm staking it since 2024/12/25. It says that "rewards are distributed on 24 hours cycle" but my rewards still shows 0. What might be the reason?

antdel7528role-icon

01/12/2025 at 14:35:45 EST

Check Debank.com. I had the same question but if u look at Debank and Etherscan u will see ur balance has increased in Debank

Leloucheowrole-iconno plans to add usd0 yield to YTs?

Noérole-icon

01/12/2025 at 14:30:06 EST

It's unfortunately no planned as of now

glonky01role-iconhello, I bought Usual and I'm staking it since 2024/12/25. It says that "rewards are distributed on 24 hours cycle" but my rewards still shows 0. What might be the reason?

Noérole-icon

01/12/2025 at 14:29:56 EST

Hi, please check # 🤖ㆍtroubleshooting 😄

glonky01role-icon

01/12/2025 at 14:26:25 EST

hello, I bought Usual and I'm staking it since 2024/12/25. It says that "rewards are distributed on 24 hours cycle" but my rewards still shows 0. What might be the reason?

Leloucheowrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 14:23:54 EST

no plans to add usd0 yield to YTs?

Leloucheowrole-iconAre pendle UsualX YT get usd0 yield?

Noérole-icon

01/12/2025 at 14:23:37 EST

No sir

Leloucheowrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 14:22:51 EST

Are pendle UsualX YT get usd0 yield?

Georgirole-iconwhy don't we allow usd0++ to free float ? It should be able to go below 0.87 in my opinion.

Noérole-icon

01/12/2025 at 14:15:59 EST

Gm, on our docs, you can find a paper explaining the reasoning behind this value: https://docs.usual.money/usual-products/usd0-liquid-staking-token/usd0++-floor-price

Noérole-iconHi sir, it should be directly sent to your wallet

antdel7528role-icon

01/12/2025 at 14:15:49 EST

Excellent

Georgirole-icon

01/12/2025 at 14:14:21 EST

why don't we allow usd0++ to free float ? It should be able to go below 0.87 in my opinion.

famousfxckrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 14:05:37 EST

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Jayjay80role-icon

01/12/2025 at 14:02:32 EST

@Noé if you have big annoucements (partnetship etc) do it asap to kill the fud its only like this that you can make people follows

LMEOWrole-iconUSD0++ will be at $1 much faster than many think. People overlook that there is usual incentives

Cortinarole-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:59:45 EST

💯

antdel7528role-iconOk thank you fine ser. And next week will my USDO rewards will be sent directly to my wallet or do I have to claim them?

Noérole-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:56:56 EST

Hi sir, it should be directly sent to your wallet

Noérole-iconFor the USUALx balance to not go up? Yes. The amount going up is the number of USUAL you can withdraw with the same amount of USUALx, like a vault share!

antdel7528role-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:44:47 EST

Ok thank you fine ser. And next week will my USDO rewards will be sent directly to my wallet or do I have to claim them?

antdel7528role-iconIs that normal?

Noérole-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:42:39 EST

For the USUALx balance to not go up? Yes. The amount going up is the number of USUAL you can withdraw with the same amount of USUALx, like a vault share!

antdel7528role-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:40:21 EST

Is that normal?

antdel7528role-iconHey guys I’m new why don’t I see my UsualX balance going up? I staked over 2 days ago and balance is the same

Noérole-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:40:01 EST

Hi, please check # 🤖ㆍtroubleshooting

JazzyStrole-iconCheck on debank . Com by checking your wallet address

antdel7528role-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:39:14 EST

Thanks

antdel7528role-iconHey guys I’m new why don’t I see my UsualX balance going up? I staked over 2 days ago and balance is the same

JazzyStrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:38:46 EST

Check on debank . Com by checking your wallet address

antdel7528role-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:35:34 EST

Hey guys I’m new why don’t I see my UsualX balance going up? I staked over 2 days ago and balance is the same

zorole-iconThe new pool tvl of morpho is not applied in lp compensation. So the apy is marked as 74%. The rewards of usd0++ apply to the new pool, while the tvl summation of usd0/usd0++ still seems to be in the old pool. The reward of lp should come from tvl of curve + new pool of morpho. However, it seems to be calculated as cruve + old pool at the moment. There is an omission of new pool.

