Luna 2.0

depeg

got new haircut

This has never happened before and here it is again

seems like thats what the market price is too so it seems accounted for

hey whats happened to USD0++?

Well, I think the current situation is market equilibrium. It is the result of people who do not even know what they are investing in.

1:1 lmaooooo

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If you want to continue in the long term, the current approach is very damaging to the project's credibility.Indeed, this is not good market communication. Sudden price adjustments and unclear rules about burn requirements can significantly damage: 1.User trust 2.Protocol credibility 3.Long-term sustainability When making major changes that affect user assets, clear communication and reasonable transition periods are crucial. The current approach may save short-term problems but risks causing longer-lasting damage to the community's confidence.

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so current price is fair market price with exit

😫 Losing 13% is like losing my Lambo

Manually 😂

ye it's more by my calcs it's around 0.92

doesnt matter if APR is through the roof

depeg? xD

1 week notice or even 1 day notice is a must in major things like this

Yes, and it could be less than 6 months worth, that's the maximum

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I don't think so, eventually market will find equilibrium but major things like changing floor price must be communicated early. Not even 1 day notice means tricking users

You run when you sense something is off.

Na they lost their principal value

but my point is next week we can pay the 6 months of usual that you could have recieved and cashout usd0++ to usd0 just with that fine as a loss right?

the APY will be insane once this "repeg"

Bro it aint gonna happen because theres a treasury but i expect usual price go down some more

rug

future of france

USDO++/USD0 lpers are printing 🙂

It's effectively up to 6 months worth of usual you would receive. So not necessarily 2%

Yess they did manually 😂

we need answers not rugs please, my rent money is in usd0++

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Now usdo++ holder's will pray for a death spiral so that they can buy usual at 0 and redeem their usd

which 1.9 you clown

Fook berachain

This aint gonna happen coz theres a treasury

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everyone ping @Adli to wake him up

usual price from 1.9 to 0.6 😭

did you just depeg yourself?

i back myself

You got fooked

First, withdraw the official redemption of 15,000, and do not open the redemption mechanism of burning usual. This is like pulling out the carpet.

I mean for early redemption with a fine

very aware of it

You know. Luna backers?

buy it up all then

study GSR 🙂

No you have to wait for 160 days

Ok yeah it just seems like there was 1:1 redemption on what is essentially a bond was just causing a loss somewhere else. And now USD0++ trades like a bond instead it is priced at a market rate. Doesn't seem really catastrophic

Then everyone will leave, USUAL will be zero, and only the person who dumped USUAL at $1.6 will be the winner.

that's how vc works. You invest in a lot of things, many of them fail

so we cant swap usdo arb anymore?

I deposited USDC into bera vault , Can i please take back my UsDC

guys, Kraken & GSR are invested in usual. Touch some grass, things will work out.

so bascially, next week you can redeem usd0++ for usd0 1:1 with a 2% fee which is about 6months of the 4 years yield?

How long do you think the high interest rates will last? Where do you think the yield comes from? LMAO

I have detailed post on death spiral topic in #speculation channel

chad will be buying USUAL here and laugh at you later

Of course, but can you at least relate this to the team? We want team to revert the decisions by allowing us to give 1 week window to exit. Or at least restore peg to 0.99 for 1 week.

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Yes, 0.975

what happened to liquid for trading on arb

so buy usual now ig?

Is there an AMA or X spaces soon? This is very bad. Where's @Noé

think u should leave a spread cuz it may not be profitable to arb at 0.98

Thats their right

https://x.com/adlitb/status/1877582736245875113?s=46

Adli.eth TAKKAL ₿ATAILLΞ 🦝🔮 (@AdliTB) on X

@GabeRabello @HadickM Because if people are leaving the protocol on a 1:1 with USD0\+\+ at any time it's mean that they get USUAL tokens that dilute others while diminishing the future revenues of the DAO\. So it's make the intrinsic value of USUAL lower and can create a death spiral\. \(token price goes

Twitter • 01/10/2025 00:06:22 EST

They'd like less people to exit quickly, so those who tries to exit early will profit those who holds it long term

If T value decreases, amount of USUAL you should return decreases and USD0++ value increases.

ok fake account

0.98 would be correct

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you talk like you have 1 million in usd0++

Check hashnote dashboard. It shows how much USD was put in

rugged bros it is what it is, i prefer getting rugged on food farms

This is wrong though, they're backed by $1 worth of usyc and m

this is chat is full of mids

Specifically, the price floor establishes a discounted redemption rate, where users receive less USD0 per USD0++ redeemed. The difference between the standard redemption value and the discounted price is directed to the treasury as a fee, supporting the protocol’s sustainability.

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ok so true market price would be 0.97 then

GM ser - I can't explain the timing of our team's decision, but I suspect it might relate to their prediction on users will just dump it regardless if there is a one-week notice of not...

ok spammer, middle iq investor

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Stop spamming bro

USD0++ is a fraud. I can explain. USD0++ sold at $1 on the protocol dashboard. It could also be redeemed for $1 until today. They were supposed to take $1 of stablecoins they received and buy $1 of 4 year maturity bonds with it. They didn't. They brought $0.87 worth of bonds and pocketed the rest. $0.13 goes into the team pocket. So $1 of USD0++ is backed by $0.87 of bonds, which will become $1 after 4 years. USD0 isn't backed by $1 worth of bonds, it is backed by $1 in future value in 4 years, not present value. Now we are expected to wait 4 years for our repeg? Now the big question is, where did the $0.13 go?

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They wants their money grow fast without any risk LOL even when they put into smt they dđin’t understand

It’s absolutely disgusting. It will keep depegging for sure, and the biggest issue is the complete loss of faith.

Then probably it will be around 2%

There's a simple solution. Set T value to 30 instead of 180. This is the only way to maintain the peg. Team should really do something. Even though they knew that so many people would lose millions of dollars in an instant, I don't think the team is stupid enough to believe they could safely travel around the world and attent conferences after making such an intentionally irresponsible announcement.

Nope, it's for usd0++

people call everyone scam so fast these days, it's not as simple

Yes just read it for yourself

It says 1:1 redemptions when burning usual, does it specify how much anywhere token wise? Thinking for PTs

Well it is one week notice, so people who miss the notice will stay locked in the protocol

Doesn't the early redemption rate work only for UsualX and not USD0++?

If you have to redeem early (i.e. before 6 months), basically yes

So you’re saying that it will only charge a penalty of 6 months’ worth of fees (bond interest)?

I believe the decision made by the Usual team lacks transparency and was poorly executed, but it is not a scam.

So we might have to redeem at a loss ?

Usdo++ holder can giga nuke USUAL, then buy USAL back at cheap price and redeem their usd0++. Hoes this idea?

Whitepaper..it's been there forever

What does this come from?

Middle IQ Investor - yes we can see that

If they will?? How thy are going to make money?

https://x.com/FinGeekCo/status/1877590647441420595

Finance Geek 🦇🔊 (@FinGeekCo) on X

USD0\+\+ is a fraud\. I can explain\. 1/ USD0\+\+ sold at $1 on the protocol dashboard\. It could also be redeemed for $1 until today\. They were supposed to take $1 of stablecoins they received and buy $1 of 4 year maturity bonds with it\.

Twitter • 01/10/2025 00:37:48 EST

Agree. Bad delivery. Watafak

It’s easily solvable on their end, just curious if they will

Nah, just the usual distribution rate, current outflow rate, and a target outflow rate which isn't known yet

The rate of 0.87 is unacceptable. Have you considered the community's feelings?

@Mr. Lin hey, why usual team doesn't give 1 week notice before changing floor price. I think things like this must be communicated to users before team does this. Can you change it to before for 1 week?

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exit before audit

That's the early redemption rate, or 0-6 months of the usual rewards as a fee once that's live next week

It dosent depend on price?