David Brole-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:27:23 EST

OMG

Darkirole-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:24:58 EST

for real is fine 🙂

DVrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:24:31 EST

It can be any price if it's profitable to maintain the arb

BingChillingrole-icon2nd market can be any price

LaIslaBonitarole-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:23:58 EST

but <1$

LaIslaBonitarole-iconusd0++ wont reach 1$ in the upcoming yerar

BingChillingrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:23:22 EST

2nd market can be any price

Darkirole-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:23:21 EST

:1_catsmile_jeanmi:

Gothicowiecrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:23:12 EST

I could withdraw all money from binance and change another market? I have seen post twitter usual old markets atop reward

LaIslaBonitarole-iconusd0++ wont reach 1$ in the upcoming yerar

DVrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:18:43 EST

Up to the usual burn rates since people can arb it. If they ever limit the amount of issuance of usd0++ it can even go above 1$

Noérole-iconThanks, I've forwarded the details to our tech team for them to take a look

zorole-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:16:14 EST

I think this needs to be dealt with quickly. new pool users in morpho are paying only interest without compensation.

LMEOWrole-iconUSD0++ will be at $1 much faster than many think. People overlook that there is usual incentives

LaIslaBonitarole-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:15:44 EST

usd0++ wont reach 1$ in the upcoming yerar

CrypTom ∞ ⧖role-iconHi guy's, I wondered if with the upcoming fee switch, an automatic recompound of the $USD0 obtained to $USUALx will be made available. I'd rather receive $USUALx immediately every week so it automatically compounds instead of paying fees on Ethereum and having to do it myself + missing one week of rewards on my freshly earned rewards

LMEOWrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:15:38 EST

great idea

CrypTom ∞ ⧖role-iconHi guy's, I wondered if with the upcoming fee switch, an automatic recompound of the $USD0 obtained to $USUALx will be made available. I'd rather receive $USUALx immediately every week so it automatically compounds instead of paying fees on Ethereum and having to do it myself + missing one week of rewards on my freshly earned rewards

KubzThe14Throle-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:15:02 EST

excellenet idea, it would also benefit smaller stakers to snowball their rewards and would likely be there for the long run ?

zorole-iconThe new pool tvl of morpho is not applied in lp compensation. So the apy is marked as 74%. The rewards of usd0++ apply to the new pool, while the tvl summation of usd0/usd0++ still seems to be in the old pool. The reward of lp should come from tvl of curve + new pool of morpho. However, it seems to be calculated as cruve + old pool at the moment. There is an omission of new pool.

Noérole-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:14:29 EST

Thanks, I've forwarded the details to our tech team for them to take a look

LMEOWrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:11:23 EST

USD0++ will be at $1 much faster than many think. People overlook that there is usual incentives

Z33role-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:10:53 EST

I don't think you followed the conversation at all 🙂 I wasn't giving my opinion about what LST means. I was just saying an LST doesn't need to be "pegged" to its underlying. So that term doesn't really belong.

Noérole-iconHi, I saw some of your messages about that, could you detail more the issue btw please?

zorole-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:09:49 EST

The new pool tvl of morpho is not applied in lp compensation. So the apy is marked as 74%. The rewards of usd0++ apply to the new pool, while the tvl summation of usd0/usd0++ still seems to be in the old pool. The reward of lp should come from tvl of curve + new pool of morpho. However, it seems to be calculated as cruve + old pool at the moment. There is an omission of new pool.

zorole-iconYes, I think there is a contract missing for the new morpho.

Noérole-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:08:56 EST

Hi, I saw some of your messages about that, could you detail more the issue btw please?

0xMTrole-iconGM to you too sir. Yes the revenue sharing APY in USDO

Noérole-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:08:25 EST

As per the website: > Get USUALx now and be ready for the upcoming epoch starting Jan 13th (00:00 UTC+0). To qualify, you must hold USUALx in your wallet for the entire epoch (7 days), with your position rewards calculated on an average time-weighted basis over the epoch. Also: > Minimum projected rewards are calculated based on your share of the total USUALx supply relative to the total rewards pool distributed monthly. Rewards will be distributed on a weekly epoch. Meaning, the amount displayed right now (XXX/5M) is your share of the total rewards for the month. But, it is distributed weekly! Is that clear?