The rate of 0.87 is unacceptable

Next week

If we do have revenue I guess we can request a public audit to make sure that the community feel safe, no?

in 3 years at this rate

but why trade at 0.87, they're buying 1:1 bonds

When will the new redemption method be enabled?

hold this poop during bull market lmaooooo

Reasonable argument

Nah, max 6 months interest. Just read the whitepaper lol

I hope this usual drama over soon If they come out of it i wil buy at low prices

get ready... in France are 6:36 am... for get banned

Sick theory

so all usd0++ holders are basically forced to hold the 4 year wait if they wanna bear no losses

Can someone explain why this statement isn’t true..?

juicy yields from pussies

imagine this goes to stakers 🙂

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good job bro now put it back so i can exit ty!!

Muslims dont do future i can understand your frustration

USD0++ is a fraud. I can explain. USD0++ sold at $1 on the protocol dashboard. It could also be redeemed for $1 until today. They were supposed to take $1 of stablecoins they received and buy $1 of 4 year maturity bonds with it. They didn't. They brought $0.87 worth of bonds and pocketed the rest. $0.13 goes into the team pocket.

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Idk about meant to, it's expected it would trade under a dollar without 1:1 early redemptions without fee, and that's something I've mentioned here well before today.

probably a sign you have none

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Consider myself very lucky- I remove 80 % of my usd0+++ position when the USDT fiesta happened

Lol i dont do futures

always avoid french teams lmaooooo

But wasn't it mean tot be redeemable over the secondary market at 1:1 anytime? It's not possible anymore because of the depeg

french?????

how is your usual short doing brother

is true, is you OWN hard earn money

Huh? I thought they are French..?

It is

Usd0 can be redeemed immediately yes, usd0++ in 4 years or early with a fee

what happened bro? we got haircut?

not true

Trust noone When it comes to crypto

So for 1 USD I deposit they buy 1 USD of collateral. Am I able yo redeem at 1:1 as well..?

if I have a pendle position open, how can I close it to get the original capital back withouit waiting the 4 years maturity period, ithought usd0++ and usd0 was 1:1 anytime

I worked with the usual team personally, very nice people and I trust them

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u do u

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@CongQ i mean if we do fire sale right now we can scoop it up later at .04

Can you fud more please, my short printing. Thank you 🙏

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$1 worth of usyc+m at the moment, buidl as well at some point in the future

im so tired of reading so much bs just bc ppl dont understand on what they are investing to

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they wont let die this project easily. they are pretty aggressive overall and wants to win this stablecoin race

ust had oracles attacked while collaterals / backing was OTCd out when migrating pools, this is different

Salor will just buy it so it not go to 1

Can you fud more please, my short printing. Thank you 🙏

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only bc ppl repeat this luna nonsense and dont even understand what happened to luna, there is nothing to do with usual lol

This is definitely diff from Luna LOL plz don’t get panic

Luna operates on an algorithmic basis, this one does not. They do actually hold the money, only the staked (USD0++) version has a different floor price from USD0

What is it backed by?

yeah and BTC might go to $1, orange guy might get assassinated tmrw

its still backed by rwas so no ust situation, just an odd choice today

I sent my message in response to someone saying usd0++ is only backed by $0.87 worth of rwas, which is blatantly untrue

And people bought the dip

nothing like luna exactly

@CongQ might go to 0.04 like mantra before

theres literally nothing in this situation that is "luna-like"

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You are not trying to understand I have witnessed luna crash it started same like this one

looking at the funding rate, i guess thats the case

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i minted yesterday dumbass

Yeah nigga chain was clearly the way to go. 😢

Y'all farmed and dumped the market already too much. Now crying 😂

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french team, big rug devs go to sleep all moneygon

Not sure how that's related to my message

@CongQ fire sale?

i chose usd to zero instead of niggachain

I sold all usual

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whats wrong guys ?

i lost a decent bit here, but regardless lets just see the teams response here

Who said I’m a lady..? What are you talking about?

i make more money buying niggachain not this scam

It seems to be only a PORTION OF YOUR FARM so far. From what I read from their website announcement

exactly lol, clowns

just stay calm and wait for the team to address this

Downside bullishness of this coin is op

give my money back and i become calm, otherwise shut up nig

Lol then why they mentioned before the Airdrop that we can redeem our dollars for 1:1 lol

yup, probably lots of shorters here spreading fud

How many USUAL do we need to burn per 1 USD0++ for 1:1 redemption..?