David Brole-iconWhy did I only get the curve pool from the lp pool reward? I migrated morpho.

zorole-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:08:22 EST

Yes, I think there is a contract missing for the new morpho.

Nezrole-iconLol sure. I been doing since 2018 full time, average 43% APY between 2018-2024 incl bear and bull incl staking like SOL

BingChillingrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:07:13 EST

pretty sure eth funding rate was negative when $800

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Noérole-iconGm sir, are you talking about the APY in USD0 for USUALx (revenue-sharing)?

David Brole-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:06:53 EST

Why did I only get the curve pool from the lp pool reward? I migrated morpho.

0xMTrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:06:03 EST

GM to you too sir. Yes the revenue sharing APY in USDO

0xMTrole-icon@Noé the reward is being distributed now. Is this the amount to be distributed each week or would it be different?

Noérole-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:05:18 EST

Gm sir, are you talking about the APY in USD0 for USUALx (revenue-sharing)?

0xMTrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:04:42 EST

@Noé the reward is being distributed now. Is this the amount to be distributed each week or would it be different?

angolibatarole-icontmr USUALx revenue will turn on right sir? Also we're look forward about usd0++ to usd0 peg 1:1 with USUAL's fine

Noérole-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:02:54 EST

Hi, yes, the weekly epoch for revenue sharing is starting tomorrow!

Noérole-iconProbably related to # 📣ㆍannouncements - the DAO liquidating and covering bad debt

angolibatarole-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:02:04 EST

tmr USUALx revenue will turn on right sir? Also we're look forward about usd0++ to usd0 peg 1:1 with USUAL's fine

KubzThe14Throle-icon

01/12/2025 at 13:00:22 EST

@anyone, what s the conversion rate for USD0 to Usual? i cant get the simulation on the app page 😦

Nezrole-iconLol sure. I been doing since 2018 full time, average 43% APY between 2018-2024 incl bear and bull incl staking like SOL

BingChillingrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 12:56:52 EST

Yeah einstein you farming the best rate everytime. Stablecoin need to peg to only one coin. Usde peg by eth fundingrate. Did you farm eth funding rate in bear??

BRNDNrole-iconI just seen a tweet that shows you guys converted 3.7m USD0++ to 3.7m USD0 when it shouldve been 3.4mill. 21hours ago. Im not fudding (usual staked) but i genuinely would like to hear if theres a reason that happened that way. Cheers.

Noérole-icon

01/12/2025 at 12:53:25 EST

Probably related to # 📣ㆍannouncements - the DAO liquidating and covering bad debt

CrypTom ∞ ⧖role-iconHi guy's, I wondered if with the upcoming fee switch, an automatic recompound of the $USD0 obtained to $USUALx will be made available. I'd rather receive $USUALx immediately every week so it automatically compounds instead of paying fees on Ethereum and having to do it myself + missing one week of rewards on my freshly earned rewards

BRNDNrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 12:53:20 EST

Great idea!

BingChillingrole-iconFunding rate not even attractive even worse in bear. Thats the reason ethena will switch to build blackrock yield.

Nezrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 12:53:16 EST

Lol sure. I been doing since 2018 full time, average 43% APY between 2018-2024 incl bear and bull incl staking like SOL

BRNDNrole-iconI just seen a tweet that shows you guys converted 3.7m USD0++ to 3.7m USD0 when it shouldve been 3.4mill. 21hours ago. Im not fudding (usual staked) but i genuinely would like to hear if theres a reason that happened that way. Cheers.

ekosonerole-icon

01/12/2025 at 12:53:07 EST

You thought there would be no one benefitting from this situation??

Noérole-iconHi, this could be a feature implemented later on, indeed - we've thought about it and I'll emphasize the desire for it

CrypTom ∞ ⧖role-icon

01/12/2025 at 12:52:52 EST

Thanks a lot Noé, could really be useful and save us fees !

BRNDNrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 12:52:12 EST

I just seen a tweet that shows you guys converted 3.7m USD0++ to 3.7m USD0 when it shouldve been 3.4mill. 21hours ago. Im not fudding (usual staked) but i genuinely would like to hear if theres a reason that happened that way. Cheers.

Gothicowiecrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 12:51:37 EST

I dont have binance 3web wallet ... why?

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CrypTom ∞ ⧖role-iconHi guy's, I wondered if with the upcoming fee switch, an automatic recompound of the $USD0 obtained to $USUALx will be made available. I'd rather receive $USUALx immediately every week so it automatically compounds instead of paying fees on Ethereum and having to do it myself + missing one week of rewards on my freshly earned rewards

Noérole-icon

01/12/2025 at 12:51:11 EST

Hi, this could be a feature implemented later on, indeed - we've thought about it and I'll emphasize the desire for it

BRNDNrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 12:51:06 EST

Hi @Noé

CrypTom ∞ ⧖role-icon

01/12/2025 at 12:49:58 EST

Hi guy's, I wondered if with the upcoming fee switch, an automatic recompound of the $USD0 obtained to $USUALx will be made available. I'd rather receive $USUALx immediately every week so it automatically compounds instead of paying fees on Ethereum and having to do it myself + missing one week of rewards on my freshly earned rewards

Nezrole-iconIndeed, maybe can also do funding rates. But this getting saturated now.

BingChillingrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 12:43:14 EST

Funding rate not even attractive even worse in bear. Thats the reason ethena will switch to build blackrock yield.

Nezrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 12:18:43 EST

Indeed, maybe can also do funding rates. But this getting saturated now.

famousfxckrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 12:17:15 EST

This is the CEO of Usual. He is an ex-politician that completely pivoted to Web3. We are not bullish enough. Believe in something.

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Nezrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 12:17:13 EST

Earnings multiples go up, meaning USUAL token could get more value. Same as stocks. Also, funding fees usually take off (at least in the past), so stables that do funding fees like USR and sUSDe would benefit the most (especially bond yield being low). But this time might be different, we have risk on bull run in high interest rate environment for last 12+ months

Nezrole-iconWill be interesting to see what happens if rates go back to <1%. So many new stables launching that track bond yield ONLY. Practically, they will become useless. USUAL has bit more going on though.

Cortinarole-icon

01/12/2025 at 12:17:13 EST

Yah, this is a good reason for having ETH0 and others on the roadmap. So in low interest rate environment stablecoin business earning less but other product lines presumably doing well.

12:14:01

Yah right now USUAL star controls governance which is all team and investors. Which makes sense because you can't have Usualx control governance until it gets distributed broadly.

Cortinarole-iconFundamentally stablecoin businesses aren't as valuable in low interest rate environments because they don't earn as much. But earnings multiples go up in low interest rate environments so its hard to say.

Nezrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 12:14:00 EST

Will be interesting to see what happens if rates go back to <1%. So many new stables launching that track bond yield ONLY. Practically, they will become useless. USUAL has bit more going on though.

12:12:17

Makes sense, we do give yield now to DAO which is basically a team. Its all very centralized and have to trust the team, kinda like Ethena. They claim it's all decentralized, which is not true.

Cortinarole-icon

01/12/2025 at 12:12:16 EST

Fundamentally stablecoin businesses aren't as valuable in low interest rate environments because they don't earn as much. But earnings multiples go up in low interest rate environments so its hard to say.

Nezrole-iconIf its short term bonds, its very volatile. If FED cuts rates 0.5% is USD0++ floor going to increase by approx 2%? Who manages that, is it automatic

Cortinarole-icon

01/12/2025 at 12:09:46 EST

If fed cuts rates, DAO prob willing to buy back USD0++ at a higher price because their projected future yield is lower. That's why the floor price exists. USD0++ holder is effectively giving DAO the future yield now instead of over time.

Cortinarole-iconProtocol doesn't own any 4 year bonds. They only own short term treasuries which all can be sold for $1. USD0++ holders are the ones that own a 4 year bond plus rights to USUAL emissions. Which I think should be trading at $1 but that's an opinion.

Nezrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 12:06:41 EST

If its short term bonds, its very volatile. If FED cuts rates 0.5% is USD0++ floor going to increase by approx 2%? Who manages that, is it automatic

Nezrole-iconCan anyone actually swap huge amounts (like 10mln) USD0 to USDC 1:1 instantly without routing thought the secondary market? Cannot simulate without having 10mln lol

famousfxckrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 12:04:44 EST

Yes, anyone can redeem USD0 for 1$ if you are KYC and 100K$ minimum.

Cortinarole-iconProtocol doesn't own any 4 year bonds. They only own short term treasuries which all can be sold for $1. USD0++ holders are the ones that own a 4 year bond plus rights to USUAL emissions. Which I think should be trading at $1 but that's an opinion.

ipostolrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 12:04:43 EST

Thanks, because there is no clear information about how USUAL will sell short bonds to keep USD0++ USD0 price .87 and 1

piscorole-icon

01/12/2025 at 12:04:14 EST

Next week usd0++ will be able to claim by 1:1?

Usualrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 12:01:58 EST

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- Always check that someone trying to help you is part of the team (verify his roles). - No team member will DM you or ask for you to send him a DM. - No team member will ask you to click on a link for assistance. - To avoid any scam attempts, always ask for help through # 📩ㆍsupport-contact

Nezrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 12:01:43 EST

Can anyone actually swap huge amounts (like 10mln) USD0 to USDC 1:1 instantly without routing thought the secondary market? Cannot simulate without having 10mln lol

11:59:23

TVL and collateral drops yes. As they have to sell USYC to USD to give to you right? I actually don't know, who can redeem to real world asset? Institutions only? Users like us would have to swap on market. Peg might remain 0.99 or 0.98 for a while until institutions arb it

ipostolrole-iconHello, I have one question: If something like a bank run happens now and users withdraw 1kkk USD0++ to regular USD0, the second market will instantly drop to 0.87. From where will USUAL take money to return 870kk USD0 if they are frozen in bonds? Will they start to sell 4-year bonds on the second market to unfroze money?

Cortinarole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:58:56 EST

Protocol doesn't own any 4 year bonds. They only own short term treasuries which all can be sold for $1. USD0++ holders are the ones that own a 4 year bond plus rights to USUAL emissions. Which I think should be trading at $1 but that's an opinion.

Cortinarole-iconThey gave you USUAL in exchange for the yield on your 4-year bond. That USUAL allows you to earn the yield you gave up plus all future earnings of the protocol. You can buy or sell any of these assets whenever you want at whatever someone is willing to pay you for them. Don't see how anyone stole anything.

LaIslaBonitarole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:58:42 EST

i bought usd0++ at the price 1$ on the curve, and put in to the pendle, now i have 6% loss

LaIslaBonitarole-iconso they just stole some of my money, and i should hold their tokens 6+ months to just return my money?

Cortinarole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:56:40 EST

They gave you USUAL in exchange for the yield on your 4-year bond. That USUAL allows you to earn the yield you gave up plus all future earnings of the protocol. You can buy or sell any of these assets whenever you want at whatever someone is willing to pay you for them. Don't see how anyone stole anything.

Nezrole-iconWell 870kk dump would be on the market? Meaning someone bought that 870kk. So TVL would not decrease. Unless market participants who bought will swap via Usual (not market) for 0.87$ for arbitrage. Then TVL go down

ipostolrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:54:40 EST

Yes, I mean current holders will convert to regular usd to get liquidity right now if project trust or anything will push that

ipostolrole-iconYes, but TVL, in that case, will go down, and only the treasury will grow?

Nezrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:53:37 EST

Well 870kk dump would be on the market? Meaning someone bought that 870kk. So TVL would not decrease. Unless market participants who bought will swap via Usual (not market) for 0.87$ for arbitrage. Then TVL go down

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01/12/2025 at 11:53:18 EST

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CBB0FErole-iconmy pending rewards balance has barely changed over the last few days, what's going on? @Noé

famousfxckrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:53:08 EST

Maybe it has something to do with the APY declining 3% recently (due drop in TVL). I asked the team and there shouldn’t be any problems with that.

CBB0FErole-iconmy pending rewards balance has barely changed over the last few days, what's going on? @Noé

Profehrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:52:52 EST

I thought you hated USUAL little baby

ipostolrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:51:43 EST

Yes, but TVL, in that case, will go down, and only the treasury will grow?

ipostolrole-iconHello, I have one question: If something like a bank run happens now and users withdraw 1kkk USD0++ to regular USD0, the second market will instantly drop to 0.87. From where will USUAL take money to return 870kk USD0 if they are frozen in bonds? Will they start to sell 4-year bonds on the second market to unfroze money?

Nezrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:50:34 EST

If it drops below 0.87$ team will open 1 to 0.87 swap (they sell you the bond at face value) where anyone can swap. Arbitrage and market will balance it back to 0.87 or above.

ekosonerole-icon870k USD0 will not make TVL drop by 70%, I dunno what you mean exactly

ipostolrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:50:18 EST

870kk => 870 000 000

ipostolrole-iconin that it possible to withdraw 870kk usd0 and TVL will drops at 70% in that case, and 130kk will be moved to treasure like haircut

ekosonerole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:49:41 EST

870k USD0 will not make TVL drop by 70%, I dunno what you mean exactly

ekosonerole-iconThey are not frozen in bonds, team likes to sell to you now that you bought 4-year "zero coupon bonds" and that's why USD0++ trades at a discount, but there's backing in the form of USYC which is redeemable for USDC or PYUSD on Hashnote website

ipostolrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:48:19 EST

in that it possible to withdraw 870kk usd0 and TVL will drops at 70% in that case, and 130kk will be moved to treasure like haircut

ipostolrole-iconHello, I have one question: If something like a bank run happens now and users withdraw 1kkk USD0++ to regular USD0, the second market will instantly drop to 0.87. From where will USUAL take money to return 870kk USD0 if they are frozen in bonds? Will they start to sell 4-year bonds on the second market to unfroze money?

ekosonerole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:46:13 EST

They are not frozen in bonds, team likes to sell to you now that you bought 4-year "zero coupon bonds" and that's why USD0++ trades at a discount, but there's backing in the form of USYC which is redeemable for USDC or PYUSD on Hashnote website

Profehrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:45:25 EST

fee switch is paid in which currency?

ipostolrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:41:34 EST

Hello, I have one question: If something like a bank run happens now and users withdraw 1kkk USD0++ to regular USD0, the second market will instantly drop to 0.87. From where will USUAL take money to return 870kk USD0 if they are frozen in bonds? Will they start to sell 4-year bonds on the second market to unfroze money?

CBB0FErole-iconmy pending rewards balance has barely changed over the last few days, what's going on? @Noé

famousfxckrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:33:20 EST

My friend

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CBB0FErole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:32:54 EST

my pending rewards balance has barely changed over the last few days, what's going on? @Noé

generalmasangorole-iconI first did a mistake of transferring my Eth from Binance to wallet visa BEP20 bnb smart chain and i had to bridge the Eth to ERC20 which is expensive

Gabeerole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:32:07 EST

Yes because Binance is expensive. Kraken or coinbase fees are less expensive when you withdraw. Binance is misleading users by having them use their own bsc blockchain, wallet etc

Thomasrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:31:35 EST

update your wallet portfolio and try again

Yt:Anteiku980role-iconI am not usually charged more than 7€.

generalmasangorole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:29:54 EST

I first did a mistake of transferring my Eth from Binance to wallet visa BEP20 bnb smart chain and i had to bridge the Eth to ERC20 which is expensive

Yt:Anteiku980role-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:29:27 EST

There are many scammers so be careful

Gabeerole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:27:44 EST

@Noé @Mr. Lin this is a scammer or ad

Yt:Anteiku980role-iconI am not usually charged more than 7€.

generalmasangorole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:24:59 EST

Did you check if your Eth is on ERC-20 network because that's the network which is used on fees

LaIslaBonitarole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:24:02 EST

so they just stole some of my money, and i should hold their tokens 6+ months to just return my money?

generalmasangorole-iconCheck the network in which your Eth is because last time i transfered 458 usual i was charged $20 worth of Eth and it was during offpeak hours

Yt:Anteiku980role-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:20:03 EST

I am not usually charged more than 7€.

generalmasangorole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:19:22 EST

Check the network in which your Eth is because last time i transfered 458 usual i was charged $20 worth of Eth and it was during offpeak hours

Talalrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:19:00 EST

Will the unstaking fees for usualx and usd0++ distribute instantly to usualx or it adds up to treaury ?

fredchan17999role-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:17:31 EST

Can u click on ETH in your wallet, then see which network it is on? Note: dont show us your wallet address

hawk_is_backrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:17:06 EST

quick question, does anybody knows what happens if change the leverage from 2x to 1x mid operation on binance, while on loss? (cross mode)

Kixrole-iconThat's just your wallet mate, where's the error message?