Be calm guys 😱

Ok i know that you are a very smart lady and your trading instrument are brilliant. i hope the team fixes the situatio.

could u explain what people with PT points should do?

Each usd0++ is still backed by $1 of usyc/m0

people are just fudding themselves and shtting their pants over primary exit rate

so sell at 0.88 now is not make sense

Makes no sense to hack here. In the same boat as you. I’m just holding on to it. Yield will compensate to some extend.

WHERE TF IS THE TEAM?????

With usual redeem open say 180 day you get usd0

@CBB0FE can you touch dcf god ,he seed the protocol,maybe he can give the team some advice..

This panic can create luna like situation

What's the penalty for early unstaking feature that's due to come NEXT WEEK? [Resilience Against Volatility: Dual-path primary exits for USD0++ with 0.87 USD0 floor price via USUAL dAPP and 1:1 Early Unstaking available early next week. The Early Unstaking feature, which allows for the redemption of USD0++ for USD0 at a 1:1 ratio by burning USUAL tokens, will be available in the Dapp early next week.]

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if they advertised clearly that each usd0++ was backed by 0.87 of bonds while selling at $1 then nobody will buy, so they resorted to misleading handwaving, this is clearly fraud

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There's the other early redemption route of 0-6 months interest, but the target outflow rate for that formula isn't known yet. I guess in a week you'll know if that's better than redeeming at .87

Lost not in USUAL. But in USD0++ positions. Luckily I got 30k USUAL airdrop that I dumped. So overall not terrible. But in my mental accounting the airdrop was already money locked in. 😓

Can someone answer what people with PT usd0++ points shoudl do?

LP balance is gonna recover, its panic swapping due to the nature of people dont understand primary exit and LP

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Even if there is a lot fud but I think ratio should be 0.95 later if team really want to build this project long time

one can assume binance & kraken as investor were very aware about the mechanism

Did they remove vesting?

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It’s the future, for the team

Ok feel sorry for you. I always feel bullish on the downside about the coin simce 1.4 so i hedged so might get lower than .5 then?

Haha. Just lost 40k USD mark-to-market. And feel like I got robbed by the team. Not that easy to be chill about it. But I realize no matter what I can’t change it. DeFi is the future.. Just not like this.

Damn, ya farmed the people with vesting on their airdrop pretty well! Removing now is not even having a part of the airdrop. Well done team, well done

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what a minor detail eh?

Open a space on twitter give us solution otherwise dead spirals

Idk what you mean by why, but that mechanism has always been in the whitepaper, just not the specific early redemption price

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Luna 2.0 ?? Right

Have an ama where is the team

why was it known?

depends on their response, how effective it is and what they do tbh, we shall see

Is it death by now? Other coin is pumping. The only usual coin is dumping. Still hope left for the holder?

Goes to the treasury afaik, if you redeem at that rate

why is usd0++ trading at 0.9 my pendle pt position is at risk?

In this business you gotta be relaxed. Let me ask you something. Do you jerk off?

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Run while you can. The situation is clear—USD0++ will continue to depeg because no one will hold or buy it knowing the floor price.

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Explain to me where the 13% went?

What if too many people redeem at 0.87 and things will go worse

it's not gonna bounce now that it's worth 0.87 lol

Well this is a situation to get up for. They triggered it from France and then went to sleep? Smart.

Yeah they are in eu and sleep😅

They sleeping they are in france

team buying lambos

I wish team find a better solution for us and I don’t want this project to die

And mods / team nowhere to be seen. 👍

Im sleepy im going to sleep see you at .5

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Oh never mind i just unclick it

Can’t see how the protocol survives this unless they rectify it soon. They essentially took 13% from people minting USD0++ and happily continue to do so.

similar rwa stables have depegged and repegged and experience volatility, their response here is critical to bounce imo

whats gone

Its gone

bruh im not even on the team....