Agosto.wirlrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:15:30 EST

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generalmasangorole-iconIn the process they will tell you how much eth is needed, and eth fees are very expensive at certain times

Yt:Anteiku980role-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:15:28 EST

I just put 30 usual in stake and they charged me a 2.7 fee.

Agosto.wirlrole-iconI have 25 dollars of ETH in my Web3, but I keep getting the notification that I don't have enough ETh

generalmasangorole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:14:41 EST

In the process they will tell you how much eth is needed, and eth fees are very expensive at certain times

Kixrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:13:55 EST

That's just your wallet mate, where's the error message?

Yt:Anteiku980role-iconCan you send a screenshot of the web3?

Agosto.wirlrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:13:29 EST

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Yt:Anteiku980role-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:13:13 EST

There are errors but when making the signature, it does not detect it, but there is usually no error in paying for gas in any currency.

11:12:08

Can you send a screenshot of the web3?

Yt:Anteiku980role-iconYou have to put eth on the web3 as well

Agosto.wirlrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:11:21 EST

I have 25 dollars of ETH in my Web3, but I keep getting the notification that I don't have enough ETh

Yt:Anteiku980role-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:09:02 EST

You have to put eth on the web3 as well

Agosto.wirlrole-iconmy usual ones are already in the Web3 wallet

Yt:Anteiku980role-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:07:58 EST

And ETH?

Yt:Anteiku980role-iconYou must move it to web3 , otherwise, you can't do

Agosto.wirlrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:07:23 EST

my usual ones are already in the Web3 wallet

Agosto.wirlrole-iconI need help to convert my usual to usualx, it asks me for ETH, but I already have ETH exactly 25 dollars, how much more should I have for the transaction to take place? I don't know what else to do, I attach evidence

Yt:Anteiku980role-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:04:53 EST

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Agosto.wirlrole-iconI need help to convert my usual to usualx, it asks me for ETH, but I already have ETH exactly 25 dollars, how much more should I have for the transaction to take place? I don't know what else to do, I attach evidence

fredchan17999role-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:03:21 EST

Plz check my message some hours ago on “speculation” channel

Agosto.wirlrole-iconI need help to convert my usual to usualx, it asks me for ETH, but I already have ETH exactly 25 dollars, how much more should I have for the transaction to take place? I don't know what else to do, I attach evidence

Yt:Anteiku980role-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:02:19 EST

You must move it to web3 , otherwise, you can't do

Agosto.wirlrole-iconI need help to convert my usual to usualx, it asks me for ETH, but I already have ETH exactly 25 dollars, how much more should I have for the transaction to take place? I don't know what else to do, I attach evidence

Usualrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:00:53 EST

⚠️ Always be careful

- Always check that someone trying to help you is part of the team (verify his roles). - No team member will DM you or ask for you to send him a DM. - No team member will ask you to click on a link for assistance. - To avoid any scam attempts, always ask for help through # 📩ㆍsupport-contact

Agosto.wirlrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 11:00:52 EST

I need help to convert my usual to usualx, it asks me for ETH, but I already have ETH exactly 25 dollars, how much more should I have for the transaction to take place? I don't know what else to do, I attach evidence

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famousfxckrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 10:58:16 EST

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kobe.herole-icon

01/12/2025 at 10:51:21 EST

There is 1.5B usd0++ which means 1.5B usdc to USYC,so 13% value (almost 200M) locked for four years due to the close of 1:1 redempiton function without any buffer period。This is not the problem of WP just the thing of communication and no respect to the USD0++ TVL。Q1 is not the excuse。

truthbeautyjusticerole-icon

01/12/2025 at 10:49:02 EST

I dont think this applied to pendle posititions, but I have pendle LP so im in same boat.