With fud continuous goes without any reasonable solution, this project will dead team will be in jail especially congq🤣

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what

@CongQ where is the speculation thread lol

wtf is happenineg with usd0++

no fa🤣

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https://x.com/OlimpioCrypto/status/1877585188210753777

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They let users mint/buy usd0\+\+ at $1 \(no discount, 1\-1 programmed\) and then magically implement a new hardcoded 0\.87 floor, effectively locking \(i\.e\., evaporating\) 13% of the principal for 1,500,000,000 USD Old docs https://t.co/o7gFOV8cN0 New docs https://t.co/4u5D26OEFh

Twitter • 01/10/2025 00:16:07 EST

clearly he doesn't and its not even in a funny way

@CongQ I’ve got a sense you’re doubling down on those bags shortly here 💰💰

You know the answer

clearly shows you people cant even fricking do a simple task as read

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This isn't true

D A O, its literally in the blog

https://x.com/OlimpioCrypto/status/1877585188210753777

olimpio (@OlimpioCrypto) on X

They let users mint/buy usd0\+\+ at $1 \(no discount, 1\-1 programmed\) and then magically implement a new hardcoded 0\.87 floor, effectively locking \(i\.e\., evaporating\) 13% of the principal for 1,500,000,000 USD Old docs https://t.co/o7gFOV8cN0 New docs https://t.co/4u5D26OEFh

Twitter • 01/10/2025 00:16:07 EST

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@CongQ

Definitely congq 🤣

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Yeah, you can redeem it if you're whitelisted with the rwa issuers (hashnote/m0)

who's getting the 13 cents if i'm redeeming today?

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Structurally, is there a way to convert USD0 to USD without USD0/USDC pool?

im overinvested....by ALOT. it is what it is.

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Sure CongQ

sure

Short term farm should know before they are haircut and willing to deposit at mint price say 0.93, with 0.93:0.93 redeem by pay 180 day reward or exit at 0.87. Short term farm should not mint at 1:1, selll at 0.93 and redeem at 0.87

Don't steal my words

sure

Wonder how the Arab guy with 5 million usdo++ coping

They added the .87 redemption price, but it was always known this was coming

Guys just reverse the chart its very bullish

I know how PT/YT works

learn how PT/YT work before talking nonsense

Everyone knows they changed the docs today

It literally called PT USD0++

was the goal of the change to pump usual?

i can't lmfao

Not just mine but everyone else's. You're defending your seed bag lol

hi chat are we buying the dip?

it was litterally 1:1 redemption guaranteed until few hours ago 🤣

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-shocked-confused-what-huh-gif-26654819

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hurt your feelings?

Usual team should open a saloon

Usdo++ holder walking with new style after haircut

PT's opponent is YT, it has nothing to do with the ecosystem

Guys guys calm down this coin is bullish in downside its absolute best potential

We would accept our fault but we want CongQ to be silent with his non-sense

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stop argue now. no team member here.it's useless

USD0++ is guarnteed 1:1 value redemption AT MATRUTIY, doesnt matter the FP is 0.4 or 0.1 now

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this guy has all his 5 digits networth in UsualX 🤣

Bond yields are paid to usualx holders

what happen with the PT-USD0++ holders bro @CongQ

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its not a sudden way lmfao, aping in here without reading a single word, the fault is COMPLETELY on you

https://tenor.com/view/panicking-gif-22262539

Imagine your brother did a monstrous crime and you still have to defend him. That's the position of CongQ today

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wtf is getting haircuted

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Short term farm should not be haircuted by such sudden way

We go to .5?

nah only the people who are still in this dogshit project

Are Pendle PT holder not getting rektd lord congq?

Just think about it. The market only experienced a small downturn, yet USD0++ has already been drained so much that it depegged. And now the floor is 0.87 USD0 for 1 USD0++? It’s bound to keep depegging. This is absolutely disgusting.

usd0++ pts would like to have a word lmfao

only free short term USUAL farming dumpers are getting rekt'd today

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from bond yields? but yeh this means u need a lock mechanism and just have linear max exit penalty of 13%

If you sold above .95 thumbs up, if you are still holding thumbs down.

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illegal securities offering ?

Haha

Sleepy Joe 🤣🤣🤣🤣

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-shocked-face-stunned-pokemon-shocked-not-shocked-omg-gif-24112152

how did the market get sold $0.87 worth of products for $1, $1 billion volume