Cortinarole-iconUSD0++ is a 4 year bond backed by short term treasuries. So after 4 years it will trade 1:1. Between now and then it will move closer and closer to $1 each day. This is how bonds work. Your future yield is constantly decreasing and your principal is constantly increasing. But what is different in the case of USD0++ compared to a traditional bond is that there is another very important factor/revenue stream which is USUAL rewards. Anyone who says fair value of USD0++ is .87 is basically saying USUAL rewards are worthless. Which obviously isn't true. Because if I hold USD0++, every day I get USUAL rewards. That's why it would not be irrational for USD0++ to trade back to $1. I expect this will happen soon but could be wrong. Everyone saying the team knew that USD0++ would trade to .87 is saying the team knew the market would be irrational.

0xportsrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 10:47:05 EST

but if it moves closer to 1 by time, why was ist at 1$ before the depeg? or is the true worth if you want to trade it back (idk like 0,90 rn?) not visible on the normal chart? you mean by future yield decreasing that the rewards in usual will theoratically decrease with each day? or what do you mean by future yield? I mean the team could have expected this outcome bc who is waitiung 4 years to get out of a position? whales will just use the market

Agosto.wirlrole-iconHola, algún hispanohablante que me ayude con mi problema, lo que sucede es que no puedo pasar mis usual a usualx, estoy usando la WEB3 DE binance, me pide que para hacer la transacción necesito ETH para pagar el gas, pero 25 dolares en ETH y aun así no me deja intercambiarlos, adjunto imágenes

Cortinarole-icon

01/12/2025 at 10:46:50 EST

Creo que activarán Base o Arbitrum en los próximos meses. Podría ser bueno esperar si el gas Ethereum es demasiado alto

Usualrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 10:46:47 EST

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tradtariq has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

VaeVictisrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 10:46:13 EST

is this all right or it ui bug?

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01/12/2025 at 10:44:30 EST

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kobe.herole-icon

01/12/2025 at 10:43:55 EST

you know there is a different that the PAR can redeem 1usdo++=1usd0 at any time ,but users deposit 1usd0=1usd0++=0.87usd, even the value of usdo++ is increase gradually, but it means that the people who owned usd0++ should get usual which equal to 13% of it's principle then they starting get revenue. on the other side to team took the usdc which user deposit to buy usyc as collecteral and get over night repo interests to pay to the usualx holders。The key point is why I should give 0.13C out and wait for it back for four years?So the buring rate is essential important, hope the team could make sense。

Agosto.wirlrole-icon

01/12/2025 at 10:43:07 EST

Hola, algún hispanohablante que me ayude con mi problema, lo que sucede es que no puedo pasar mis usual a usualx, estoy usando la WEB3 DE binance, me pide que para hacer la transacción necesito ETH para pagar el gas, pero 25 dolares en ETH y aun así no me deja intercambiarlos, adjunto imágenes

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Cortinarole-icon

01/12/2025 at 10:42:54 EST

The big picture challenge for USUAL right now is that TVL can't grow while USD0++ remains under $1. Because new money coming in purchases USD0++ on the open market rather than minting new USD0++ which is what increases TVL. As USD0++ price increases towards $1, it will attract sellers who are more focused on the short term. There are people who might be waiting for .96 or .97 or .98 etc. to get out of USD0++. We need long term inflows to outweigh short term outflows which will take some time.

Cortinarole-icon

01/12/2025 at 10:36:16 EST

USD0++ is a 4 year bond backed by short term treasuries. So after 4 years it will trade 1:1. Between now and then it will move closer and closer to $1 each day. This is how bonds work. Your future yield is constantly decreasing and your principal is constantly increasing. But what is different in the case of USD0++ compared to a traditional bond is that there is another very important factor/revenue stream which is USUAL rewards. Anyone who says fair value of USD0++ is .87 is basically saying USUAL rewards are worthless. Which obviously isn't true. Because if I hold USD0++, every day I get USUAL rewards. That's why it would not be irrational for USD0++ to trade back to $1. I expect this will happen soon but could be wrong. Everyone saying the team knew that USD0++ would trade to .87 is saying the team knew the market would be irrational.

fredchan17999role-icon

01/12/2025 at 10:35:53 EST

The mechanism is that USUALX acts as a vault share, if you want to increase your USUALX position, you need to buy and stake more USUAL. A bit similar as buying a company stock/shares, if it helps you understand more easily